Pence purges lobbyists from transition team

a reply to: loam

The white house will be empty if the president tries to clean up house of lobbyist, after all the most lucrative job for an ex politicians this days is actually becoming a lobbyist

These crocks have permanent offices next to the offices all those that have power in congress within capitol hill.

This is going to be interesting to watch.

originally posted by: the2ofusr1
a reply to: jadedANDcynical

Wouldn't it be great if he got Ron Paul in there somewhere ?

There's a push on Twitter to put him in Treasury.

If the Donald plans on trying to take on the Fed, he'll want someone experienced and willing to take on the same fight. Treasury also makes a lot of sense because it would keep him close unlike State and Paul is wise in the ways of D.C. chicanery and could prove to be a valuable advisor to the Don.

For the pure and admittedly immature desire to see the circus aspect of the election continue, I'd like to see him put in Milo as press secretary. How many heads would explode at that?

On both sides!

so If Trump holds grudges then how could he revenge lefties that voted for Hillary and made fun of him? May be give tax break only for rural areas?

Trump put a 5 year ban on anyone in his administration becoming a lobbyist.

a reply to: chrismarco

Yeah...and so is Republican Senator Blunt's of Missouri wife and children. They are all lobbyists. I'm sure he plans to be one when he loses his seat. It's amazing you only mentioned Democrats and families. Don't # yourself, both parties are involved. In fact, if a poll on the subject arose, I'm sure the GOP has more friends, family, contacts, and partners fighting each other to be first to argue their case and profit from it.

Now if he gave Rudy the boot and called in Ron Paul instead then that would really make me sit up and take note.
Also if he then lobbied for Rand Paul to be senate leader, then things will have really changed.

originally posted by: jadedANDcynical

originally posted by: the2ofusr1
a reply to: jadedANDcynical

Wouldn't it be great if he got Ron Paul in there somewhere ?

There's a push on Twitter to put him in Treasury.

If the Donald plans on trying to take on the Fed, he'll want someone experienced and willing to take on the same fight. Treasury also makes a lot of sense because it would keep him close unlike State and Paul is wise in the ways of D.C. chicanery and could prove to be a valuable advisor to the Don.

For the pure and admittedly immature desire to see the circus aspect of the election continue, I'd like to see him put in Milo as press secretary. How many heads would explode at that?

On both sides!

If that happened I might actually believe that Trump has America's best interests in mind. As of yet though it seems pretty obvious to me that his 'outsidership' is only surface deep.

I always thought that keeping Christie around was a mistake, if for no other reason than because Bridgegate tainted him.

The various names we hear in reports are just "trial balloons" floated by Trump's team to see what people think. Based on people's reactions, I suspect that we won't hear John Bolton's name again. He has the right experience to be Sec. of State, but I get the impression that Trump supporters mostly don't like him.

a reply to: loam

I was actually really worried about Christie, the fact that Trump did this is absolutely awesome, Christie was a complete wack-job.

originally posted by: marg6043
a reply to: loam

The white house will be empty if the president tries to clean up house of lobbyist, after all the most lucrative job for an ex politicians this days is actually becoming a lobbyist

These crocks have permanent offices next to the offices all those that have power in congress within capitol hill.

This is going to be interesting to watch.

Yea this should be really interesting.

a reply to: loam

I'm glad they've managed to block the Neocons and K Street sycophants for the time being, but it's very concerning that Trump is to be meeting with Henry Kissinger and is considering the likes of John Bolton or Rudolf Guiliani for Secretary of State.

We're watching very closely.

Drain the swamp means much more than campaign finance reform and repealing Citizens United to get the big money out of politics.

God I pray that he holds firm and holds the line with the help of good men like Pence locking together like Roman shields.

Then you part to make room for the voice of HK? Absurd.

a reply to: loam

Oh MY!! I'm late to the party, but THANK YOU!!!

I was becoming utterly despondent.
It became more and more like a nightmare. There's this one family who is a resident of my dreams, who keeps having babies that have deadly maladies and deformations, and most of them die. But the lady keeps having babies. It's tragic.

Today I was reminded of that family that haunts my dreams. Weird.

a reply to: BuzzyWigs

Lol... Huh?

a reply to: enlightenedservant

And the oil companies have near limitless amounts of funds to hire the lobbyists in the first place. It takes a good deal of money exchanging hands to get the traction in Washington started. And even more money to circumvent the long line of people waiting to stick their hands in the "cookie jar". This country was not founded by we the lobbyists. Or We the Corporate interests. Its We the people, by the people, for the people. And We the people have to start somewhere. So many interest groups look only after the interests of the companies that hire them, that much of the time the voice of the common man is drowned out into obscurity. That is one of the reasons the middle class keeps shrinking, And we have such a disparity between the working classes.
Once upon a time we took more pride in ourselves. Made in the USA, has become Made in china, India or almost anywhere but in the USA. How many of our jobs get outsourced to other cheaper countries.
Once upon a time we took the time to help our neighbors...no mater who they voted for. How many people now wouldn't lift a finger to save you if they knew you voted for someone they didn't like or even worst...help contribute to your demise because of your vote. Really makes you want to hit the polls don't it.
Once upon a time we taught our children the value of having morals. Respect. So many people think that respect is their right. There are many degrees of respect, but if you boil it all down, no matter if its respecting your elders, respecting your boss, Respecting your country or even respecting yourself, Respect to any degree must be earned. Money cannot buy it. And it cannot be simply demanded. You earn it.
Once upon a time we weren't so easily scared. Now we fear someone else's opinions so much that we need safe spaces in order to give us an absolutely false and utterly unrealistic sense of security.
Once upon a time we were great. And if we want to become great again just remember. Once upon a time had to start somewhere.

I always thought Pence was the best VP of the bunch.

a reply to: PainGod

And the oil companies have near limitless amounts of funds to hire the lobbyists in the first place. It takes a good deal of money exchanging hands to get the traction in Washington started. And even more money to circumvent the long line of people waiting to stick their hands in the "cookie jar". This country was not founded by we the lobbyists. Or We the Corporate interests. Its We the people, by the people, for the people. And We the people have to start somewhere.

Actually, the country was NOT founded by the citizens (aka "We the people"). Normal citizens had no say whatsoever in the waging of the American Revolution, the writing of the Articles of Confederation or the US Constitution, the structure of our State or local governments, or much else. In fact, most citizens couldn't even vote in the early general elections. Oh and lobbyists are citizens too. Lobbying is just a job.

So many interest groups look only after the interests of the companies that hire them, that much of the time the voice of the common man is drowned out into obscurity. That is one of the reasons the middle class keeps shrinking, And we have such a disparity between the working classes.

Interest groups focus on specific issues because it's easier to change a single thing at a time. Should the NRA also have a say in prescription drug prices? What expertise are they bringing to the table on that subject? And lobbyists focus on their clients' needs, just as a hired lawyer or carpenter focuses on his/her client's needs. So if people want them to push our needs, we need to hire them or become lobbyists & special interest groups. Otherwise, we're just begging the people in power to listen to us, which clearly doesn't work.

Once upon a time we took more pride in ourselves. Made in the USA, has become Made in china, India or almost anywhere but in the USA. How many of our jobs get outsourced to other cheaper countries.

That's not about pride, that's about costs. How many citizens right now are willing to pay $20 for an American-made shirt when they can buy the same shirt for $10 if it's made in Bangladesh? In other words, if people really care about outsourcing, they show it with their purchasing habits. It's like the people who complain about drug cartels and street gangs, yet purchase their drugs, as if those purchases don't sustain the cartels and gangs they claim to be against (or the people who complain about "illegal immigrants" yet hire them for cheap labor).

Once upon a time we took the time to help our neighbors...no mater who they voted for. How many people now wouldn't lift a finger to save you if they knew you voted for someone they didn't like or even worst...help contribute to your demise because of your vote. Really makes you want to hit the polls don't it.

What time period was this? You mean back in the day when we had forced racial segregation, when different States had bounties for the scalps of Native Americans (HERE), and people were sending out "lynching postcards" (google it)? Ironically, the younger generations tend to gravitate more towards sharing, socializing, and socialism than the older generations do. So from my perspective, people are more willing to help their neighbors now than at any other period in American history.

Once upon a time we taught our children the value of having morals. Respect. So many people think that respect is their right. There are many degrees of respect, but if you boil it all down, no matter if its respecting your elders, respecting your boss, Respecting your country or even respecting yourself, Respect to any degree must be earned. Money cannot buy it. And it cannot be simply demanded. You earn it.

LOL What morals? Slavery, abusing LGBT children, wife beating not being a crime, and open racial discrimination? How many Native American tribes/nations are still stuck on reservations right now because of our historical morals? Maybe we have different definitions of morality, because I don't think we've ever had real morals here. Prostitution, intoxication, murder, rape, and every other form of "immorality" has always existed here. Sure, pop culture may cuss openly and promote overt sexuality. But how is cussing less moral than scalping Natives for a bounty? And how is flaunting one's body less moral than having non-consensual sex with one's family member or one's slave?

Once upon a time we weren't so easily scared. Now we fear someone else's opinions so much that we need safe spaces in order to give us an absolutely false and utterly unrealistic sense of security.

LOL We had nearly 100 years of forced racial segregation. That's the most glaring example of a "safe space" that I've ever seen. Some communities still don't want other demographics living in their communities. Surely those count as safe spaces too, right?

Its not always about race. Not every argument has to be lead down that road. You put race into the argument by injecting it in your responses. My argument wasn't about how this country racially segregated its population (This is no secret it is a well known and shameful part of our countries history.) Or how this country treated the ones that were slaved.
Tell me how the sins of the past condemn those that had no part in it. Those that were raised to rise above the bitterness and resentment. I was raised to treat people with respect no matter the color of their skin. I was taught that robbing and murdering is morally wrong no matter who was doing the robbing or murdering.
The once upon a time I was talking of was within my generation.
Your argument seems to draw a race line in the sand where there was no line in my response to begin with. I will not be baited into a race battle online. Everyone that i know, Everyone that grew up around me, know of the sins of our countries
past. You don't dwell on them you reflect and learn and move on just like life. Mine and my own will not forget the sacrifices that were made from all the races. We are not a perfect country just as surely as we don't have a perfect past. But by learning from the past we can forge a better future to the ones that will live beyond us.

a reply to: PainGod
Like you, I remember those days too. However, your rant lacks mentioning the criminal intent and actions of those who created America's demise. For instance, you implied the death nail to the middle class was merely losing their place in line by lobbies and special interest groups. In fact, that is the "result of" criminal manipulation. Crimes were/are committed by those who see the constitution as a roadblock to ignore and navigate around.