Happy un- Birthday Horus

originally posted by: Anaana
Do you know at what time of year this festival took place?

Thanks

Not yet, but it's called the Beautiful Feast of Behedet and there is some information here, including transliterations and translations of some of the words

There were a number of deities that had this kind of reunion festival.

originally posted by: Byrd

originally posted by: Anaana
Do you know at what time of year this festival took place?

Thanks

Not yet, but it's called the Beautiful Feast of Behedet and there is some information here, including transliterations and translations of some of the words

There were a number of deities that had this kind of reunion festival.

yes love they had.
The H'EB-festival was "the festival of completion of this present solarplane",
H' from Saturn and B from solarplane [trampling-foot-glyph]

..it tells that after Eden got destroyed, earth re-located to this present place, anchored by their solarplane.

The previous festival was HAKER, hebrew-H, denoting "escape from Eden" [hence hebrew-H in HAKER]

and after their UAG-festival, Thoth's [krishna's] festival,
of "succeeding to aquire the imprisoned word of God":
lasso UA + G , plexus

hence,
Horus, - the illegal product of the original adamite soul,
as fabricated construct -
became "H'ERU BEH'DET ,
as the blueprint for our despicable poor physical body.

..it is, almost, so lógical.....no ?

- the most important one, KHEPER, "transformation",

why need such important construct-deity,
when nothing to transform FROM ....?

ofcourse --
every-single-spell , THOUSANDS of them, is about "transforming ASPECTS OF EDEN" ......

originally posted by: Byrd
Nekhen's a far piece from the Gerzean (Fayum) area.

That's what I thought. This is what started the confusion...

Other discoveries at Nekhen include the Tomb 100, the oldest tomb with painted decoration on its plaster walls. The tomb is thought to date to the Gerzeh culture, 3500-3200 BC.

The decoration shows presumed religious scenes and images that include figures featured in Egyptian culture for three thousand years—a funerary procession of barques, possibly a goddess standing between two upright lionesses, a wheel of various horned quadrupeds, several examples of a staff that became associated with the deity of the earliest cattle culture and one being held up by a heavy-breasted goddess, onagers or zebras, ibexes, ostriches, lionesses, impalas, gazelles, and cattle.

en.wikipedia.org...

Is that crossed wires do you think? Probably not "occupation", but potentially a trade or industrial colony? Or just a typo maybe?

originally posted by: Byrd

originally posted by: Anaana
Do you know at what time of year this festival took place?

Thanks

Not yet, but it's called the Beautiful Feast of Behedet and there is some information here, including transliterations and translations of some of the words

There were a number of deities that had this kind of reunion festival.

It seems to be a collection of tythes to some extent too, a means of assessing productivity and asserting authority over the provinces, maybe? Naturally, farming communities celebrate "first fruits" and make offerings, as do hunter-gatherer societies differently, but I should imagine, auditing took place, and contributions had to be calculated for public works I would presume? All the mundane stuff.

I imagine it was incredibly fragrant and colourful though, quite the spectacle.

Nekhen and Edfu seem relatively close, I'm wondering if there was something specific about that region that made Horus more prominent there than elsewhere.

originally posted by: loNeNLI

originally posted by: Byrd

originally posted by: Anaana
Do you know at what time of year this festival took place?

Thanks

Not yet, but it's called the Beautiful Feast of Behedet and there is some information here, including transliterations and translations of some of the words

There were a number of deities that had this kind of reunion festival.

yes love they had.
The H'EB-festival was "the festival of completion of this present solarplane",
H' from Saturn and B from solarplane [trampling-foot-glyph]

Firstly, they didn't speak English. The "h" sound appears in thousands of words. And the "trampling foot" isn't.. it's the letter B. Their word for "trample" was "petpet" and there are no feet in that word. The determinative for it is 'man striking with a staff.'

it tells that after Eden got destroyed, earth re-located to this present place, anchored by their solarplane.

They didn't believe in a destroyed Eden. There was no "perfect creation that was destroyed" - in a sense, they believed that they were living in the best possible place and that there was a set of rules (ma'at) to maintain this perfection.

The previous festival was HAKER, hebrew-H, denoting "escape from Eden" [hence hebrew-H in HAKER]

Hebrew as a language is over 1100 years younger than Egyptian.

and after their UAG-festival, Thoth's [krishna's] festival,
of "succeeding to aquire the imprisoned word of God":
lasso UA + G , plexus

Krishna does not appear in the written literature (evidence as a deity) until around 400 BC. Thoth is much older than that.

Horus, - the illegal product of the original adamite soul,
as fabricated construct -
became "H'ERU BEH'DET ,
as the blueprint for our despicable poor physical body.

And the story of Adam comes from long after (1400 years) the first appearance of Horus.

originally posted by: Anaana
Is that crossed wires do you think? Probably not "occupation", but potentially a trade or industrial colony? Or just a typo maybe?

I'd go with what Wikipedia says... mainly because Egyptian history is SO detailed (so much information) that you really can know only one section of it well. So I know very little about the earliest time periods - I'm more interested in the First Intermediate Period and the Middle Kingdom. I've got a reasonable grasp of most of Egyptian history, but am only slowly amassing my reference library.

There's a whopping lot of books still to buy.

originally posted by: Anaana

originally posted by: Byrd

originally posted by: Anaana
Do you know at what time of year this festival took place?

Thanks

Not yet, but it's called the Beautiful Feast of Behedet and there is some information here, including transliterations and translations of some of the words

There were a number of deities that had this kind of reunion festival.

It seems to be a collection of tythes to some extent too, a means of assessing productivity and asserting authority over the provinces, maybe? Naturally, farming communities celebrate "first fruits" and make offerings, as do hunter-gatherer societies differently, but I should imagine, auditing took place, and contributions had to be calculated for public works I would presume? All the mundane stuff.

I imagine it was incredibly fragrant and colourful though, quite the spectacle.

It would have been amazing!

Nekhen and Edfu seem relatively close, I'm wondering if there was something specific about that region that made Horus more prominent there than elsewhere.

Not that I know of. However, remember that I'm only in my junior year in Egyptology.

Re taxes,etc...

The Egyptian bureaucracy was the most efficient administration system in the old world ... which is why, when invaders would enter or it was conquered, the ones who took over did NOT change the system, but instead became Egyptian themselves.

As to offerings, they were a constant part of everyday life. The gods got daily offerings of food and clothing and incense. They didn't sacrifice animals to the deities, though (or anything else.) These daily offerings went into the temple storehouse and were (in the case of food) distributed to priests and temple workers (everyone worked the temple... part of their civic duties.)

Pharaohs and nobles would donate land to the temples (and in return, the temples gave offerings for their souls). Eventually, the temples and High Priests become more powerful than most of the nobles and played a role in kingmaking.

...just figured out what you meant...

H' from Saturn ...

The "h" comes from medieval alchemy, four thousand years after the beginning of Egyptian culture.

Also, the (few) star maps from ancient Egypt don't give a name to the planet Saturn

originally posted by: Byrd
I'd go with what Wikipedia says... mainly because Egyptian history is SO detailed (so much information) that you really can know only one section of it well. So I know very little about the earliest time periods - I'm more interested in the First Intermediate Period and the Middle Kingdom. I've got a reasonable grasp of most of Egyptian history, but am only slowly amassing my reference library.

I'm interested in the Gerzeans, their burials display a quite rapid transistion between an egalitarian society and a more distinct material culture marked by the emergence of elite or novel burial goods. There is also the first emergence, in the Nile Valley cultures, of trade and industry specialisation, this seems to have been particularly centred around the production of flint knives. Edfu is just beyond where the flint deposits in the valley stop and the geological nature of the landscape changes, that could have been significant to them.