PRESIDENTIAL FORGERY? Sheriff Joe Breaks Down Obama's Birth Certificate Legitimacy

What an idiot hrs testing a scanned image and is surprised to find layering?? Does he think hrs looking at the original since as we all know they issued thumb drives in the 60s. Wow in order to post it obviously they would scan it this would create layers because surprise that's how scanners work

a reply to: UKTruth

We?
No WE DONT KNOW ITS A FAKE.

See number 19

utminers.utep.edu...

a reply to: Sillyolme

Yes dear, because the issues are clouded with regards to what constitutes being native to regions we inhabit not just in America but also world wide.

Time people accepted the fact that we are more similar that different from one another, stopped squabbling over religious indifference or geographic origin and addressed the real issues humanity faces as a species.

Talk about clouding issues? That's exactly what this fake birth certificate garbage is all about.

a reply to: UKTruth

No they didn't. The original was not given out for examination.
It's all bull.

a reply to: UKTruth

That never happened deary sorry.

a reply to: andy06shake

1961 was the information age. We didn't record births in the family bible anymore.
I have an electronic copy of my bc which was produced for my parents to keep in 1957.

a reply to: andy06shake

This has nothing to do with being native. It has to do with nationality.
Our laws state if we're born here we American.
You are clouding the issue with talk about natives.

a reply to: andy06shake

And your whole post was one big fog machine clouding the issue.

Looking at Zullo’s press conference more closely By Dr. Conspiracy on December 29, 2016 in Birth Certificate, Debunking, Guest Essays, Mike Zullo I have one serious weakness when confronting the output from Mike Zullo. I have have an expectation that at some level it is supposed to make sense, and that Zullo doesn’t lie outright. So when Zullo says that two things look alike, I’m going to think that perhaps there is a lack of precision, not that Zullo is just making it up. We know, however, that Zullo does make things up, and does it rather audaciously. I received an email today challenging Zullo’s claims that things are the same in the Obama birth certificate and the Ah’nee certificate, similarity that is the basis for Zullo’s claim that one was manufactured using parts of the other. I’ve already observed one glaring difference in the supposedly identical images components, but this contributor goes into far more detail. So what follows is an anonymous contribution to the debunking of Mike Zullo’s last fling:

www.obamaconspiracy.org...

So the "9 points of forgery" are just more of Zullo's lies!

a reply to: Sillyolme

Depends on the definition of information age i suppose, maybe i should have said Orwellian information age.

Can you say that nationwide back in 61 all copys of any and all certificates were recorded in the same manner as your own?

Even then things get lost, destroyed, misplaced or corrupted in ways that simply could not occur given the technologies we have at our disposal today.

a reply to: Sillyolme

Whatever floats your boat i suppose. LoL

Its not like it matters for much longer. Technically the point will become moot after the 20 of next month.

a reply to: seasonal

Hey...anyone can run for Sheriff. Maybe me, maybe you too!

Why should anyone listen to one sheriff one of the 1,000's we have nationwide? I know what he has and hasnt done, but he's the last one I'd give any credence to.

Oh yeah...I forgot...on the outs and moving quickly...he has nothing else to leave behind as he sits retired on some island....seriously

originally posted by: Junkheap
I don't understand what a birth certificate in Hawaii has to do with being a Sheriff in Arizona.

Maybe because you're not a racist.

The idea behind "White Supremacy" is that only "White Men" are allowed to rule. Its about "White Power".

A non-white in power is not acceptable. All non-whites are to be constantly "put down" and "trampled upon" to ensure they never rise up and take control.

Unfortunatly, for the Sheriff, Obama didn't have much of a significant past, he hadn't done anything much, so there was nothing in Obama's past that a racist could use to attack his credibility for office. They had to go all the way back to his birth, in 1961, to find something they could use for their agenda. Back to a time when the poor lad hadn't even started thinking yet, much less doing anything wrong.

With Hillary, it was easy, since she had a long history, of over 30 years of doing things in politics, lots of "stuff" you could dig up to ensure a "Woman" would not be president.

Obama was just a difficult case. His history was too "squeaky clean".

As a result, the Internet is filled with all sorts of crazy fantasies about Obama, which makes one wonder how he got the time to play all these alternate "secret" roles people have invented for him.

The Sheriff in Arizona just had the right qualifications, given his practice of harassing mexican looking peoples in his state, to take up the challenge of attempting to disenfranchise this african looking man sitting in the white house.

After all, it's not called "The Black House", it's "The White House" for a reason.

When Trump enters, though, he might paint it Pink, rename it "The Trump House", and staff it with playboy bunnies, and keep the rockettes on hand for private shows.

It's all just a bit of madness.

You sort of have to go with the flow.

a reply to: Xcalibur254

Its fake. Hokum

originally posted by: visitedbythem
a reply to: Xcalibur254

Its fake. Hokum

That is what people with no clue at all use to explain how Obama was elected as POTUS twice.

Remember, no expert even examined Obama's BC, only self proclaimed "experts" who never even examined the BC would declare it fake.

a reply to: hellobruce

Obama’s supporters will tell everyone who will listen that Barack Obama produced his real birth certificate in 2011. A single reporter – Savannah Guthrie of NBC news — was allowed to see the “real” document, and then it was scanned as a PDF file and loaded into the internet for everyone to see. As far as the Obama crowd is concerned, that’s the end of the story.

So one NBC reporter actually saw it !!!!

a reply to: AMPTAH

This is ridiculous, AMPTAH.

Obama did plenty to create speculation. He withheld his short form for months and it does not bear the raised seal embossment of the HDOH: Link

Whether you will admit the short form does not bear the raised seal embossment of the HDOH, doesn't matter. It doesn't and I am justified in my skepticism.

And Obama refused to produce his long form BC when a soldier refused to deploy without seeing it (that soldier went to prison for a year). Then he FINALLY produced the long form when Donald Trump challenged him -- but whether the proper raised seal embossment of the HDOH exists on it or not is not even evident in the image he did release. So there is no way to discern if it's even legally certified.

Obama isn't above questioning. And no one deserves to be accused of racism for the one and only act of not trusting him on this issue. He has lied, you know. And he lied about some very serious matters that similarly caused me to question white, male presidents (Republican and Democratic).

And, TBH, that long form pdf does seem to be intentionally full of red herrings.

originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: hellobruce

Obama’s supporters will tell everyone who will listen that Barack Obama produced his real birth certificate in 2011. A single reporter – Savannah Guthrie of NBC news — was allowed to see the “real” document, and then it was scanned as a PDF file and loaded into the internet for everyone to see. As far as the Obama crowd is concerned, that’s the end of the story.

So one NBC reporter actually saw it !!!!

And I wrote Savannah Guthrie a few times to ask if the seal was raised on the front or backside of the seal and she never answered me. God knows what she actually 'felt' when she claimed to feel a raised seal.

Not long after, she got her cushy job on the Today show.

originally posted by: MotherMayEye
And I wrote Savannah Guthrie a few times to ask if the seal was raised on the front or backside of the seal and she never answered me.

Very sensible of her, not wanting to talk to birthers!

a reply to: hellobruce

Of course. Because the public should never be allowed to verify jack squat with the media. We must all accept every single thing they report...even if they got it wrong before.