Passerby shoots, kills motorist assaulting deputy after traffic stop

And where did this climate of Cop killing and beating arise from ? Under who's administration did all these incidents with police shootings come from ? Eight years ago this was seldom news.

It would seem the Republicans are for the rule of law, while the Democrats espouse anarchy....... just an observation.. Again, who has encouraged this climate ?
Did I say eight years?, well perhaps I should have said six years, with campaigning and all.

a reply to: uncommitted

we have no clue as to how big the suspect was or the bystander nor the deputy.
could be both the cop and the bystander were dwarfed by the suspect, (well i guess we could call him the prep now got at three people that saw him doing what he did,) and the bystander didn't want to be hurt.
could be the bystander was just as big as the prep, and didn't want to risk injury.
could be any number of things.

seeing how the man was beating the cop and wouldn't stop after being warned the bystander did the right thing and the best choice.

It's sad that someone had to die here, but I am glad it wasn't the cop or the innocent guy who shot the bad guy. I am sure the reasons why the cop was put in this position will be analyzed, but we as armchair quarterbacks on Monday morning, have no idea. It's also fantastic that the bystander was able to hit the target and not anything else, like the officer. Good training, and good reactions. Again, sad that a person had to be killed, but assaulting a police officer is not something you do, if you wan to live a long and prosperous life.

a reply to: Vasa Croe

The cop was working a accident on the interstate. The guy was swerving in and out of traffic at 120 and the chase proceeded. When the guy stopped yea he got out before the cop.

I agree, it is the right thing to do..... and I hope it is still the right thing to do when its a Trump voter getting beat by a SJW...... or when its a citizen getting beaten by a cop.

Color of your skin, the uniform you wear, the politics you believe in..... none of that should matter in a country where we are Americans before anything else...... and none of that should green light your ability to cause unduly harm to another

originally posted by: uncommitted
a reply to: Vasa Croe

Instead of the passer by killing the person, why do you think he didn't try to physically restrain him? Don't you think that would have been doing the right thing?

Because America.... If this was England the guy would have had his arse handed to him and he'd be sitting in a cell nursing his wounds now with a hefty fine / jail sentence. Whereas Americans genuinely believe the only answer is by shooting people.

Assaulting a cop is utterly stupid and the guy was obviously dangerously moronic, but did he deserve to die? No of course not.

A jail sentence or a beat-down is temporary, a shooting is permanent. Somebody lost a son.

a reply to: Plotus

So true. These instances were never common. What has taken place these last 8 years from the housing bubble burst to what we've seen droneing people, officers being executed in the street, officers executing innocent people in droves to now riots because of an election I mean this is 3rd world country level. If this is the result of the Mandela effect, please, I want a different thread in timespace.

How could I not mention Sandy hook and all the terrorist murders countrywide eiter random or ff's, this place is f'in insane

I sure hope come January, when Trump is sworn in, he does something for the good guy's side. Like un-neutering the Police so that they can take care of these criminals. This cannot continue like this, unless this is the plan. Glad the armed citizen was there to stop the attack.

a reply to: mr-lizard

Well I say if your son is beating the sh#t out of a deputy the world is better without him.
I like the outcome. If its true this story is awesome

originally posted by: mr-lizard

originally posted by: uncommitted
a reply to: Vasa Croe

Instead of the passer by killing the person, why do you think he didn't try to physically restrain him? Don't you think that would have been doing the right thing?

Because America.... If this was England the guy would have had his arse handed to him and he'd be sitting in a cell nursing his wounds now with a hefty fine / jail sentence. Whereas Americans genuinely believe the only answer is by shooting people.

Assaulting a cop is utterly stupid and the guy was obviously dangerously moronic, but did he deserve to die? No of course not.

A jail sentence or a beat-down is temporary, a shooting is permanent. Somebody lost a son.

It's a shame we didn't have some Englishmen around to subdue this man. Over in England, do you guys patrol the streets, or do you use like a "bat signal" of some sort?

the sarcastic point being, this happened on a stretch of highway where there weren't an abundance of people standing around looking for some injustice to correct. In England the cop would likely be dead and the guy who assaulted him would have been caught when his vehicle was identified and he was found. Unless there was a crowd there to dispense justice as you seem to think exists everywhere. I am sure your country is safer than mine, but crazy people don't respect borders or your wishes.

originally posted by: sg1642
I know every situation is different but why is the first instinct for the cop or a passer by to shoot to kill? Couldn't the cop have used pepper spray or a baton?

I'm not trying to blame the police here far from it. And does it really take 3 shots to stop an assault?

Sometimes it takes more. One story comes to mine, the suspect was hit around 15 times, but it still took 2, yes 2 head shots to end it, and even then the guy still had a pulse. Lots of factors come into play in real life. If the person is mentally determined to harm someone, you would be surprised at how many hits they can take. Also all depends on where you are hit.

Bad guy dead, officer gets to go home to his family, passerby becomes hero but with a heavy burden. I see two living victims and one less scumbag to deal with.

Sometimes karma really is a bitch.

originally posted by: Kukri
Bad guy dead, officer gets to go home to his family, passerby becomes hero but with a heavy burden. I see two living victims and one less scumbag to deal with.

What if that dead scumbag was your brother, son, father or whoever having a bad day? Mentally ill or hooked on drugs or any number of issues. Most people in the right mind don't go attacking policemen do they?

Would you so gleefully wooing over your comic-book style good-guy vs bad-guy rubbish then?

But then again, I'm probably barking up the wrong street here. I expected nothing less.

a reply to: network dude

Why would you want to subdue this man? When you can non chalantly attack an officer like this I would imagine you are a wanted felon or are on parole and figure do anything to not go back. If these are the people walking around in our society then maybe it's time for me to get a carry conceal permiit. Wild animals that attack are put down for the better of the world.

originally posted by: mr-lizard

originally posted by: Kukri
Bad guy dead, officer gets to go home to his family, passerby becomes hero but with a heavy burden. I see two living victims and one less scumbag to deal with.

What if that dead scumbag was your brother, son, father or whoever having a bad day? Mentally ill or hooked on drugs or any number of issues. Most people in the right mind don't go attacking policemen do they?

Would you so gleefully wooing over your comic-book style good-guy vs bad-guy rubbish then?

But then again, I'm probably barking up the wrong street here. I expected nothing less.

what if the cop was your son? would your attitude be different?

a reply to: mr-lizard

Major fail. My cousin is NYPD in bedstuy used to walk the beat round the projects alone. He said on the first of the month there would be automatic weapons going off and people getting robbed at the check cashing spot, he would duck out in the pappa johns and wait for it to stop. This is life in Some places of the great US of A. Some people in society need to be whacked or we won't have a society.

originally posted by: mr-lizard

originally posted by: uncommitted
a reply to: Vasa Croe

Instead of the passer by killing the person, why do you think he didn't try to physically restrain him? Don't you think that would have been doing the right thing?

Because America.... If this was England the guy would have had his arse handed to him and he'd be sitting in a cell nursing his wounds now with a hefty fine / jail sentence. Whereas Americans genuinely believe the only answer is by shooting people.

Assaulting a cop is utterly stupid and the guy was obviously dangerously moronic, but did he deserve to die? No of course not.

A jail sentence or a beat-down is temporary, a shooting is permanent. Somebody lost a son.

I have to say I'm totally with you, maybe because I too am in the UK and if the assailant wasn't using a gun or knife, and the police person was concious (evidenced by him shouting "shoot him"), then putting three bullets in him should surely have been the last resort, not the first.

originally posted by: mr-lizard

originally posted by: Kukri
Bad guy dead, officer gets to go home to his family, passerby becomes hero but with a heavy burden. I see two living victims and one less scumbag to deal with.

What if that dead scumbag was your brother, son, father or whoever having a bad day? Mentally ill or hooked on drugs or any number of issues. Most people in the right mind don't go attacking policemen do they?

Would you so gleefully wooing over your comic-book style good-guy vs bad-guy rubbish then?

But then again, I'm probably barking up the wrong street here. I expected nothing less.

Well if I had a family member that assaulted a police officer for no apparent reason than doing a traffic stop I could not in good conscience excuse that behaviour. What if that cop was my brother/sister or other family member? The perp had ample opportunity to cease and desist but continued which in my opinion makes it an attempted homicide. This shooting is 100% justified until contradictory facts are introduced PERIOD.

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