Why do we hate social justice?

Don't confuse actual social justice with "social justice warriors".

SJW are toxic mimcs who actually work to take away liberty from people instead of ensuring liberty and justice for all.

a reply to: Now2016

I guess we all have a bit victim and SJW in us.

We all suffer from perceived injustices, heck this is a conspiracy site we should know best about injustice socially, morally and lawfully.

It's like all this enlightened and not being sheep crap, they just dump all sorts into the water and then stir it a bit.

A good question would be when did we start waking up.

a reply to: RAY1990

Social justice as a concept is fine, few people will argue that.

It's the means taken to achieve that justice that many have issue with.

For all too many, it's any means to that end, regardless of who it hurts to get there...where's the justice in that? I submit that there is none.

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: RAY1990

I believe the reason to be because we can't exactly pinpoint what exactly it is. Everyone has their own idea on the meaning although it does have a definition. Fair and equal do not mean the same thing.

Along the same thought pattern:

Have you noticed that the meanings of SJWs and Snowflakes are being muddied? A few of the Pro-Hillary shill accounts went out of their way to mix up the meaning. One referred to Americans that were pro-gun as special snowflakes, another referred to Trump supporters of being snowflakes, there was also a writer of a pro-Trump thread that was referred to as a SJW. I studied PR and I believe the shills are instructed to mix up the terms to distance themselves from the negative connotations

a reply to: Kalixi

Great post, I'm in agreement with you.

There is ways to act even when under duress. The aggressive actions of some under BLM or even the more recent SJW's is unlawful, actions like that should be denounced at the set off, the MSM never helps though does it.

a reply to: Sillyosaurus

Of course true altruism exists. Not very much, most want something out of it, even if it's only the satisfaction of having done something for their fellow man.

There's nothing wrong with that, either, so long as other folks aren't harmed in the process.

An it harm none do what ye will.

a reply to: Kalixi

It's possible. Take the stigma out of the label. You'll find no argument from me regardless of who is slinging it. Labels are conversation killers and a sign of a losing argument.

a reply to: LittleByLittle

You word in a way a lot I have thought about and probably couldn't convey as well.

I love a good conspiracy and have often thought about why societies go from one extreme to another, it could very well be that it's carefully orchestrated so that we are too busy having mental breakdowns about the opposite than trying to understand them and thus possibly live in relative peace.

We always get there in the end though.

Communists, terrorists then aliens?

a reply to: RAY1990

I think we are all SJW for the causes we believe in, and ridicule SJW for causes we have no interest in.

a reply to: Deny Arrogance

Don't confuse actual social justice with "social justice warriors". SJW are toxic mimcs who actually work to take away liberty from people instead of ensuring liberty and justice for all.

So does this girl equal "social justice" or a toxic "social justice warrior?"

I would call her a Social Justice Warrior.

a reply to: Deny Arrogance

I've seen the way some acted after the brexit here at home. I totally agree that the behavior of some is out of order. Hardly all accepting and rather hypothetical if you ask me.

a reply to: Now2016

Are those the same Bundy's that used public land and refused to pay?

a reply to: seagull

Yeah, take Martin Luther King for instance and the way he conducted his/the movement.

Here in the UK evidence is starting to come to light about HM forces infiltrating miner strikes and enciting violence so there is always the manipulation element within movements.

Some people can just be stupid and superficial too.

a reply to: RAY1990
Learning about this phenomenon from a distance, I got the impression that "Social Justice Warrior" was originally a self-adopted nickname, used as a banner of pride by one class of people. If so, the label simply inherits the hostility which that class is receiving from outsiders. The hostility is not attached to the concept, in itself, but to the people who are using it as a label for themselves. Just as people who hate the Nazis are hating people who called themselves "National Socialists", without actually hating socialism as such.

If my impression was mistaken, then that's a different matter.

originally posted by: Pyle
a reply to: Now2016

Are those the same Bundy's that used public land and refused to pay?

Pay for letting your cattle graze on vacant, public and unused land?. Why?

It's ok for wild animals to eat from unused public land, but not cattle bred for human consumption? They have to eat Monsanto Corn?

a reply to: Now2016

We all do have views on how the world could be better one way or the other, the issue as always is some form of extremism.

As always there will be casualties.

In the midst of all the extremism is fundamental truths most of us agree with, ideals we all could uphold. Whether it be Greenpeace, BLM or the Taliban it always ends up to the extremes and then people notice.

I'm not sure if it's collective dumbness or cleverly orchestrated social engineering. Someone always profits though and it usually isn't any majority.

a reply to: DISRAELI

It's more than a class thing I'd think, it's being used in connotation similar to hippies and Greenpeace. It's easy to write off a whole crowd with the extreme actions of a few.

It's a highly repeated tactic, I think

a reply to: RAY1990
I wasn't actually using the word ""class" in that sense. I hesitated between that word and "group", and perhaps I should revert to "group" after all, though it has overtones of "organisation" which don't really apply.
Maybe "type" is the word.

a reply to: Now2016

I would cal her Malala, hug and say that she was very brave. But I would not label her as part of any group who's prime goal is media attention and negative propaganda. She is nothing like the countless faceless American girls who wave their smartphone cameras in peoples' faces and call them names they do not deserve to be called.

People are individuals not symbols for groups.

Also, Malala Yousafzai survived that shooting, which is even more amazing and I encourage anyone to read more about her story.More about Malala

I don't want to knock social justice, but remember you can't put out a fire with more fire, you can't stop violence with more violence, and you can't make people stop calling you names by calling them more names.

Social justice begins....... when there stops being laws for them and different laws for us.
Social justice is not affirmative action.... thats social payback
Social justice is not..... kill a cop get mandatory 30yrs...but kill my daughter and you might walk away free

Handle that issue and the rest will start falling into place on its own.

I personally think it's because most of the time it comes from a position of hate, rather than a position of love.

To make real social changes you need to be inclusive of others whereas most social justice is confrontational.