Stanley Black & Decker Announce Opening of New U.S. Plant After Trump White House Win

a reply to: seasonal

It's a general question, hence why I didn't reply to anyone specifically. I'm noticing a narrative that I think is biased & I even linked a thread that you didn't start to reinforce my point.

In fact, my avatar explains this best.

We are the United Corporations of America. Where a financial born entity has and uses the same exact voting rights as its citizens. But, since money holds a higher motive of businesses, the affects that votes have on human connection become less relevant over time. It is so commonplace nowadays, we now have diminished the people's will to a point of uselessness to the degree that we are in turmoil as to where in the world we can maximize our profits? Seems the foundation is tweaked, and it will not allow for a sturdy structure to stand the tests of time.

Is it not clear that the money changers are deciding what's best for us all... or best for our wallets I should say? Its so far gone now, that there is no turning back to putting people first without an entire new cast of decision makers... a cast of which only human beings can vote on the policies.

a reply to: carewemust

Yea trump essentially promised them 7 million dollars in tax credits to keep 500 workers here. What a great deal. So much for that 35% tax.

a reply to: ttobban

What jobs are beneath the American worker? I think it is the pay that is offered, and can be offered because of imported help.

I see nothing wrong with someone who is down on their luck using a social safety net, that is what it is for. You should be proud of doing it yourself, hats off to you.

a reply to: conscientiousobserver

7 million dollars less for the government to donate to mexico

a reply to: conscientiousobserver

so, we`ll just borrow an extra 7 million, not giving a 7 million tax credit and spending that 7 million on the debt won`t make a dent in it and borrowing an extra 7 million is nothing compared to the 20 trillion we already owe and will never pay back.

claiming bankruptcy on 50 trillion is no better or worse than claiming bankruptcy on 20 trillion.

a reply to: Tardacus

What's really cool is we are in more debt now then after we fought WW II. All the debt but not the pesky war.

originally posted by: ttobban
a reply to: seasonal

One thing that should not be unseen is Trump's affinity for money. He also has a long history of gambling money on the chances of a high return... hence, his multiple bankruptcies. I get a deep seeded feeling that Trump values money over the human to human connection and therefore will allow for whatever brings more money into the economy. I guess my point is that Trump sees a factory on American soil as a victory, when who is doing the digging is equally important, if not more important. Even if it loses money, he will always be able to say he promoted and endorsed companies staying here.

I see migrant workers as a utility to our economy. Americans are more than happy to see the migrant workers doing jobs they feel are beneath them, but fail to see the burden that these imported workers provide to our infrastructure. And, more times then not, the work that they feel is beneath them is more the fact that Uncle Sam pays more to do nothing. There is no infrastructure costs to paying somebody to sit on the couch and collect welfare.

I went long stretches without work... and it was always because I refused to take more work for less money... I never took a penny of government assistance in my life though. I turned down the Mexican goods repair job though... since I didn't want to shift Spanish to be my primary language, and I could tell that my services were in request so as to compensate for the lacking technical knowledge of their foreign coworkers... I have zero interest in supporting a global work outreach program in my own city, thanks.

Americans happy to see migrant workers doing jobs they see as beneath them? Huh?

Americans will do ANY job and ALL jobs. From illegal jobs to legal jobs. From prostitution and porn to drug dealing and pharmaceutical to fast food and waitressing to building medical equipment and bombs to cleaning and butler services to baby sitting and education to selling second hand clothing to new designer clothing.

The few examples above prove Americans already do EVERY fricken job ANYONE can ever think of to do TO MAKE CASHOLA to make ends meet.

What is beneath us is everyone who works for crap pay is sick of the struggle to enjoy a modest life IN THIS DAY AND AGE.

Everyone needs to stick it out in THEIR COUNTRY AND WORK IT OUT instesd of migrating to another until everyone gets their #e straightened out. Until then, close the doors then later open the doors to migration because every country is great. Then everyone is happy to be globalized because every country is awesome and thriving or happy not to be because everyone is thriving. Either way at that point is great. Migration - It's like people constantly looking for a new family because they can't stand theirs. Every country can thrive - proof is seeing retarded people working, getting married and being productive and nondestructive members of the community. Proof is seeing the disabled working happily and leading productive lives. If they can do it, so can everyone else. This is ridiculous BS what's been going on for generations, everyone is over it and advanced enough in spirit to move forward now.

Uncle Sam does not pay more to do nothing because doing nothing is a LIE. Everyone does SOMETHING. This includes not rioting and engaging in unbridled civil unrest. Welfare in part is to prevent that from happening because government understands not every healthy adult citizen will be wanted by someone else as an employee or partner. No sorry, not here, go there. No sorry. Not here, go there. No sorry, not interested. Well sorry my ass because a healthy adult does not garner special privilege, maybe if one is blind, deaf, retarded, an addict, mentally ill, black, an American Indian, been raped, beat up, been in a war, in a shoot out. This is why many are choosing to live the lie to do nothing, which is actually doing SOMETHING accepting being broken down because they see victimization mode is a something that pays: admit you're mentally ill, disabled, then settle then at least get some financial needs met. The settled then sit down and shut up. There's no omph in these people to gather to riot. Zero energy when one is in sick/disabled mode. The working see that as less competition and less disturbance and as a yes, yes, you can't take it, your back hurts, why work? Helping to enable a broken system. The person with the bad back getting a check knows something is off, feels unsettled in their gut, "thinking well dam, if I can shop, drive, go out to eat, do light house work and sit in front of a computer and be on the phone I can work." But why? Because that is work already. It's capability. The problem is no one wants them. You don't. Don't lie. Then a lot of these sick people become actually afraid to get better - be healed. Because they know nobody wants them or values them healthy. Ok. Well if they stay sick they have an excuse. Hide behind it. They are getting paid to be hurt and sick and be that because people with GOOD paying jobs are not and will not and will never give up their job. These people in the great jobs when they get sick, will have to be drug away from their jobs, then paid like little kings and queens to not come back, They will cling. They WILL cling.

So good. Yay this company will add more jobs here. The employees won't leave. They will love it and thrive. How promising.

originally posted by: enlightenedservant
Wait a second. So when a company announces new jobs or factories in the US, Trump gets the credit. But when a company announces layoffs and store closings during the same time period (like this), it's not because of Trump. Is that how this works now? What kind of biased crap is this?

You do realize the stores weren't shut down due to outsourcing the jobs, they were shut down because they were losing money. There is a HUGE difference.

People who use tools will pay more for tools made here.

If you think I'm wrong, you are wrong.
I am in it every day.

It's obvious some of you have no idea what you are talking about.

I don't mean to offend, but this is my business, and some of you talk about stuff you know nothing about.

originally posted by: Tardacus
a reply to: conscientiousobserver

so, we`ll just borrow an extra 7 million, not giving a 7 million tax credit and spending that 7 million on the debt won`t make a dent in it and borrowing an extra 7 million is nothing compared to the 20 trillion we already owe and will never pay back.

claiming bankruptcy on 50 trillion is no better or worse than claiming bankruptcy on 20 trillion.

Fact:

No one can accurately count out 20 trillion in cash without using AI/computer.

No one can accurately count out 20 trillion in gold because the price of gold varies daily.

When debt reached it's first trillion, the debt itself became inaccurate and made it irrelevant to human kind because AI/computer in it's accuracy is set to erase all debt.

Please pass the chest of jewels through here and put the 1, 000 acres of fertile land with it's clean springs and lakes this way. Thanks in advance.

Fact:
We are going to make things here again.
And people will like it.

originally posted by: Vector99

originally posted by: enlightenedservant
Wait a second. So when a company announces new jobs or factories in the US, Trump gets the credit. But when a company announces layoffs and store closings during the same time period (like this), it's not because of Trump. Is that how this works now? What kind of biased crap is this?

You do realize the stores weren't shut down due to outsourcing the jobs, they were shut down because they were losing money. There is a HUGE difference.

There is nothing said about Trillions or Billions here. Not a mention about out sourcing jobs or losing money. Every thing was shut down because we lost sight of this:

My country, 'tis of thee,
Sweet land of liberty,
Of thee I sing;
Land where my fathers died,
Land of the pilgrims' pride,
From ev'ry mountainside
Let freedom ring!

My native country, thee,
Land of the noble free,
Thy name I love;
I love thy rocks and rills,
Thy woods and templed hills;
My heart with rapture thrills,
Like that above.

Let music swell the breeze,
And ring from all the trees
Sweet freedom's song;
Let mortal tongues awake;
Let all that breathe partake;
Let rocks their silence break,
The sound prolong.

Our fathers' God to Thee,
Author of liberty,
To Thee we sing.
Long may our land be bright,
With freedom's holy light,
Protect us by Thy might,
Great God our King

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O beautiful for spacious skies,
For amber waves of grain,
For purple mountain majesties
Above the fruited plain!
America! America!
God shed His grace on thee
And crown thy good with brotherhood
From sea to shining sea!

O beautiful for pilgrim feet,
Whose stern, impassioned stress
A thoroughfare for freedom beat
Across the wilderness!
America! America!
God mend thine every flaw,
Confirm thy soul in self-control,
Thy liberty in law!

O beautiful for heroes proved
In liberating strife,
Who more than self their country loved
And mercy more than life!
America! America!
May God thy gold refine,
Till all success be nobleness,
And every gain divine!

O beautiful for patriot dream
That sees beyond the years
Thine alabaster cities gleam
Undimmed by human tears!
America! America!
God shed His grace on thee
And crown thy good with brotherhood
From sea to shining sea

a reply to: seasonal

I apologize... I did misspeak by saying "jobs are beneath them"... I did intend to mean "pay is beneath them."

I agree that the safety net of welfare is a good thing. I also feel the 1% owes retribution but that's another story.

Thanks for the kind words...