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originally posted by: digital01anarchy
Cant use the ocean.
originally posted by: Arnie123
Meh, there was a movement here in the states to do such a thing, actually for a while now.
Won't happen. The way the article is written makes it sound like the whole states wants it, but I suspect only a few rich folks are trying to push the agenda.
YesCalifornia, which is pushing for California to secede and become a separate country, staged a daylong "informational session" Wednesday outside the State Capitol in Sacramento.
Discussion of the idea exploded Wednesday on Twitter, where tweets with the hashtag #calexit rolled in at hundreds per minute all day. Many — often paired with the hashtag #notmypresident, in reference to Donald Trump's election — backed the movement.
YesCalifornia, a political action committee formed in August 2015, is working for a referendum on the 2019 state ballot that would start the long path to legal secession.
"In our view, the United States of America represents so many things that conflict with Californian values, and our continued statehood means California will continue subsidizing the other states to our own detriment, and to the detriment of our children," the group says in a 33-page "CalExit Blue Book."
www.nbcnews.com...
originally posted by: LanceCorvette
Whenever people bring this up I try to point out how difficult it would actually be.
1. They'd need to create a currency;
2. They'd need a way to value that currency;
3. They'd need foreign countries to recognize that currency;
...
6. They'd need to create a whole new set of laws;
originally posted by: ThingsThatDontMakeSense
originally posted by: Arnie123
Meh, there was a movement here in the states to do such a thing, actually for a while now.
Won't happen. The way the article is written makes it sound like the whole states wants it, but I suspect only a few rich folks are trying to push the agenda.
I wouldn't be so sure about that. The movement's growing at an alarming rate.
This just in from NBC:
YesCalifornia, which is pushing for California to secede and become a separate country, staged a daylong "informational session" Wednesday outside the State Capitol in Sacramento.
Discussion of the idea exploded Wednesday on Twitter, where tweets with the hashtag #calexit rolled in at hundreds per minute all day. Many — often paired with the hashtag #notmypresident, in reference to Donald Trump's election — backed the movement.
YesCalifornia, a political action committee formed in August 2015, is working for a referendum on the 2019 state ballot that would start the long path to legal secession.
"In our view, the United States of America represents so many things that conflict with Californian values, and our continued statehood means California will continue subsidizing the other states to our own detriment, and to the detriment of our children," the group says in a 33-page "CalExit Blue Book."
www.nbcnews.com...
originally posted by: ThingsThatDontMakeSense
originally posted by: LanceCorvette
Whenever people bring this up I try to point out how difficult it would actually be.
1. They'd need to create a currency;
2. They'd need a way to value that currency;
3. They'd need foreign countries to recognize that currency;
...
6. They'd need to create a whole new set of laws;
Also it looks like YesCalifornia wants to import the majority of the laws of the United States wholesale.
originally posted by: abe froman
a reply to: Nyiah
Basically the only way out is revolution or being kicked out by the other states.
The Supreme Court has ruled succession is unconstitutional.
our continued statehood means California will continue subsidizing the other states to our own detriment,
originally posted by: abe froman
a reply to: Nyiah
Basically the only way out is revolution or being kicked out by the other states.
The Supreme Court has ruled succession is unconstitutional.
originally posted by: LanceCorvette
originally posted by: ThingsThatDontMakeSense
originally posted by: LanceCorvette
Whenever people bring this up I try to point out how difficult it would actually be.
1. They'd need to create a currency;
2. They'd need a way to value that currency;
3. They'd need foreign countries to recognize that currency;
...
6. They'd need to create a whole new set of laws;
Also it looks like YesCalifornia wants to import the majority of the laws of the United States wholesale.
Then, uh, why bother?
Point made about the currency, but I don't think it would be that easy.
My point is, as someone else said, it's not like they can just say it and it happens; it's hard and difficult work running a country, let alone setting one up from scratch.
I would also point out that it will be unlikely that the United States would (a) recognize their sovereignty; (b) trade with them; (c) allow the free flow of goods and people back and forth.
originally posted by: StoutBroux
a reply to: digital01anarchy
Do they honestly think the Fed Gov will continue to give them 400 billion dollars a year? What a bunch of buffoons they are.
originally posted by: Teikiatsu
I would vote to allow California to concede, but only if they allow North Cali to split into its own State first.
www.washingtonpost.com...