It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.

Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.

Thank you.

 

Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.

 

The Most Misogynist Man in America

page: 1
8

log in

join
share:

posted on Oct, 13 2016 @ 11:10 PM
link   
I've been posting so many political conspiracies lately that I've had to take the last several days off. There's so much information out there on old and recent hacks(known and unknown) that it's become a bit overwhelming and no longer enjoyable to study.

I decided I'd pull back the reins and post a thread that is closer to subjects that I enjoy studying, psychology and statistics, but apply it to the current political events of the last week.

If you read the title, you already know who this thread is about and there is a reason for that(which is the crux of this thread).

Quick history as of recent:
Trump was closing in relentlessly fast on Clinton in the polls to the point where she was only 1 point ahead, according to RCP. This was sometime around late August/early September.

While Clinton was edging ahead since then, the real turning point for the election was Trump's infamous video. Upon that, came several spots in Trump's campaign that were left vulnerable and open for attack. The primary weak point was/is Trump's misogynist behavior.

I'm not interested in breaking down the context of his leaked audio or defending him from them or the accusations recently bestowed. Instead, I will be focusing on the timeline of these events and why they are important, or better said - why the timeline of the events are important.

What most have failed at seeing in this election is that it is a election that will be decided by one group; female voters.

This election is very unique in that, for the first time in history, we have a woman that can legitimately contend for the presidency. Clinton may very well be the absolute worst and the absolute best pick for a woman to win the White House.

She has a long and credited history in politics, serving in several positions - making her an ideal choice. However, she is also married to a man that has an enormous amount of sexual predatory accusations going back decades - making her a far less than ideal choice.

Here's what the vast US population doesn't know - over the course of the last 40 years, the Democrat nominee for President has always had the majority support of women.



But this isn't the average election, so what to do? She can't rely on party lines/values as she's flopped like a fish out of water. Add that Bill is an apparent sexual predator in the public's eye after(and before) the primary, but still - Hillary is dependent on one thing, the female vote.

From here, she needed to find a way to reconcile the female vote. Many supported her as a woman, many opposed her as she was married to a 'sexual predator'.

The most important segment of this election was/is the female 'gray area'. The overlap between party lines who's votes are in limbo of conservative values and 'women's interests'.

With this, Hillary's biggest hurdle was Bill. Rape accusations, Monika Lewinsky, Paula Jones, Virginia Roberts, Juanita Broaddrick, Lolita Express - take your pick. They all undermine conservative values AND women's faith in their interests.

It's easy to demonize Bill - and it's easy to dimiss a woman who hasn't stood up for herself.

So how is a woman, that is seeking presidency, sidestep this? They don't.

They deflect and reroute blame while creating stalemates.

1. The first step was to create a stalemate

What isn't old news, is Jeffery Epsteins 'Lolita Express'. Bill Clinton has been tied to the flight logs numerous times and Virginia Roberts attests to seeing him on board Epsteins plane with two minor females.

Mind you that Epstein only served 13 months for 'soliciting a minor prostitute'. This came after he donated money to the Clinton Foundation.

In steps Donald Trump. An unconventional politician who beat the other Republican nominees. When asked what he said of Bill Clinton - he said this:



This was an old clip, before Trump was initially part of a lawsuit in June that allegedly included him in the rape of a minor in 1994 with Epstein. While I see no indications of guilt in expressions, it is important to note that his current civil suit supposedly involves a witness. If Trump was involved with minors, I see no reason why he would shine light on Epsteins sick perversion if he knew he could be implicated. Doesn't make sense.

Here's where I have issues. My initial thoughts on the Epstein-Clinton-Trump triangle was that they may have been all involved - hence why the media hardly reports it . However, Trump was only named as a defendant when he was seeking the Republican primary. Originally, I figured that he wouldn't touch this as he may be guilty. But now, I'm under the impression that he is falsely accused as it will harm him more than it would Hillary (even if Bill is to blame). After all, Trump is running against Hillary.

What we do know about the Trump-Epstein case is that the lead lawyer is Casey Anthony's attorney. And if you are familiar with that case, you'll see the conflicts.

Nonetheless. Epsteins connection to Bill and his 20 some flights (many without secret service) have been neutralized as there is now a over 20 year old case of alleged rape involving Trump and Epstein. Trump can't expose that without suffering reprocussions as this case will drag on for years.

Stalemate.



2. Deflect/reroute

So then, NBC suddenly finds a tape on their shelves, 'long forgotten', of Trump being a misogynistic jackass - on the same day as the initial Podesta leaks.

And as new Podesta leaks are revealed - new accusations of Trump's sexist behavior emerge. Sexual assault, walking in on pageant members, reporters being 'groped'. All within 1 month of elections.

Wikileaks, unfortunately, doesn't resonate with the average voter. But class warfare does. Trump had an uphill battle from the beginning of his nomination as he was a male going against a female. The only thing Hillary had to do was show he was sexist, disenfranchise undecided women, and thus the 'grey area' of female votes would go against him - giving her victory.

Trump is the most misogynist man in America, in the public's eye, and there is no way he can turn around the female vote in 3 weeks. The only thing Democrats have to do is throw sexist allegations at him, irrelevant if they are true or false. Men have shown almost equal support between the candidates, but women have shown a strong bias towards Hillary.

The claims against him will resonate tIl the 8th -no matter how much he screams and shouts about Hillary's hypocrisy and Bill's sexual abuse. He has practically no chance to regain support with females before Nov. 8th.

June 2016 Pew Research




And as much as I support Assange, he doesn't have a bombshell that can stop this. If Hillary was able to get away with cheating the primaries, she'll get away with the presidency.

Personally, I find this all very saddening. Even with half the country cheering, this wasn't democracy.

Ghost

edit on 13-10-2016 by ghostrager because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 13 2016 @ 11:40 PM
link   
He may be. Its no worse than the feminist crap I hear routinely in my real life. I cant even open fb without a continual gushing of how awful men are at and about everything. Its ridiculous. Tv commercials, news outlets, everywhere men bashing and saying how women are so much better. Newsflash, they arent. Theres #ty men and women and good men and women.

On the political side, its far less damning than selling national secrets and influence for profit and being one of the point people that helped arm ISIS and overthrow governments across north africa and the middle east.

Not voting for trump, but it sure doesnt have anything to do with his sex life or people that come forward with trumped up allegations right before an election.



posted on Oct, 14 2016 @ 12:20 AM
link   
a reply to: ghostrager

Trump is a misogynist. You don;t need graphs or charts nor made up stories. The true stories more than prove it.

And if 1 person says 'what about Bill', they should just stop answering threads as he is not running for president.

If one more person says 'What about Bill', we can talk about Melania, which I try to refrain from doing as she is not running for President.
edit on 14-10-2016 by reldra because: (no reason given)

edit on 14-10-2016 by reldra because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 14 2016 @ 12:23 AM
link   

originally posted by: pirhanna
He may be. Its no worse than the feminist crap I hear routinely in my real life. I cant even open fb without a continual gushing of how awful men are at and about everything. Its ridiculous. Tv commercials, news outlets, everywhere men bashing and saying how women are so much better. Newsflash, they arent. Theres #ty men and women and good men and women.



What do you do on FB to get all of that? Who are your friends? What sites do you like? I don't get anything of the sort on my FB.
I don't watch TV, but I see some ads on the internet and I don't see that.
edit on 14-10-2016 by reldra because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 14 2016 @ 12:31 AM
link   
a reply to: reldra




Trump is a misogynist. You don;t need graphs or charts nor made up stories. The true stories more than prove it.



And what 'truth' do you have of the alleged stories? IMO, many/most of the allegations are false - only placed there to manipulate the female vote. Ever wonder why they all of the sudden spoke up last minute?




If one more person says 'What about Bill', we can talk about Melania, which I try to refrain from doing as she is not running for President.


Melania is fair game as well is Bill is. But I don't recall her taking 20 some flights on Epsteins plane.....she posed nude and was allegedly a prostitute. Still a far cry from the 'Lolita express'.



posted on Oct, 14 2016 @ 12:42 AM
link   
a reply to: reldra

While you have a point, I do hear alot of democrats saying they like Hillary based off of nostalgia for Bill. I'm not accusing you of that but this is a typical election cycle of convenient positions, on both sides. The sad reality is it's the worst.



posted on Oct, 14 2016 @ 12:46 AM
link   

originally posted by: ghostrager
a reply to: reldra




Trump is a misogynist. You don;t need graphs or charts nor made up stories. The true stories more than prove it.



And what 'truth' do you have of the alleged stories? IMO, many/most of the allegations are false - only placed there to manipulate the female vote. Ever wonder why they all of the sudden spoke up last minute?




If one more person says 'What about Bill', we can talk about Melania, which I try to refrain from doing as she is not running for President.


Melania is fair game as well is Bill is. But I don't recall her taking 20 some flights on Epsteins plane.....she posed nude and was allegedly a prostitute. Still a far cry from the 'Lolita express'.


You say 'Lolita Express', where there is no evidence to implicate Bil Clinton. Yet Trump is actualy named in a lawsuit for allegedly raping a 13 year old girl.

There are so MANY testimonies about Trump now, they far exceed the number of any stories about Bill Clinton.

Regardless, Trump is finished.
edit on 14-10-2016 by reldra because: (no reason given)



posted on Oct, 14 2016 @ 12:57 AM
link   
a reply to: reldra




You say 'Lolita Express', where there is no evidence to implicate Bil Clinton. Yet Trump is actualy named in a lawsuit for allegedly raping a 13 year old girl.


And old Bill has never been named in a lawsuit.....

Yes, Trump is named in a civil suit brought forth by the same attorney that defended Casey Anthony......seems legit.




There are so MANY testimonies about Trump now, they far exceed the number of any stories about Bill Clinton.


And shockingly they all seem to have come out of the woodwork 30 days before the election! Makes you wonder which category of voters that affects?




Regardless, Trump is finished.


I agree.



posted on Oct, 14 2016 @ 04:22 AM
link   
Challenge
Look up the definition of the word "mysogynist" and while at it, "mysogany".

Then

Explain how Trump *hates* women.

He is a sexist..that is certain, but mysogynist is a different thing. its like saying I hate people from Florida...that doesn't make me a racist..may make me a bigot.

Anyhow, final challenge: Explain why you are willfully using the wrong word (mysogynist) when you mean sexist. Explain why you want to destroy the meaning of the word to simply mean "crude behavior".

I dislike Trump
I also dislike people destroying heavy words in order to justify their own stances....if you have to do it, it means you have nothing. use the correct term. Trump is a sexist, not a mysogynist, not a nazi, not a demon.



posted on Oct, 14 2016 @ 05:37 AM
link   
I think Nigel Farage summed it up nicely by pointing out that Trump is running for President, not Pope!


Seriously, all the feigned outrage at some off the cuff comments viewed as "lewd" by the press and their obviously puritan readers / viewers! Hell, ever worked with women in the workplace and hear what they talk about and how they fantasise about some male colleagues or celebrities? I have and, whilst not a prude by any stretch of the imagination, it was sometimes enough to make me blush and feel uncomfortable!

I take it all these expressing shock and outrage have never ogled another person, or passed comment about them to others? Thought not!

The timing is also a giveaway. As many of these alleged "gropings" took place so long ago, why are they only an issue now and were not followed up or reported when they happened?
Of course, proving they actually DID happen is not the aim. The aim is to simply smear Trump right before the election in a last gasp act of desperation on the part of the Hillary Clinton camp. Typical dirty politics and shows just how hollow all the talk is, when they have to rely on smearing and innuendo aimed at the opposition, rather than trying to win people over with actual plans for a better way!

Track records should be taken into consideration as well, but looking at Clintons track record, it's one of abject failure, criminal acts and the destruction of life and property on a massive scale. At least Trump hasn't been responsible for any of that, which is a plus I guess!

Either way, it has become a farce, even more so than previous election cycles, and the US has become even more of a laughing stock on the world stage and resembles a banana republic more each day. A damned scary one at that.



new topics

top topics



 
8

log in

join