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CNN: Racist Dem Strategist, 'Chicago Torture Video Not a Hate Crime'

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posted on Jan, 5 2017 @ 05:02 PM
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originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
My only beef: journalism was flayed alive.

CNN's only reason to put her on there was because the intention was for her to take an extreme position to drive outrage. Thats it. THey wanted to piss people off to try to drive viewership, to have us sit here and talk about CNN some more. Trump proved for a fact that there is no bad press. Only press.

There is no voice reporting news today. Its all "media", which isn't a synonym for "news" or "journalism".

The lady in the video, simply a useful idiot with a usefully idiotic opinion.

On the radio they call them shock jocks. We could call this the morbid media.




posted on Jan, 5 2017 @ 05:02 PM
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originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: LesMisanthrope

I've looked at some of that.

I think the point they are trying to drive home is that if the left can take any incident like this and tack it to Donald Trump as though he somehow owns it, then turnabout should be fair play. If the left wants to back up and cry unfair (something that they actually should have every right to do), then they ought to be intellectually honest enough to admit that there is a point -- if BLM doesn't own this, then Trump and Trump supporters shouldn't own everything related to a hate crime the left doesn't like because they likewise shouldn't have to.


Is it ok for anyone not inside a partisan bubble to think this is just beneath them and the rest of the country?

This kid was tortured for 24 hours. Let that sink in. Nothing can be lower than trying to score political points off of something like this.

ETA: in Christian terms, this is akin to playing dice for Jesus clothes.
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posted on Jan, 5 2017 @ 05:02 PM
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a reply to: Zimnydran

I've been thinking for a while that this is what they want. They're pushing hard at a race war one way or the other.



posted on Jan, 5 2017 @ 05:06 PM
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a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

I generally tend to agree, but at the same time, you have ladies like the one on CNN and the wider commentariot at places like HuffPo and BuzzFeed who seem to think what these four did isn't so bad, or at least isn't a hate crime.

How many of them are there and at what point do you draw the line? Taking the moral high ground doesn't work and they simply take advantage.

There are times that I get so sick and tired of being used to score cheap political points off of and that I want to toss it all back.



posted on Jan, 5 2017 @ 05:09 PM
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a reply to: ketsuko

I strongly agree.



posted on Jan, 5 2017 @ 05:16 PM
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a reply to: ketsuko

Someone somewhere thinks something? Certainly something should be done.

For the most part, I find ignoring works pretty well. If it doesn't rob them of all audience, then at least I remain blissfully unaware of their goings on. I implemented this strategy with Kanye, and it was almost overnight that the stupid things he said/did stopped making me want to punch posters of him.

Im going to trot this out again: Charlotte Iserbyte blew the whistle on the intentional dumbing down of Americans in the early 80's. The shift from merit scoring to participation scoring is an example of this. So we have 2 generations now who have been given a poor education on purpose. And the same people who helped execute that plan also helped execute plans for things like redefining the word "racism".

See my earlier post for the reasoning behind why some people say that black on white hate isn't racism. Of course there are idiots who don't see anything wrong with this, but we can't account for the 3% of our population that, statistically speaking anyway, are psychopaths.



posted on Jan, 5 2017 @ 05:18 PM
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a reply to: ketsuko

One more thing to consider:

news.usc.edu...

Read through that article. The gist is: people hold political view points in the same regions of the brain assigned to personal identity. So no one will ever change their mind during a political argument. Its ego shattering.

This is why some people justify what happened here. Because it connects to their political views, which is really another way of saying, "They are having to deny a personal attack".



posted on Jan, 5 2017 @ 05:22 PM
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well it`s officially being prosecuted as a hate crime now, so once again the liberal media has stayed true to form and remain completely out of touch with reality, American values and ideals.



posted on Jan, 5 2017 @ 05:25 PM
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Of course they would say this, they know it will TRIGGER people. The more outrage the deeper the divide, the media is following the playbook perfectly.



posted on Jan, 5 2017 @ 05:55 PM
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a reply to: ketsuko



I think the point they are trying to drive home is that if the left can take any incident like this and tack it to Donald Trump as though he somehow owns it, then turnabout should be fair play.


Fair play? At what point do we stop doing tit for tat?

I think that when something like this happens, some people stay silent because it's somehow being attributed to a group they belong to - even if that's only loosely. This happens on the left and the right. That's what I meant earlier when I said that would be a step in the right direction. Not being afraid to acknowledge what's coming from our own group even if it has nothing to do with us is how we begin to make things right again

It would be better if we all called out this sort of thing together

When Hillary said that some of Trumps supporters were deplorable - she didn't mean you. And she did say some. This is all about identity politics - and the right plays this game as much as anyone on the left

When you have actual racists saying despicable things - who also claim to be Trump supporters - and nobody says anything? Trump doesn't call them out?

See how angry everyone is at this woman featured in the OP? People hate her. This thread is full of people who hate her and hate liberals. They're all like her - right? And that's fair?



posted on Jan, 5 2017 @ 06:04 PM
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a reply to: TheBulk

Not only was this a racist hate crime, but it was also an act of terrorism. They also drew blood by cutting part of his scalp. That is mutilation against the person's will.

Does the meaning of the word terrorism fit what we see in the video above?





'F Trump, F white people',



Yes it certainly does,

Side note: On CNN trying to **** you off? That is precisely the idea. They want their civil war and the reactions from people, so anger is a must for the powers that be.



posted on Jan, 5 2017 @ 06:20 PM
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originally posted by: testingtesting
a reply to: DBCowboy

Not every leftist is saying that I lean more to the left here in the UK and I aint saying that neither are most of the left leaning members on ATS.
We get it you are as mad as many are including myself now we have to ask why they did it to stop crap like this from happening.


"F* Trump"

"F* white people"

"Say you love black people, SAY YOU LOVE BLACK PEOPLE!"

The left:

"We must investigate why they did it"



posted on Jan, 5 2017 @ 06:31 PM
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a reply to: Tardacus

I just checked the google news feed - everyone is reporting this - lead story from WashPo

So, how is it the liberal media is out of touch with reality?



posted on Jan, 5 2017 @ 06:32 PM
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originally posted by: TheBulk
First off, this woman is a former campaign manager for Bernie Sanders....

Is the media actively trying to piss me off? It seems like it. Why would CNN keep putting on this racist woman?


Cuz you watch her?

Seriously...I don't know what this woman has to say...but the whole Race thing in the USA is exhausting...nothing personal..but this OP included.

Enough already...you either are ignorant and hate black or white people or whatever or you are not...Enough crazy people stirring the pot...why give it voice, air or OPs...TURN IT OFF ALREADY..



posted on Jan, 5 2017 @ 06:35 PM
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originally posted by: Vector99
a reply to: TheBulk

cnn has these "characters" on for shock value alone, their ratings are in the tank and desperation is setting in.



posted on Jan, 5 2017 @ 06:36 PM
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posted on Jan, 5 2017 @ 08:04 PM
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originally posted by: Indigo5

originally posted by: TheBulk
First off, this woman is a former campaign manager for Bernie Sanders....

Is the media actively trying to piss me off? It seems like it. Why would CNN keep putting on this racist woman?


Cuz you watch her?

Seriously...I don't know what this woman has to say...but the whole Race thing in the USA is exhausting...nothing personal..but this OP included.

Enough already...you either are ignorant and hate black or white people or whatever or you are not...Enough crazy people stirring the pot...why give it voice, air or OPs...TURN IT OFF ALREADY..


^Now all of a sudden leftist don't want racism and racists discussed or be given attention.



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posted on Jan, 5 2017 @ 08:09 PM
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a reply to: pteridine

This.



posted on Jan, 5 2017 @ 08:10 PM
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The lady has a right to be stupid, and she is, and CNN has the right to show her stupidity.

CNN is a tabloid network, that’s their stock in trade

This ignorant woman who probably claims to be a civil rights person should be as quick to denounce black racism as she denounces white racism.


Until these so called civil rights people learn that we’ll get nowhere




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