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originally posted by: JohnnyElohim
a reply to: X88B88
1) I've been here much longer than you have. Welcome aboard. Try not to get lost in your own confirmation bias.
2) If you have a problem with the Snopes analysis, how about you point out what, if anything, is wrong with their sources? You and those like you are engaging in an actual ad hominem argument: that of dismissing the content based purely on what you consider to be aspersions against the speaker (or publisher) that require no evidence or support.
3) Yes, I am well aware of the "Fake News" discussion. Your breathless and baseless analysis of it doesn't change the reality that it's a conversation being had because actual fake news is breeding like Tribbles. There was a satirical Fake News article written about how Trump won the popular vote. To this day there are people pounding their chests in their campaign against the "Hillbots" who point out that she is 1.7 million ahead in the popular vote thus far. That article slipped through the Google News algorithms and appeared as real news. This is happening more and more often. So, actual fake news is circulating and encouraging mouth breathers here and elsewhere to fill the airwaves with their peculiar brand of hateful ignorance. It is a problem.
Simply because you would like something to be true, because it adds excitement to your life or because it confirms your inherent bias (for example, that Democrats are Moloch-worshipping child-abusing anti-Christians), does not make it true.
Edit 2: /u/NotNolan brought up a fantastic point. If the admins continue to shadow edit, they could surreptitiously cause serious social damage to your account without you even knowing. Imagine all of the awful things they could pretty much make you say. This is not right. It has gone too far. Manipulating the words of your users is #ed. # YOU SPEZ.
originally posted by: Throes
originally posted by: Greggers
originally posted by: Throes
originally posted by: wirehead
So, in summary, people realized that if you replace the word pizza with child pornography in DNC emails it sounds like they order a lot of child pornography for large events. Truly inspirational investigative reporting.
People wouldn't have replaced pizza with anything if pizza made sense in the context of the emails. It didn't make sense.
Yes it did.
Please show me one of these emails where it didn't make sense.
Will you offer up the pizza related map?
The totally fabricated "hair on my pizza" email?
Well the hacker chief with pizza related map did make no sense.
Never mentioned hair on my pizza, not sure where that came from.
originally posted by: loam
a reply to: Konduit
Whatever.
Like Google, Facebook, Twitter and all of the MSM, they have finally exposed themselves and forever damaged their credibility.
No putting the genie back in the bottle.
originally posted by: JohnnyElohim
a reply to: X88B88
In reply to 1:
Far-right fascists want to prove that the left needs to be eliminated wholesale. Gaining control of the wheels of government is only the beginning for them. Of course the entire right is not populated with such folk, but right now those folk are rather powerful. Therefore, I do not buy into the "no motive" argument. They've plenty of motive.
In reply to 2:
I think it noteworthy that Snopes was able to demonstrate that the photos attributed to the owner were actually harvested from Yelp reviews, not from the owner's Instagram. This fact echoes much of what has been going on during the last year in terms of deliberate manipulations and deceptions on the part of people who would like to see the US become a "Fash Nation".
In reply to 3:
It was begun by a husband and wife team, who by the way have no trace of partisanship, and has several editors fact-checking. FactCheck.org analyzed their work and found them to be free of bias. Of course the radical fascists who are currently gaining control in the United States find everyone concerned with fact and not propaganda to be partisan and biased. You've made your ad hominem slightly more sophisticated, here, but it's still an ad hominem.
In reply to 4:
No, it has not been shown. It has been claimed, and with little merit. Does she float? Does she not? Witch either way.
Yes, time will tell. Not so long from now, history will judge quite harshly the facilitators and propagators of lies in the name of white supremacy and similar agendas. Good luck to you. Walk in peace. Eschew the violent.