DHS claims it will cost over 5 thousand dollars a foot to build wall

A Massachusetts Sheriff had an interesting proposal. There are people on both sides of the fence(pun intended) on this issue.

The United States has a long history of prison labor, with advocates of the idea saying that putting inmates to work can help them learn skills that prepare them for their return to society after completing their sentences. Opponents contend that inmates are not fairly compensated.

The biggest problem the opponents make is unfair compensation. Simple solution offer better compensation.

The part that bothers me the most is DHS cost calculation.

In response to a request by the Trump transition office, the Department of Homeland Security last month identified more than 400 miles (644 km) along the U.S.-Mexico border where new fencing could be erected, according to a document seen by Reuters. The document contained an estimate that building that section of fence would cost more than $11 billion.

What the he## are they making the fence out of? If my calculations are correct they are saying that it cost $5,208.88 per ft to build a fence! 1 mile is 5280ft times 400mi is 2,112,000ft. If you divide 11,000,000,000 by 2,112,000 you get $5,208.00. So if we combine prison labor($100.00per ft)with a more realistic cost(($100.00per ft)that is high in my book) you could build the 400 mile fence for $422,000,000. That would be a savings of over 10.5 billion.

Massachusetts sheriff offers prison inmates to build Trump's wall

So we're going back to this now?




Progress!

originally posted by: FelisOrion
So we're going back to this now?




Progress!

would you mind expounding a little?

a reply to: brutus61

I wonder if there is anyone on the planet that could show me an engineers detail of a typical cross-section wall component, including materials and fixing methods, which has been finalized by those charged with authorizing such expenditures?

How can a price be put on the wall when it hasn't even been decided what configuration, material(s), depth, height the damn thing is? Oh, that's right, I forgot, US government expenditure 101.

if Trump asked for volunteers to come help build it for free i can guarantee thousands would show up. All he would have to do is offer to feed everyone who works, give them a commemorative plaque or take a picture with them and he would have to TURN people away.

Another thing he could do is ask companies who specialize in making the materials needed for the wall available at a special rate in exchange for special status or recognition and again he would probably have to turn businesses away.

There are many ways to skin a cat here and as usual the Lefties have no imagination at all and prefer to create a completely distorted version of reality.

a reply to: tribal

Oh my my, the delusion is too real.

I would love to see the person who would do backbreaking manual labor for just a hot meal and a pictures with Donald. Show me that man, and I'll show you an emasculated one.

When the govt gets involved in building anything just multiply the real cost by 1000. I worked construction for years and I've personally seen company owners and foreman get together to figure out how to pad a bill to Uncle Sam. When they bill the govt for a "joist mounting device with external power source" they mean me with a hammer.

a reply to: brutus61

Where is their disclaimer explaining to us that this information may or may not be reliable considering the source of their source of their source?

originally posted by: FelisOrion
So we're going back to this now?




Progress!

such a fresh account and already tired of topics??

a reply to: brutus61

I still believe US presidents are selected by a very powerful group of people in the world...yes..the world... not just of the usa.

Mentioning his wish building that wall has been all part of conditioning the US citizens. Not only to monitor the discusion about it among the us citizens so arguments for building it can be adjusted but also making the people of the usa more willing to pay for it.

This wall ..if being built... was planned many years ago. If built it will not only be for keeping people out, but also for keeping people in. All that for the things to come.

originally posted by: zatara
a reply to: brutus61

I still believe US presidents are selected by a very powerful group of people in the world...yes..the world... not just of the usa.

This wall ..if being built... was planned many years ago. If built it will be not for keeping people out, but for keeping people in. All that for the things to come.

Unfortunately I am inclined to agree with you at least in part. I am not sure about it being a divine plan, but I am sure that once built corruption will cause it to be used in a negative manner.

5k$ a foot doesn't seem too bad. My yard fence was $39 a foot installed.

I don't care what it cost, build it already! Use all the free money we send to the Mexican leaches every year. Pay that to American families!!

This would be a PERFECT TIME to clear out the majority of Prisons of folks being held with non-violent crimes and/or Possession cases of illegal drugs.. Let them build the wall instead of paid labor, this way TrumpsWall™ would actually "make $$$" and isn't that why these folks get into politics™?

And I nominate the poor guy who is serving 20 years for 2 joints of Marihuana in Texas to pound the first nail.

If any Prisoner flees to Mexico let them go and when/if they ever return, stick them back in 'The Cooler'...

When/if TrumpsWall™ is complete then the jail/prison cells will have rooom for violent offenders.

Why is the rapist/murderer released early because of 'over-crowding'? Will be a question that will NOT be asked further...

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$5,000 a foot sounds about right.
Considering it costs roughly $2000 a sq ft to do a bathroom.

Certain sections will need towers and snipers that would slow thing down to a crawl you might say

a reply to: Sublimecraft

Well the Reuters article says it's 400 miles of fence at a cost of $11 billion



We can probably assume it's similar to fences already found on the border

originally posted by: Macenroe82
$5,000 a foot sounds about right.
Considering it costs roughly $2000 a sq ft to do a bathroom.

So the fence will have a toilet, shower/tub and sink every foot? Not to mention pluming and heat.

originally posted by: JimNasium

If any Prisoner flees to Mexico let them go and when/if they ever return, stick them back in 'The Cooler'...

Even better, make them build from the Mexican side so when the wall is done, we'll never see them again.

originally posted by: Chadwickus
a reply to: Sublimecraft

Well the Reuters article says it's 400 miles of fence at a cost of $11 billion

We can probably assume it's similar to fences already found on the border

Yes the article describes a fence and the one shown in the picture doesn't look like all that. Imagine the cost if they were actually quoting the cost of a wall.