Critical Mass Against the Establishment Just Occurred

Alex is just one of the crazier cogs in the wheel. The point of my OP is to thank everyone, even crazy Alex, for staying the course, in their own ways, to cause the American people to wake the hell up and do something.

Brexit.
Trump.
France and Germany both have elections next year, I believe.
The next two stages?

Most of the stories published by Alt media over the last several weeks have been complete lies. We could walk through them story by story, but who has the endurance for an argument like that at this point? I certainly don't.

And I hope people didn't vote for Trump because of those made up stories.

If they held any of that against Hillary, I hope it was the REAL scandals (pay to play, the emails) and not the completely fabricated stuff, like:

1) Podesta rigging MSM polls (totally untrue)
2) Podesta part of a child sex traficking ring (no proof whatsoever)
3) Podesta tries to get illegals to vote (totally untrue)

And a hundred other things....

I've said this before, but I think the real story here is Hillary's general unlikeability and the desire of the American people to stick it to the establishment.

Whether the American people got what they think they've gotten is something else entirely.

a reply to: lortl

I guess WE just have,for all intents and purposes.

originally posted by: lortl
a reply to: muzzleflash
going to have morality police next

We call them the police.
They arrest people who allegedly act immorally and steal, hurt others with their actions, don't play by the rules, or even kill.
Then the courts try to work it out and determine what was moral or immoral.

The "Morality Police" have been around as long as civilization itself.
They haven't ever been perfect, and they themselves are immoral too, but that's why we have watchdogs and internal affairs and cameras everywhere now - because we want to make this world more Moral and Fair.

You got it all wrong this time.

a reply to: NoCorruptionAllowed


Trump is a pragmatist, not an idealist. Their will be no morality police, he runs Casinos .He knows how to take a calculated risk. If he's bona fide you have a good chance. We will soon find out, but the Clintons will hang on to the last minute.

originally posted by: reldra
a reply to: TrueAmerican

It was actually Alex Jones and many, many right wing sites that gave a voice to idiots.

You are a smart person. In this case, Apparently not. You will regret that post.

bitter to the end i see. so much hate and insults during this election let's hope it stops and people can accept what america has chosen. i never understood how anyone could believe in her with what all was exposed in this election. I think in time clinton will be seen for what she truly is even by those who once supported her.

originally posted by: Greggers


Whether the American people got what they think they've gotten is something else entirely.

I think the situation is only going to get worse.

But the lines are being drawn much more clearly now.

I expect riots, mayhem, etc.
Maybe I'm wrong, I hope I'm wrong, but I doubt it.

The writings on the wall.

This election had very little to do with Trump or Hillary.
Let's get real here.

Well Muzzle, I totally empathize with you and your sentiments about Ron Paul. Remember, I was there with you, bro. It just wasn't quite time yet. It almost was.

But to be honest, I feel like a huge weight has been somewhat lifted off me. I feel now like we may have a chance to avoid more war.

I am actually genuinely smiling for the first time since 9/11. And that is one long time.

It's time to unite our factions and quit the bickering. NOW is when the real work starts.

And I... I am going to have a damn beer for the first time in a very, very, long time. Rejoice brothers. We are making some serious headway.

oh the irony

a reply to: TrueAmerican

I understand your joy, I really do.

But I'm afraid you are in denial about what's coming down the pike here.

There is not going to be reconciliation, this is America, we are divided, that's our hallmark, it's our way of life.

There will be no uniting of the factions and the bickering will only get worse.
We are on the slippery slope. Just because you grabbed some brush and stopped the slide for a moment doesn't mean we can somehow climb back up. We just have to figure out how to crash gracefully when this little twig snaps.

Forgive me for going with the cynical view here, but I don't see the promised land anywhere near ahead. I see a future that is completely alien to us, all of us. And the path there is extremely difficult.

All I'm saying is buckle up and brace yourself, we haven't seen anything yet.
The next 20 years will be Insane.

a reply to: muzzleflash

Explain more please. Why? Establishment blowback? Wars? Riots? What?

a reply to: TrueAmerican

Well said.

I think most of us realise that Trump is not going to be the saviour, but the fact the there is even a slight chance that he may alter the trajectory the the country is on, is something to celebrate.

Ultimately, the most pleasing aspect about today, is not how much brighter the immediate future will be, because it is unlikely to impact it too much IMHO, but the demonstration by the voters that they are able to see through the spin, fear and lies of the ruling class, their refusal to be intimidated, show some heart and make a united stand like they did today. We are going to need it, as there are many more uphill battles to fight, but now, just like the Brexit result, I have a glimmer of hope that the little guy can prevail over the corporate evil that controls this world presently.

If Trump dont fallow the correct time line and work for whats in the best interest of NSA,CIA,CFR, Pentagon and FBI.

Some how i think we will see another Kenedy insident accuring if Trump steps to far out of line.

originally posted by: TrueAmerican

originally posted by: muzzleflash
I keep feeling like this shoulda went to Ron Paul though.

I'm still really bummed out about that.

I remember when Trump was a jerk to him over the exact sentiment that just favored him today.

I think a large part of it does go to Ron Paul. He is not lost in this whatsoever. It was a massive, massive effort from all sides. I will never, ever forget Ron Paul.

I agree about Ron Paul. In many ways, the movement started with him.

a reply to: iTruthSeeker

And before Ron Paul. Forums like ATS discussing 9/11 and other "conspiracies" spawned a whole contingent of people who started separating from the mainstream and asking daring questions that the MSM was terrified to ask. Everyone seemed to have their own contributing angle on things. Some went nuts, some freaked out, and others refused to part from the mainstream talking points. It has been a pretty fascinating movement that awoke a lot of people in different ways. And the funny thing is the core movement was always there. It was just lying immobile and silent. Well it just awoke. We're done with corruption and globalism, and America has stated its core desire to return us to our core ideals that makes us one of the greatest countries the world has ever seen.

There is another thread emerging now.... Trump has been backed by the rothschilds for 30 years.

We lose, because they played both horses...

It feels exactly like Brexit did for a lot of us in the U.K. The polls were saying that Remain would win easily but they were wrong & when I woke up to the world where Brexit had won, it felt surreal. A very good surreal but surreal all the same.
Even though I dislike Trump, (he's been a bit of an prick in my neck of the woods)I wish him all the best and hope he can succeed in making America great again.

a reply to: ChaoticOrder

Trump talks big, but does he walk the walk? Will he get the wall built? Will he deport millions of illegal immigrants and end sanctuary cities? Will he ban Muslims from entering the U.S.? What else? Since he won the Presidency, I would say he walks the walk he talks.

I think there are a lot of big things to come, and they might not have the best consequences. I'm hardly a member of the establishment, however, I think that there are dangers with a movement like this. But good things too, because we get to hear from a part of society that the liberal media was suppressing.

originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed

originally posted by: lortl
a reply to: muzzleflash

no dude u do not define what morality is

is trump going to have morality police next, just like iran

The majority of VOTERS decided tonight what MORALITY is and it is NOT the Hillary Clinton crowd.

Actually no, it seems the majority of voters chose Clinton.

www.yahoo.com...

A day after Election Day, Clinton held a narrow lead in the popular vote, according to unofficial results tallied by The Associated Press. With nearly 125 million votes counted, Clinton had 47.7 percent of the vote and Trump had 47.5 percent. That's a lead of about 236,000 votes.

So tell us about that morality again?