Throw Hillary under the bus

Only presidential candidate I ever donated money to was Ron Paul. What we all wanted was for him to be the proxy for our outrage. And what was absolutely confusing to me and many others was his unwillingness to go do a bare knuckle fight against our ruling class. I bet if Ron Paul had said to his followers "Let's start a revolution" people would have done exactly that. But he did the equivalent of barely waking the masses up and left without much of a whimper.

Now comes Trump. A man who doesn't know surrender and keeps going against the seeming odds. And he has the masses attention and won't do an Al Gore on us and surrender the election in uncertainty and self doubt. Trump is a bare knuckle fighter. They tried to tempt him into losing by having him say he'd accept the election results, no matter what. Which reeked horribly of the manipulation and corruption we all desperately want out from under. No, Trump doesn't plan on feeling the Bern from being an idealistic socialist. He, is, going, to, fight...

So they may throw us a bone in giving up Hillary. The reason they decided to test this in the mass media because of potential outcomes. If they give her up to the people's anger then they might have to lay low for 4 or 8 years hoping to go back to "business as usual" as soon as Trump leaves. If they don't, and a civil war breaks out then they could very likely swing from the gallows. Leaders before have said "Let them eat cake" with disasterous results.

But don't fret for Hillary. Her minders will fly her to China for medical reasons until it all blows over. Of course she'd be hard pressed to run for pres at 90 years old.

a reply to: Apollumi

Only presidential candidate I ever donated money to was Ron Paul. What we all wanted was for him to be the proxy for our outrage. And what was absolutely confusing to me and many others was his unwillingness to go do a bare knuckle fight against our ruling class. I bet if Ron Paul had said to his followers "Let's start a revolution" people would have done exactly that. But he did the equivalent of barely waking the masses up and left without much of a whimper.

Either he wasn't serious about the endeavor or he is controlled. No one in their right mind would go into this like Mitt Romney did, with his goodities and nicities. It can't work, part of our political culture is the willingness to push back and be able to explain what a comment like the 47%er's means with out pi$$ going down your leg.

And no I don't think HRC is going under any bus, she holds the electoral college and the .001% to 1% are frightened that Trump may have the ba!!s to do what he said. Tariffs, walls, getting illegals out, wallstreet reform, tax plans.....
They want the status quo and Hillary is deeply ingrained in this system where the rich tip the game to funnel more and more $ in their pockets at the expense of everyone else. She is all that is wrong with the system, and the system will defend her to Nov. 8th period.

The system won't turn their backs on her. (For they do not want to get stabbed in the back)

The rich won't turn their backs on her. (For they do not want to get stabbed in the back)

The criminals won't turn their backs on her. (For they do not want to get stabbed in the back)

The media won't turn their backs on her. (For they do not want to get stabbed in the back)

The welfare class won't turn their backs on her. (For they do not want to get stabbed in the back)

Seems the only people willing to not defend her are the very people keeping the country around- the working class shmucks who already have too many knives in their backs.
Also, the shrinking, tiny population of people left who care only to see government corruption ended.

I've said this before about Bernie Sanders and I'll say it now about Donald Trump. If you support Trump, you didn't really support Paul. Ron Paul showed that he was knowledgeable about the constitution. Trump still has not shown that.

originally posted by: Blueracer
I've said this before about Bernie Sanders and I'll say it now about Donald Trump. If you support Trump, you didn't really support Paul. Ron Paul showed that he was knowledgeable about the constitution. Trump still has not shown that.

Trump knows as much about the constitution as most of his followers do.

a reply to: Apollumi

bus lives matter

stop throwing things under busses - they really dont like it

a reply to: Apollumi


President Obama just Did.....

Hillary Must Fall on Her Sword Now to Protect The King.........





" White House: Obama Doesn't Believe FBI Director Trying to Influence Election "






President Barack Obama believes FBI Director James Comey is a man of integrity and is not trying to influence the U.S. presidential election by announcing scrutiny of additional emails linked to Democrat Hillary Clinton's private server, the White House said on Monday.






www.newsmax.com...

originally posted by: lordcomac
The system won't turn their backs on her. (For they do not want to get stabbed in the back)

The rich won't turn their backs on her. (For they do not want to get stabbed in the back)

The criminals won't turn their backs on her. (For they do not want to get stabbed in the back)

These things have played out in other nations before. The situation becomes untenable and the people react. The only thing I would say, nay I would YELL, is if the # hits the fan your police and military will not all of the sudden change sides and defend you. Search out history, they will beat, imprison, and kill you. They do not want to be where you are so they do their masters bidding without much thought about it.

My point is people don't just lay down and take it forever. At some point the fight instinct kicks in. Before that though is the search for somebody to champion your frustration. Trump is that opportunity to relieve some of the pressure. Because, let's face it, we are at that point otherwise Trump never would have made it to where he is.

So my point is. It is a dice role for them. Take a big chance or give the people a token gesture for now.

The media won't turn their backs on her. (For they do not want to get stabbed in the back)

Ah, the media. Harder and harder to tell them from the national inquirer these days. I think most people feel the same.

The welfare class won't turn their backs on her. (For they do not want to get stabbed in the back)

I ummm, think I know who the majority of those are. I lived in a bad neighborhood in my youth and saw a father back up over 100 of them up with a brick. Very true story. Me, my brother and friend watched it happen. Before you judge me we were just small children at the time. The reason he had the brick backing them up was they had streamed down from their hillside into a park named "Hell Run Park" of all things and grabbed his daughters and began pulling them away. He got his daughters back.

There was "no" fight in them at all because one man with one brick stopped them. Hence the reason they are on welfare to begin with. They have no desire to fight for anything. What on earth are they gonna do? Burn down a gas station while the media plays apologist. I know a lot of people that if the gloves are off would not allow that to happen.

Seems the only people willing to not defend her are the very people keeping the country around- the working class shmucks who already have too many knives in their backs.
Also, the shrinking, tiny population of people left who care only to see government corruption ended.

Well, there you go. It seems you are frustrated. I feel ya.

originally posted by: Aazadan

originally posted by: Blueracer
I've said this before about Bernie Sanders and I'll say it now about Donald Trump. If you support Trump, you didn't really support Paul. Ron Paul showed that he was knowledgeable about the constitution. Trump still has not shown that.

Trump knows as much about the constitution as most of his followers do.

What is your perception of how much Trump or the followers know of this so-called Constitution.

originally posted by: Gothmog

originally posted by: Aazadan

originally posted by: Blueracer
I've said this before about Bernie Sanders and I'll say it now about Donald Trump. If you support Trump, you didn't really support Paul. Ron Paul showed that he was knowledgeable about the constitution. Trump still has not shown that.

Trump knows as much about the constitution as most of his followers do.

What is your perception of how much Trump or the followers know of this so-called Constitution.

Mr. Trump Personally has over 100 Lawyers who are well Versed on Constitutional Law .

originally posted by: Blueracer
I've said this before about Bernie Sanders and I'll say it now about Donald Trump. If you support Trump, you didn't really support Paul. Ron Paul showed that he was knowledgeable about the constitution. Trump still has not shown that.

Let me ask you. Did Ron Paul intend all along to do a whole lot of nothing? When he had the chance he squandered it. Why? Are you saying he wasn't smart enough to understand what the people wanted. No leader wins on purely idealistic drivel. You have to appeal to their limited ability at consciousness. Are you saying with all of his years at public service he missed this one, simple, fact?

I suspect Ron Paul was playing a bit part in a greater play. That or he wasn't what people thought he was at all and was just rogue with his own agenda. He pushed the issue just enough to get the attention he wanted then he was done.

a reply to: Apollumi

" I suspect Ron Paul was playing a bit part in a greater play. That or he wasn't what people thought he was at all and was just rogue with his own agenda. He pushed the issue just enough to get the attention he wanted then he was done. "



BINGO ! And his Son Rand continued the Legacy .

a reply to: Apollumi

I dont think Madam Secretary would FIT under the bus...then again, Donny T's. mouth wouldnt either....
Decisions, decisions, decisions......

originally posted by: Zanti Misfit

originally posted by: Gothmog

originally posted by: Aazadan

originally posted by: Blueracer
I've said this before about Bernie Sanders and I'll say it now about Donald Trump. If you support Trump, you didn't really support Paul. Ron Paul showed that he was knowledgeable about the constitution. Trump still has not shown that.

Trump knows as much about the constitution as most of his followers do.

What is your perception of how much Trump or the followers know of this so-called Constitution.

Mr. Trump Personally has over 100 Lawyers who are well Versed on Constitutional Law .

Good answer

a reply to: mysterioustranger

dont think Madam Secretary would FIT under the bus...then again, Donny T's. mouth wouldnt either.... Decisions, decisions, decisions......

Poop smears, a bus would be fine.

originally posted by: Gothmog
What is your perception of how much Trump or the followers know of this so-called Constitution.

That they know the vague concepts of it, and will readily quote it if it supports their argument, but if it doesn't they'll conveniently leave that part out, or if challenged on that aspect either deny it or dismiss it.

Basically, the same knowledge most people have. Cite it when it's convenient, ignore it when it's not.

Don't forget, our current President is an actual expert on the Constitution, perhaps more knowledgeable of it than anyone else in the government. That hasn't stopped him from violating it or trying to violate it when convenient.

I had a bunch of reasons I thought Obama would throw Hillary under the bus, a long time ago.

Time wise, it was somewhere inbetween Benghazi hearings and Guccifer.

I can't remember all the reasons from before, but they sure are as clear as day now.

As others have stated, his legacy will get flushed down the toilet by her issues. Neither he nor the FBI want America to see the dirty laundry that may be on Weiner's labtop or more likely WikiLeaks.

See, I think there is maybe a deal with Assange where FBI controls the emails, so a foreign nation doesn't get credit for runing an American election. Also the FBI "sanitize" the 650k emails....nobody really wants to see Bill Clinton humping a tranny nor Hillary getting nasty with Huma.

Comey is sparing Hillary by putting her down. He is still Obama's guy at the end of the day.

Hillary will get pardoned, no need to uncork those emails, leaving the minor players to prosecute. Maybe the Huma spy-treason thing will be an issue in the future, maybe she gets pardoned...?