How to measure 35 million Celsius?

originally posted by: Bedlam
a reply to: Encryptor

and it's the daily double!

Thanks for reminding me, i almost forgot

originally posted by: Bedlam

originally posted by: namelesss

I think that your sarcastic (comes from fear) 'challenge' to make you aware of the deeper things in life would be wasted time.

How do you know they're 'deeper'?

Maybe they're 'illusory'.

That's the problem with subjective issues. You can never know if it's just mental masturbation or not.

Everything is 'subjectively perceived'.
Every Perspective is unique, and One with the observed.
The false duality of 'objective/subjective' fails to define two different Realities.
Science used to have an 'ideal' of an 'objective observer'.
Science/quantum mechanics has shown that 'ideal' to not only be false, but impossible.

I go by results. And "revealed truth" topics like religion, under any guise you want to cast it, are generally in the class of things that by their very nature can never produce tangible results. Including meditation and the like.

If you did any homework at all, any search, you would find that 'meditation' has all sorts of scientifically quantifiable practical results.
You are just whistling in the wind, brother! *__-

Still waiting for that big list of subjectively developed technology. The one that shows 'the fallacy of science', you know, the meditation water pump, the chakra-phone, third eye optics and the like.

eta: Oh, and nice shifting the goalposts there. I asked for demonstrable technology created by meditation, not studies about meditation.

Subjective # doesn't produce results. That's the fallacy of 'revealed truth'.

originally posted by: namelesss
Everything is 'subjectively perceived'.
Every Perspective is unique, and One with the observed.
The false duality of 'objective/subjective' fails to define two different Realities.

Yes things are subjectively perceived, but that doesn't mean there isn't an objective. Lets talk about temperature since that's the topic of this thread, though move it down to lower temperatures we are familiar with. I can think of at least three realities that science can deal with to some extent:

1. A calibrated thermometer measures actual temperature in an objective, not subjective way.
2. We know that subjectively humid air "feels" hotter so we report "feels like" temperatures that are warmer when the humidity is higher.
3. We know that men and women have different hormones which probably helps to explain why in every office I've ever worked in, the men usually think the thermostat is set a little too high and the women think it's set a little too low (not counting the outliers like menopausal hot flashes and sick people).

So based on point number 3 I can definitely conclude that the temperature of the office is simultaneously both too warm and too cool depending on what subjective observer is perceiving it. So using your guidance where should we set the thermostat for the office? Science has an answer, do you?

a reply to: swanne

Ok so x-rays. My question is what's the deciding factor for the difference between 34 mill Celsius and 35 mill Celsius. What standard or test do you measure it against to say specifically it's 35 million?

Thanks

a reply to: Arbitrageur

So using your guidance where should we set the thermostat for the office? Science has an answer, do you?

No need for science; I gather you dont have much dealings with the female sex. You will never win in the long run. Keep the woman happy and everyone wins.

a reply to: TheConstruKctionofLight

34 million degrees and 35 million degrees will give rays with different wavelengths.

35 millions will give rays whose wavelengths are shorter than the ones resulting from 34 million degrees.

To be more precise, 35 million degrees will give rays whose wavelength is 8.2 x 10-11 meter, and 34 million degrees will give rays whose wavelength is 8.5 x 10-11 meter.

originally posted by: Arbitrageur

originally posted by: namelesss
Everything is 'subjectively perceived'.
Every Perspective is unique, and One with the observed.
The false duality of 'objective/subjective' fails to define two different Realities.

Yes things are subjectively perceived, but that doesn't mean there isn't an objective.

True! *__- Nor vice versa.
Quantum shows us how there really is no quantifiable difference between the 'observer' and the 'observed'.
Every 'observer'/Perspective is unique every moment of Universal existence!
The absolutely unique perception, for a moment, of Self has to be called a 'subjective' experience; all experience/Knowledge is subjective!
To 'subjectively' Know that which we ever perceive is Self resolves the apparent duality of 'subjective/objective'.
Unconditional Love/Enlightenment/the chrono-synclastic infundibulum... is where all 'apparent dualities' resolve.
That One Point in the center of the infinite cloud of figure eights of all apparent dualities!

"For every Perspective, there is an equal and opposite Perspective!" - First Law of Soul Dynamics

Lets talk about temperature since that's the topic of this thread, though move it down to lower temperatures we are familiar with. I can think of at least three realities that science can deal with to some extent:

There exists not anything other than 'Reality' with which to deal! *__-

1. A calibrated thermometer measures actual temperature in an objective, not subjective way.

Translated;
A calibrated thermometer, perceived by a unique Perspective, at any unique moment of operation, is perceived uniquely.
Sufficient unique Perspectives can form an operable consensus.
Far from truly 'objective'.
Since the 'subjects OurSelf' are looking in the mirror!
All that duality does not represent the One Reality.
Schizophrenia is the (dualistic) fragmentation of that which is One!

'Consensus' evolves with our experience/Knowledge.

So based on point number 3 I can definitely conclude that the temperature of the office is simultaneously both too warm and too cool depending on what subjective observer is perceiving it. So using your guidance where should we set the thermostat for the office? Science has an answer, do you?

I'd set the temp wherever I liked, to my own comfort!
Anything else you do will get most folks mad at you!
If half were too hot and half too cold, putting it on science's middle setting would actually truly satisfy damned few!
And no one would dare touch it!
Grrrrr!!
*__-

a reply to: burgerbuddy

i dunno, but the cook better be the ghost of Bruce Lee.... heh