Wikileaks Reveals Hillary Was In Fatal Plane Crash Left Unconscious & Bleeding Profusely!

These emails don't confirm that Clinton survived a plane crash. But the first email in the Wikileaked chain (i.e., at the bottom) is a bit of a curiosity, since the original sender says the story 'appears to be credible'. That person is named as 'Les Horn'. I can't find anything relating to a DNC staffer by that name. Does anyone have an idea who Les Horn might be?

The thing that makes me dismiss the whole story is the identification of the SEAL who is alleged to have been killed in the crash. In fact he committed suicide with his revolver while posted in Afghanistan during 2012. See: www.nytimes.com... (Although I have to admit I'm slightly stumped as to why the NYT covered his death several years after it happened).

originally posted by: Box of Rain

originally posted by: Stormdancer777
a reply to: MotherMayEye


I remember hearing about it, but don't remember where.

I thought it was common knowledge.

You may be remembering the Sorcha Faal story that came out about this in 2012. Sorcha Faal is a known hoax site, and this new (and potentially fake) story seems to be directly related to that Sorcha Faal story from 2012.

So you may remember it, but you remember a fake story.

That's possible

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: TinfoilTP

Wikileaks doesn't have Hillary emails. They have DNC emails.
I wish people could at least try to keep things straight.
I mean if you're going to crucify at least present your case with facts.


No one has Hillary's emails or rather since they were turned over by state everyone does.
But there were no hacks to her server and no secret emails plotting to take over and rule the world starting with the USA waiting out there to be revealed.

So if WikiLeaks doesn't have any Hillary emails, this story is fake confirmed by your understanding. Got it, thanks for agreeing this is an attempt to discredit WikiLeaks because of their opposition to Hillary.

except for the fact that its having been forwarded via the Department of State's e-mail system meant it ended up being included among the archive of 30,322 e-mails sent to and from Hillary Clinton's private e-mail server while she was Secretary of State that were released online by WikiLeaks on 16 March 2016.

www.snopes.com...

Well, I don't trust anyone anymore.

a reply to: TinfoilTP

www.snopes.com...

As usual, this was just more of the typical WhatDoesItMean.com conspiracy nuttery, spun around the recent tragic suicide of Commander Job W. Price, the 42-year-old leader of U.S. Navy SEAL Team 4, who had killed himself with a pistol while deployed in Afghanistan a few days earlier. And, as usual, the equally notorious and unreliable (but more professional looking) conspiracy-mongering European Union Times web site reprinted WhatDoesItMean.com's fabricated article about the secret plane crash. The European Union Times' version of the fake article gained enough traction that it was eventually shared by a few U.S. military personnel and U.S. Department of State staffers via e-mail, prompting some confusion and chuckles among its recipients:

That likely would have been the end of this fake article's brief lifespan, except for the fact that its having been forwarded via the Department of State's e-mail system meant it ended up being included among the archive of 30,322 e-mails sent to and from Hillary Clinton's private e-mail server while she was Secretary of State that were released online by WikiLeaks on 16 March 2016. Shortly after Hillary Clinton collapsed at 9/11 memorial service and spurred the renewal of rumors that she was suffering from, and concealing, a major medical ailment (purportedly of a neurological nature), several fringe political sites picked up on the confluence of the 2012 article's having recently appeared in a State Dept. e-mail leak and ran with the notion that the original four-year-old WhatDoesItMean.com fake news piece was true, that it proved that Clinton was covering up a serious plane crash injury that had left her “unconscious and bleeding profusely,” and that all of this had been "verified" by WikiLeaks:

it ended up being included among the archive of 30,322 e-mails sent to and from Hillary Clinton's private e-mail server while she was Secretary of State that were released online by WikiLeaks on 16 March 2016

So is was among the emails

a reply to: MongolianPaellaFish

You dont get US news much , do ya ?

a reply to: audubon

The thing that makes me dismiss the whole story is the identification of the SEAL who is alleged to have been killed in the crash. In fact he committed suicide with his revolver while posted in Afghanistan during 2012. See: www.nytimes.com... (Although I have to admit I'm slightly stumped as to why the NYT covered his death several years after it happened).

That is kind of odd.


Where do these stories come from? When you read this one, remember it is from a foreign source and evidently English is not their first language:

HERE'S ANOTHER VERY ODD EXPLANATION

originally posted by: 123143
I don't know if this story is true or not. What people should be asking themselves is why is everything she does so GD secret?

Because it gets the little conspiracy sewing circle all in a dither, and people just can't stand to think someone is keeping secrets from them. They know this, and use it to their very best advantage. As per usual.

a reply to: wirefly
Perhaps this is a faked Wikileaks document of an already debunked story, in an attempt to deflect and create doubt in the credibility of the upcoming actual Wikileaks dump that's supposedly coming before the debate later this week...
Fits with the Clinton campaign's SOP

a reply to: audubon

Does anyone have an idea who Les Horn might be?

Maybe this guy. Retired Navy Capt., worked for DARPA, scientist and developer of stealth aviation technologies. Weren't those helicopters that supported the OBL mission while Hill was Sec. State some sort of top secret quiet copters????

The U.S. Navy (USN) proposed a quiet surveillance aircraft (X-26) to support Market Time and Game warden Missions. Cmdr. Leslie J. Horn (Les), a senior pilot and graduate physicist on TDY to NARDU-V, had authored a technical paper on the physics of sound and noise generated by an aircraft and so, was drafted/reassigned to DARPA reporting to Len Sullivan who reported to Dr. Mac.

originally posted by: LifeMode
Fake. Would have been major news, no way to hide something like that and she would never put herself in harms way or ride on a plane like that one or be around Navy Seals in 2012. She was pressing an international chef exchange days before Benghazi. This is stupid.

She would also be bragging about it worse than the fake sniper fire.

Not if it was a 'secret' trip. But do you think this is much more believable? abcnews.go.com...

This part especially questionable:

Price died Saturday of what a Defense Department press release described as "a non-combat related injury" while supporting stability operations in Uruzgan Province, Afghanistan.

So he's in Afghanistan, and decides to commit suicide? This was officialy posted to the net on a Saturday, 12/21/12. Later, it's claimed his body was found 12/22/12.

Here's a YT video regarding the ill health of HRC, posted 12/15/12. It basically states HRC is ill, will hospice at home until better.

Here's WSJ timeline of HRC activities for most of the month of December:

Friday, Dec. 7: Mrs. Clinton returns from a five-day trip to Prague, the Czech Republic, Brussels, Dublin, and Belfast, suffering from what officials later said was a stomach virus, which also affected other members of her traveling party.

Monday, Dec. 10: State Department postpones Mrs. Clinton’s planned trip to the Middle East by a day because of the virus. A centerpiece of the trip was a “Friends of Syria” meeting in Morocco on Dec. 12.

Tuesday, Dec. 11: State Department cancels Mrs. Clinton’s trip to Morocco and the Middle East, sending Deputy Secretary of State William Burns instead.

Saturday, Dec. 15: State Department announces that, as a result of the stomach virus, Mrs. Clinton had become dehydrated and fainted earlier in the week, suffering a concussion when she fell. Officials would not say exactly when the fall occurred or where she was when it happened.

Lawmakers said the developments meant Mrs. Clinton would miss Dec. 20 hearings in the House and Senate about the Sept. 11 terrorist assault against the U.S. diplomatic post in Benghazi, Libya.

Tuesday, Dec. 18: State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland said Mrs. Clinton is “on the mend, she’s going to be absolutely fine.” Ms. Nuland said the secretary of state was working at home and was writing letters and emails and making phone calls.

Thursday, Dec. 20: Top Clinton aides Mr. Burns and Thomas Nides testify before House and Senate committees on Benghazi about an independent review that found glaring errors at the State Department.

Sunday, Dec. 30: State Department announces that in a follow-up exam, doctors discovered a blood clot and that she has been hospitalized in New York City for treatment with anti-coagulants. State Department officials would not say where the clot is located. She is expected to remain in the hospital at least until Tuesday.

Monday, Dec. 31: In an update, Mrs. Clinton’s doctors said she is suffering from a blood clot located between her brain and her skull, behind her right ear, describing the location of the clot for the first time.

blogs.wsj.com...

As of early January, 2013, the conspiracy theories were out about possible HRC secret meetings in the ME.

I was kind of feeling the same way. Dump garbage out there posing as wiki-leaked material to blast their credibility. A false flag leak if you will.


a reply to: Elostone

originally posted by: StoutBroux
This part especially questionable:

Price died Saturday of what a Defense Department press release described as "a non-combat related injury" while supporting stability operations in Uruzgan Province, Afghanistan.

So he's in Afghanistan, and decides to commit suicide? This was officialy posted to the net on a Saturday, 12/21/12. Later, it's claimed his body was found 12/22/12.

That's interesting. I can't find a page that says his body was found on the 22nd, but that might be because trying to google things involving dates is always fiddly. Do you have a source I could peek at?

EDIT: Disregard that. I've only just noticed that the NYT story I gave upthread contains exactly the detail I'm after. D'oh! Well, well. How intriguing. Let me have a think about this.

originally posted by: StoutBroux

This part especially questionable:

Price died Saturday of what a Defense Department press release described as "a non-combat related injury" while supporting stability operations in Uruzgan Province, Afghanistan.

So he's in Afghanistan, and decides to commit suicide? This was officialy posted to the net on a Saturday, 12/21/12. Later, it's claimed his body was found 12/22/12.

Maybe the one-day difference was due to time zones? That is, maybe when word of his body being found reached the U.S. it was still Dec 21 in the U.S., but it was Dec. 22 in Afghanistan.

Ah. May have the solution to the 'premature obituary' mystery of the SEAL's death.

Afghanistan is eight hours and 30 minutes ahead of Washington DC time.

It makes sense that the announcement of his death came from Washington. If it came from another US timezone, then the difference with Afghanistan is even bigger than eight hours thirty minutes.

The NYT report (upthread) says the body was discovered first thing in the morning, when he didn't show up to a meeting.

I've no idea what the usual morning routine is for SEALs, but a fomer soldier says they get up before everyone else, and standard military wake-up is at the ungodly hour of five a.m., yet another reason why I am constitutionally and temperamentally unsuited for military service.

See: www.military.com...

So, let's be generous and give his colleagues till 5.30am to discover his body.

5.30am on December 22, 2012, in Afghanistan = 9pm on December 21, 2012 in Washington D.C.

And there's a whole three hours 'slack' in that, so the guy's body could have been discovered at any (Afghanistan) time up to just before 8.30am for it to still have been the preceding day in Washington.

Plenty of time for the body to be found and the announcement made without any contradiction in the date and timing.

So, this doesn't look quite as much of a mystery as it could.

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a reply to: wirefly

If the info checks out to be true in ordinance with Wikileaks, then It would be very relevant to her health concern issues as currently viewed and questioned by various media. Most likely giving her a possibility of seizures,blackouts,fainting spells all are and can be attributed from sustaining head trauma injuries,although i'm unsure as to how long this could affect her health,if she sustained the injury long ago. I don't know if it would affect her health now,but then again I'm not an M.D. so it is impossible for me to to have all the facts required to know for sure. Text Teal

a reply to: [post=21269537]wirefly[/
If it was a "fatal plane crash"...she would not be alive today,thus I call bogus on this information.

originally posted by: queenofswords
a reply to: audubon

The thing that makes me dismiss the whole story is the identification of the SEAL who is alleged to have been killed in the crash. In fact he committed suicide with his revolver while posted in Afghanistan during 2012. See: www.nytimes.com... (Although I have to admit I'm slightly stumped as to why the NYT covered his death several years after it happened).

That is kind of odd.


Where do these stories come from? When you read this one, remember it is from a foreign source and evidently English is not their first language:

HERE'S ANOTHER VERY ODD EXPLANATION

The story was started by the GRU aka the KGB. Thr email is refrencing a report they made. Problem is they got it all wrong. The navy seal commander committed suicide. The Hercules aircraft they claim crashed in fact was fine and still in use. Then there's the fact Hillary wasn't in the area at the time and had meeting the next day. And yes if you were just in a plane crash people would notice. This was just GRU getting false information it happens.

a reply to: dragonridr

Then there's the fact Hillary wasn't in the area at the time and had meeting the next day.

Unless it was...

.... her body-double!

Dun, dun, dunnnn!