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originally posted by: SprocketUK
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: SprocketUK
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: SprocketUK
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: SprocketUK
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: SprocketUK
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: SprocketUK
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: SprocketUK
Those who think the saintly Ms Miller only brought her case to uphold democracy ought to bear in mind that she is rabidly opposed to both brexit and the democratic right of the people to select their government and system thereof.
A quote from the FT. "Brexit is a disaster"
www.ft.com...
Those aren't the words of a person who accepts the will of the majority but a shill wanting to use anything to subvert democracy.
Where in your linked article does it say she is opposed to the democratic selection of government?
Doesn't need to does it? She's already trying to overturn a democratic mandate and if successful then we will be forced to remain in and be governed by the EU. Ergo my assertion is proven.
Her legal case wasn't about overturning the referendum. Ergo you are wrong.
Dead wrong there fella.
She 'said' it wasn't but when you see her real thoughts on brexit it's all too obvious that her real motivation and that of her backers is to stop the UK leaving the EU.
Lots of people think brexit could be a disaster, doesn't make them anti democratic.
The court decided that parliament has too vote on it. Nothing more nothing less.
Loads of people do think so. They don't launch a legal bid to overturn the outcome of a referendum though.
If you can't discern her real motives from her own words and actions, then that's on you isn't it?
She didn't.
Wow. You claiming a Mandela effect now? Cool.
You either missed her court case or it was one of those days that bucky was 2 for 1 in bargain booze.
The referendum decision wasn't overturned. Do you really not understand that or are you just plain making stuff up?
Because you missed it, my contention was that the case was brought with the intention of doing exactly that.
All this talk of doing it for democracy is a lie perpetrated by her and the anti democratic fascist scumbags that refuse to accept the will of the majority of voters.
So you did just make stuff up. Thanks for clarifying.
Unless you can show where the referendum was overturned?
I made nothing up.
I posted what she did and what she said, taken together the only reasonable interpretation is that she does not want Brexit to happen.
If you can't see that, the fault lies with your ability to understand, not my ability to explain.
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: SprocketUK
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: SprocketUK
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: SprocketUK
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: SprocketUK
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: SprocketUK
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: SprocketUK
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: SprocketUK
Those who think the saintly Ms Miller only brought her case to uphold democracy ought to bear in mind that she is rabidly opposed to both brexit and the democratic right of the people to select their government and system thereof.
A quote from the FT. "Brexit is a disaster"
www.ft.com...
Those aren't the words of a person who accepts the will of the majority but a shill wanting to use anything to subvert democracy.
Where in your linked article does it say she is opposed to the democratic selection of government?
Doesn't need to does it? She's already trying to overturn a democratic mandate and if successful then we will be forced to remain in and be governed by the EU. Ergo my assertion is proven.
Her legal case wasn't about overturning the referendum. Ergo you are wrong.
Dead wrong there fella.
She 'said' it wasn't but when you see her real thoughts on brexit it's all too obvious that her real motivation and that of her backers is to stop the UK leaving the EU.
Lots of people think brexit could be a disaster, doesn't make them anti democratic.
The court decided that parliament has too vote on it. Nothing more nothing less.
Loads of people do think so. They don't launch a legal bid to overturn the outcome of a referendum though.
If you can't discern her real motives from her own words and actions, then that's on you isn't it?
She didn't.
Wow. You claiming a Mandela effect now? Cool.
You either missed her court case or it was one of those days that bucky was 2 for 1 in bargain booze.
The referendum decision wasn't overturned. Do you really not understand that or are you just plain making stuff up?
Because you missed it, my contention was that the case was brought with the intention of doing exactly that.
All this talk of doing it for democracy is a lie perpetrated by her and the anti democratic fascist scumbags that refuse to accept the will of the majority of voters.
So you did just make stuff up. Thanks for clarifying.
Unless you can show where the referendum was overturned?
I made nothing up.
I posted what she did and what she said, taken together the only reasonable interpretation is that she does not want Brexit to happen.
If you can't see that, the fault lies with your ability to understand, not my ability to explain.
Has the the referendum been overturned?
If your answer is yes provide a source.
If no then acknowledge you made that up.
originally posted by: SprocketUK
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: SprocketUK
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: SprocketUK
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: SprocketUK
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: SprocketUK
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: SprocketUK
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: SprocketUK
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: SprocketUK
Those who think the saintly Ms Miller only brought her case to uphold democracy ought to bear in mind that she is rabidly opposed to both brexit and the democratic right of the people to select their government and system thereof.
A quote from the FT. "Brexit is a disaster"
www.ft.com...
Those aren't the words of a person who accepts the will of the majority but a shill wanting to use anything to subvert democracy.
Where in your linked article does it say she is opposed to the democratic selection of government?
Doesn't need to does it? She's already trying to overturn a democratic mandate and if successful then we will be forced to remain in and be governed by the EU. Ergo my assertion is proven.
Her legal case wasn't about overturning the referendum. Ergo you are wrong.
Dead wrong there fella.
She 'said' it wasn't but when you see her real thoughts on brexit it's all too obvious that her real motivation and that of her backers is to stop the UK leaving the EU.
Lots of people think brexit could be a disaster, doesn't make them anti democratic.
The court decided that parliament has too vote on it. Nothing more nothing less.
Loads of people do think so. They don't launch a legal bid to overturn the outcome of a referendum though.
If you can't discern her real motives from her own words and actions, then that's on you isn't it?
She didn't.
Wow. You claiming a Mandela effect now? Cool.
You either missed her court case or it was one of those days that bucky was 2 for 1 in bargain booze.
The referendum decision wasn't overturned. Do you really not understand that or are you just plain making stuff up?
Because you missed it, my contention was that the case was brought with the intention of doing exactly that.
All this talk of doing it for democracy is a lie perpetrated by her and the anti democratic fascist scumbags that refuse to accept the will of the majority of voters.
So you did just make stuff up. Thanks for clarifying.
Unless you can show where the referendum was overturned?
I made nothing up.
I posted what she did and what she said, taken together the only reasonable interpretation is that she does not want Brexit to happen.
If you can't see that, the fault lies with your ability to understand, not my ability to explain.
Has the the referendum been overturned?
If your answer is yes provide a source.
If no then acknowledge you made that up.
Have you gone a bit mad? Did I miss the appeal hearing and subsequent Commons and Lords votes?
Or, have you so comprehensively lost this argument that your only recourse is to talk utter rot in the hope of deflecting from the fact you are unable to refute my statements?
The latter is the more certain, isn't it?
originally posted by: SprocketUK
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: SprocketUK
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: SprocketUK
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: SprocketUK
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: SprocketUK
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: SprocketUK
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: SprocketUK
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: SprocketUK
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: SprocketUK
Those who think the saintly Ms Miller only brought her case to uphold democracy ought to bear in mind that she is rabidly opposed to both brexit and the democratic right of the people to select their government and system thereof.
A quote from the FT. "Brexit is a disaster"
www.ft.com...
Those aren't the words of a person who accepts the will of the majority but a shill wanting to use anything to subvert democracy.
Where in your linked article does it say she is opposed to the democratic selection of government?
Doesn't need to does it? She's already trying to overturn a democratic mandate and if successful then we will be forced to remain in and be governed by the EU. Ergo my assertion is proven.
Her legal case wasn't about overturning the referendum. Ergo you are wrong.
Dead wrong there fella.
She 'said' it wasn't but when you see her real thoughts on brexit it's all too obvious that her real motivation and that of her backers is to stop the UK leaving the EU.
Lots of people think brexit could be a disaster, doesn't make them anti democratic.
The court decided that parliament has too vote on it. Nothing more nothing less.
Loads of people do think so. They don't launch a legal bid to overturn the outcome of a referendum though.
If you can't discern her real motives from her own words and actions, then that's on you isn't it?
She didn't.
Wow. You claiming a Mandela effect now? Cool.
You either missed her court case or it was one of those days that bucky was 2 for 1 in bargain booze.
The referendum decision wasn't overturned. Do you really not understand that or are you just plain making stuff up?
Because you missed it, my contention was that the case was brought with the intention of doing exactly that.
All this talk of doing it for democracy is a lie perpetrated by her and the anti democratic fascist scumbags that refuse to accept the will of the majority of voters.
So you did just make stuff up. Thanks for clarifying.
Unless you can show where the referendum was overturned?
I made nothing up.
I posted what she did and what she said, taken together the only reasonable interpretation is that she does not want Brexit to happen.
If you can't see that, the fault lies with your ability to understand, not my ability to explain.
Has the the referendum been overturned?
If your answer is yes provide a source.
If no then acknowledge you made that up.
Have you gone a bit mad? Did I miss the appeal hearing and subsequent Commons and Lords votes?
Or, have you so comprehensively lost this argument that your only recourse is to talk utter rot in the hope of deflecting from the fact you are unable to refute my statements?
The latter is the more certain, isn't it?
There isn't an argument to lose as you have presented no facts.
The court case did not overturn the referendum. You are simply wrong.
LMAO sure sunshine, sure. And Nicky Sturgeon is gonna lead the Scots to the promised land.
Only David Blunkett would have more trouble reading and understanding what I wrote and quoted than you seem to.
If you maybe studied less Gaelic and more English, you'd have been able to understand that the facts I posted were actual facts, not made up rubbish like the SNP manifesto.
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: SprocketUK
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: SprocketUK
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: SprocketUK
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: SprocketUK
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: SprocketUK
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: SprocketUK
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: SprocketUK
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: SprocketUK
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: SprocketUK
Those who think the saintly Ms Miller only brought her case to uphold democracy ought to bear in mind that she is rabidly opposed to both brexit and the democratic right of the people to select their government and system thereof.
A quote from the FT. "Brexit is a disaster"
www.ft.com...
Those aren't the words of a person who accepts the will of the majority but a shill wanting to use anything to subvert democracy.
Where in your linked article does it say she is opposed to the democratic selection of government?
Doesn't need to does it? She's already trying to overturn a democratic mandate and if successful then we will be forced to remain in and be governed by the EU. Ergo my assertion is proven.
Her legal case wasn't about overturning the referendum. Ergo you are wrong.
Dead wrong there fella.
She 'said' it wasn't but when you see her real thoughts on brexit it's all too obvious that her real motivation and that of her backers is to stop the UK leaving the EU.
Lots of people think brexit could be a disaster, doesn't make them anti democratic.
The court decided that parliament has too vote on it. Nothing more nothing less.
Loads of people do think so. They don't launch a legal bid to overturn the outcome of a referendum though.
If you can't discern her real motives from her own words and actions, then that's on you isn't it?
She didn't.
Wow. You claiming a Mandela effect now? Cool.
You either missed her court case or it was one of those days that bucky was 2 for 1 in bargain booze.
The referendum decision wasn't overturned. Do you really not understand that or are you just plain making stuff up?
Because you missed it, my contention was that the case was brought with the intention of doing exactly that.
All this talk of doing it for democracy is a lie perpetrated by her and the anti democratic fascist scumbags that refuse to accept the will of the majority of voters.
So you did just make stuff up. Thanks for clarifying.
Unless you can show where the referendum was overturned?
I made nothing up.
I posted what she did and what she said, taken together the only reasonable interpretation is that she does not want Brexit to happen.
If you can't see that, the fault lies with your ability to understand, not my ability to explain.
Has the the referendum been overturned?
If your answer is yes provide a source.
If no then acknowledge you made that up.
Have you gone a bit mad? Did I miss the appeal hearing and subsequent Commons and Lords votes?
Or, have you so comprehensively lost this argument that your only recourse is to talk utter rot in the hope of deflecting from the fact you are unable to refute my statements?
The latter is the more certain, isn't it?
There isn't an argument to lose as you have presented no facts.
The court case did not overturn the referendum. You are simply wrong.
LMAO sure sunshine, sure. And Nicky Sturgeon is gonna lead the Scots to the promised land.
Only David Blunkett would have more trouble reading and understanding what I wrote and quoted than you seem to.
If you maybe studied less Gaelic and more English, you'd have been able to understand that the facts I posted were actual facts, not made up rubbish like the SNP manifesto.
What has Nicola Sturgeon git to do with it and why would I have studied Gaelic? You are just typing random nonsense now.
The court case decided who has the authority to invoke article 50. Parliament or the cabinet. Nothing to do with overturning the referendum for the very simple reason that the referendum results did not have any force in law.
I think you touch on an excellent point in that while people are complaining that this an attempt to stop brexit, it should be understood that May is under no more legal obligation to invoke article 50 than Parliament is.
This case simply decided who the authority lies with.
As you know I am every bit as critical of our current system as you are (although our options may vary on the best solution). However I think it is infinitely better that this level of decision rests with parliament, flawed as it is, rather than be entirely at the discretion of the cabinet.
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: SprocketUK
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: SprocketUK
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: SprocketUK
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: SprocketUK
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: SprocketUK
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: SprocketUK
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: SprocketUK
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: SprocketUK
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: SprocketUK
Those who think the saintly Ms Miller only brought her case to uphold democracy ought to bear in mind that she is rabidly opposed to both brexit and the democratic right of the people to select their government and system thereof.
A quote from the FT. "Brexit is a disaster"
www.ft.com...
Those aren't the words of a person who accepts the will of the majority but a shill wanting to use anything to subvert democracy.
Where in your linked article does it say she is opposed to the democratic selection of government?
Doesn't need to does it? She's already trying to overturn a democratic mandate and if successful then we will be forced to remain in and be governed by the EU. Ergo my assertion is proven.
Her legal case wasn't about overturning the referendum. Ergo you are wrong.
Dead wrong there fella.
She 'said' it wasn't but when you see her real thoughts on brexit it's all too obvious that her real motivation and that of her backers is to stop the UK leaving the EU.
Lots of people think brexit could be a disaster, doesn't make them anti democratic.
The court decided that parliament has too vote on it. Nothing more nothing less.
Loads of people do think so. They don't launch a legal bid to overturn the outcome of a referendum though.
If you can't discern her real motives from her own words and actions, then that's on you isn't it?
She didn't.
Wow. You claiming a Mandela effect now? Cool.
You either missed her court case or it was one of those days that bucky was 2 for 1 in bargain booze.
The referendum decision wasn't overturned. Do you really not understand that or are you just plain making stuff up?
Because you missed it, my contention was that the case was brought with the intention of doing exactly that.
All this talk of doing it for democracy is a lie perpetrated by her and the anti democratic fascist scumbags that refuse to accept the will of the majority of voters.
So you did just make stuff up. Thanks for clarifying.
Unless you can show where the referendum was overturned?
I made nothing up.
I posted what she did and what she said, taken together the only reasonable interpretation is that she does not want Brexit to happen.
If you can't see that, the fault lies with your ability to understand, not my ability to explain.
Has the the referendum been overturned?
If your answer is yes provide a source.
If no then acknowledge you made that up.
Have you gone a bit mad? Did I miss the appeal hearing and subsequent Commons and Lords votes?
Or, have you so comprehensively lost this argument that your only recourse is to talk utter rot in the hope of deflecting from the fact you are unable to refute my statements?
The latter is the more certain, isn't it?
There isn't an argument to lose as you have presented no facts.
The court case did not overturn the referendum. You are simply wrong.
LMAO sure sunshine, sure. And Nicky Sturgeon is gonna lead the Scots to the promised land.
Only David Blunkett would have more trouble reading and understanding what I wrote and quoted than you seem to.
If you maybe studied less Gaelic and more English, you'd have been able to understand that the facts I posted were actual facts, not made up rubbish like the SNP manifesto.
What has Nicola Sturgeon git to do with it and why would I have studied Gaelic? You are just typing random nonsense now.
The court case decided who has the authority to invoke article 50. Parliament or the cabinet. Nothing to do with overturning the referendum for the very simple reason that the referendum results did not have any force in law.
originally posted by: uncommitted
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: SprocketUK
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: SprocketUK
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: SprocketUK
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: SprocketUK
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: SprocketUK
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: SprocketUK
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: SprocketUK
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: SprocketUK
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: SprocketUK
Those who think the saintly Ms Miller only brought her case to uphold democracy ought to bear in mind that she is rabidly opposed to both brexit and the democratic right of the people to select their government and system thereof.
A quote from the FT. "Brexit is a disaster"
www.ft.com...
Those aren't the words of a person who accepts the will of the majority but a shill wanting to use anything to subvert democracy.
Where in your linked article does it say she is opposed to the democratic selection of government?
Doesn't need to does it? She's already trying to overturn a democratic mandate and if successful then we will be forced to remain in and be governed by the EU. Ergo my assertion is proven.
Her legal case wasn't about overturning the referendum. Ergo you are wrong.
Dead wrong there fella.
She 'said' it wasn't but when you see her real thoughts on brexit it's all too obvious that her real motivation and that of her backers is to stop the UK leaving the EU.
Lots of people think brexit could be a disaster, doesn't make them anti democratic.
The court decided that parliament has too vote on it. Nothing more nothing less.
Loads of people do think so. They don't launch a legal bid to overturn the outcome of a referendum though.
If you can't discern her real motives from her own words and actions, then that's on you isn't it?
She didn't.
Wow. You claiming a Mandela effect now? Cool.
You either missed her court case or it was one of those days that bucky was 2 for 1 in bargain booze.
The referendum decision wasn't overturned. Do you really not understand that or are you just plain making stuff up?
Because you missed it, my contention was that the case was brought with the intention of doing exactly that.
All this talk of doing it for democracy is a lie perpetrated by her and the anti democratic fascist scumbags that refuse to accept the will of the majority of voters.
So you did just make stuff up. Thanks for clarifying.
Unless you can show where the referendum was overturned?
I made nothing up.
I posted what she did and what she said, taken together the only reasonable interpretation is that she does not want Brexit to happen.
If you can't see that, the fault lies with your ability to understand, not my ability to explain.
Has the the referendum been overturned?
If your answer is yes provide a source.
If no then acknowledge you made that up.
Have you gone a bit mad? Did I miss the appeal hearing and subsequent Commons and Lords votes?
Or, have you so comprehensively lost this argument that your only recourse is to talk utter rot in the hope of deflecting from the fact you are unable to refute my statements?
The latter is the more certain, isn't it?
There isn't an argument to lose as you have presented no facts.
The court case did not overturn the referendum. You are simply wrong.
LMAO sure sunshine, sure. And Nicky Sturgeon is gonna lead the Scots to the promised land.
Only David Blunkett would have more trouble reading and understanding what I wrote and quoted than you seem to.
If you maybe studied less Gaelic and more English, you'd have been able to understand that the facts I posted were actual facts, not made up rubbish like the SNP manifesto.
What has Nicola Sturgeon git to do with it and why would I have studied Gaelic? You are just typing random nonsense now.
The court case decided who has the authority to invoke article 50. Parliament or the cabinet. Nothing to do with overturning the referendum for the very simple reason that the referendum results did not have any force in law.
I'd let it lie, anything you say that questions someones 'interpretation' is seen as lying and delusional.
The EU referendum was not legally binding, a Supreme Court judge hearing the Government’s appeal against the Brexit legal challenge has said ahead of the December court case. Lady Brenda Hale made the comments in a speech to lawyers in Kuala Lumpar, during which she reflected on the upcoming case. All parties in the litigation accept the referendum is not legally binding.
The Scottish and Welsh governments are to be allowed to intervene in the Supreme Court battle over how Brexit should be triggered. The government's appeal against the High Court ruling that MPs must vote on triggering Brexit will be heard in the Supreme Court from 5 December. It will last four days, with the decision expected in the new year. Theresa May has said she is "clear" she expects to start talks on leaving the EU as planned by the end of March. Counsel for the Scottish Government is being invited by the Supreme Court justices to address the court on the relevance of points of Scots law, so far as they do not form part of the law of England and Wales.