The Time Has Come To Say It Out Loud

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The time has come to say it out loud. Most of my academic colleagues say it privately, but hedge in their classes. Many of my old buddies at Time and Newsweek, where I was an editor for a decade, agree, but tell me they can never say so in print. All my friends fear that if they spell it out the FBI will arrest them in the middle of the night and they will become "disappeared" like hundreds of innocent Moslems who are not even charged with a crime. They know that Attorney General Ashcroft is itching to use the proposed Patriots� Act II, which will certainly become law after US forces suffer casualties in Iraq, to deport native-born critics of the Administration to Antarctica or bury them in solitary confinement in the Arizona desert, as that law permits. But it is now time to say and act upon the fact that the United States, as a state, is Fascist.

We all know, and the media certainly can list the proofs, that those in power in Washington, Vice President Cheney, Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld, and his deputy Wolfowitz, among others, plotted the current anti-Iraq policy years ago. In 1992 they actually wrote it up in a letter to Bush I. Even Ted Koppel read parts of that 96-page letter on Nightline the other day, proving that Bush II�s War has nothing to do with 9/11 or al Qaeda or terrorism. In fact, President Reagan removed Iraq from the list of states sponsoring terror back in l982.

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i wonder if Patriot act 2 will be given the appaling reception it deserves or if the media will shy away and play dumb, i sure hope there's an uproar in the states when that security act goes public.

Originally posted by All Seeing Eye
We all know, and the media certainly can list the proofs, that those in power in Washington, Vice President Cheney, Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld, and his deputy Wolfowitz, among others, plotted the current anti-Iraq policy years ago. In 1992 they actually wrote it up in a letter to Bush I. Even Ted Koppel read parts of that 96-page letter on Nightline the other day, proving that Bush II�s War has nothing to do with 9/11 or al Qaeda or terrorism. In fact, President Reagan removed Iraq from the list of states sponsoring terror back in l982.

The last bit of the statement doesn't strengthen your argument in my opinion.

Reagan removed them in '82. That's over 20 years ago, dude. The world has changed since then.

And I would have thought it natural to form some sort of policy in '92 with the first Gulf War just over and Saddam refusing to comply with UN Resolutions.

You also make it sound as if Cheney, Wolfowitz and others were secretly plotting against Iraq. I beg to differ. They were asked for solutions to different scenarios regarding the situation within Iraq. It was their job to come up with answers.

Nothing sinister there. If anything, it's logical to cover your bases.

The last bit of the statement doesn't strengthen your argument in my opinion.

I wholeheartedly agree. This last part actually hurts the arguement, more than it helps. Back in the early 80's, it made sense, as we shared a common foe in Iran... Likewise, '92 was a different story as well, as a result of Iraq's actions in attacking it's neighbor (or swallowing the bait, whichever you prefer...)

Come off it peeps. why the F*c8 are they so interested in Iraq then?$$
Cheney/Rumsfeld/Wolfowitz all wanted to attack Iraq to get rid of Saddam so they can open Iraq for business, if you think that is ok, fine. i think that is a disgrace, and clearly they don't think the rest of the world would be too keen on assisting their business dealings, so they attempted to convince the world that Saddam was a threat to all of us that needed to be removed, and this is where we leave the ideology,Cheney/Rumsfeld/Wolfowitz Rumsfeld did business with Saddam in the past, shook his hand, gave him a cowboy hat, in the years FOLLOWING Saddam's use of chemical weapons on civilians, what does this tell us about Rumsfeld's character?

Ask yourself why the US isn't interfering with any poor countries where people are being massacred, take pretty much any African country, why were they so concerned with the middle east, why do they give so much money to Isreal and Egypt?

American politics is business and business men look after their $ i expect nothing less but don't justfy the Cheney/Rumsfeld plan to invade on the grounds that they were out to protect America, they just wanted to make sure their business would flurish.
Cheney didn't even want to release Nelson Mandela from prison, what does that tell us about his character?

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Ok Peace.

" Cheney didn't even want to release Nelson Mandela from prison, what does that tell us about his character? "



Here what Cheney was thinking : " Yet Republican vice presidential candidate Cheney still defends his vote, saying on ABC's ``This Week'' that ``the ANC was then viewed as a terrorist organization. . . . I don't have any problems at all with the vote I cast 20 years ago.''

What's so wrong ? ANC was a terrorist organisation, so he was right when he was voting "no".

You re-inforce my point, Cheney saw them as terrorists, he obviously was also aware of the bigger picture in South Africa at the time, so i will accept what you say and still insist he is racist.