A short testimony of homoerotica and sacrifice amongst the music industry's elite

a reply to: Reverbs

Because there is no such thing as the Illuminati. It doesn't exist. It's a name given to people in positions of power by those who are not.

I'm not saying the activities described by higher up music execs do not happen, I'm sure they do - but they are not done due to the influence of supernatural entities. They are done because humans beings are human beings; weak, susceptible to overindulgence and corrupt morals. None of which has to do with a supernatural dimension.

People do not sell their souls to the devil. That's made up, false, a lie. Spirits do not invade the bodies of people to possess them and make them act or behaviour better or worse.

a reply to: noonebutme

I'm assumming you saw the statements by Jerry Lee Lewis? He was in an argument with record producers.. Saying he was going to hell and such.. Demons..

I'm not talking about a name illuminati.. You guys are so easily swayed by definitions.. Set up a false definition and expose it's false, and then say the word that was defined actually does exist of course it's just not that word..

you mind masterbated, and you got #ed.

Anyway, I don't recall using the word illuminati so I'm wondering why you bring that up to me. I've been on ATS for over 10 years, people stop using the term illuminati pretty quick on the path of truth..

Anyway..

I'm only posting in this thread to warn people.
I might be making myself a target all over again.
I don't want to post here.
I feel obligated.
And I'm sorry.

You're here just to win an argument. I see no other purpose for you.
I'm just caught because I meant to edit out my first post and leave, but I messed up, so now I'm here hoping no one sees this that I don't want to see this. (and if you do see this I think it's my right to say it, after you tried to get me killed)

I have more information to tell.
I'm going to wait for the right people to show up.
Right now I'm just risking my skin for no reason.




I WISH you were right.
But then again I don't make wishes so retract that..
It WOULD BE NICE if you were right.

And maybe to confuse you guys. I'm not a christian and have never been a christian. I grew up around some of the smartest people in the world since my town is host to the first public university in the United States. Anyway.. I was a hardcore scientific atheist until this # started.. I had demon stuff since I was four, but like many of you I was able to say that's just my mind making things up.. Well, it's a little different when your little brother is being followed and having death threats, and saying demons are after him, at the same time all that is happening to me 100 miles away, and the kicker was I was told he would be in danger if I said anything.. At the time I had no idea as I had no contact with him. It was later when I went to his house that he told me these things.

Just look at it metaphorically. Say the demons are psychology.. That's WAY scarier than actual demons.

but no personally feel the other being inside you and feel your thoughts mixing together and you don't even know if you're you anymore..


She's not the one singing every line..

Being in the music business myself, I know a handful of gold and platinum selling artist. One artist in particular that I'm acquainted with was one of the biggest names in the rap genre in the early 90s, basically a household name. He mostly does reality tv these days.

Anyway, he didn't sell his soul, and he wasn't part of any secret societies. Not denying sinister groups and wrongdoings don't exist in the entertainment industry, but it's not (from what I've experienced) what you might think.
Most of these artists who use symbolisms (visual and lyrical) do it because it makes people talk, and they think it looks/sounds cool.

As far as demonic possession, I myself do a 180 when I step on stage, or in front of a camera or microphone. My personality and demeanor change from my normal self. I also channel some other part of myself when I pick up a pen to write. But that's just becoming the entertainer, no demons involved. But I do understand how it could be described as being similar to possession.

a reply to: eisegesis

It's not just music. It has been brought up by musians, actors and comedians. Ones I believe to be of sound mind. Katt Williams, Corey Feldman, Dave Chapelle.

a reply to: AntisocialAnxiety

A lot of it is art.

and when I think about that I allow my mind to excuse all of it..

And then I remember something a demon said, and it's in some song.. And it's not something any of you have ever heard.. it's not like "sell your soul to me." IT's more like "what's the place where everything is still?"

I will admit it's common that the sybology is about losing oneself not being possessed..

Like this one:



BUT in that video I see things that give me chills.. It's not obvious.. But if you see a person in a bathtub crying, hahaha... And then she breaks the mirror... "I don't love you anymore."

Rihanna in a bathtub:



she wants him to stay



And if anyone is confused about this next video it's not very subtle..



whether people think demons have a separate existence outside of human minds or not, you can make a deal with rich people to subject this world to hell. I'm dead serious. But I've seen too much.. How would you guys feel if someone or something else was looking through your eyes? And you found out they were by accident.. By burning their vision by accidentally seeing the sun..

Or howabout you go get tased and someone you feel inside of you complains about how bad it burns over 160 frantic facebook messages, and you never told them anything happened.. And it does burn... But I didn't think anyone else would have known. Especailly not someone who dones't live in my country.

I'm actually not sure I'm all me.. The whatever claimed I took part of it's soul by accident.. I wouldn't be surprised.. I don't know if I can be surprised anymore.

(If there is a higher power please don't let those things see this.)

a reply to: noonebutme

Ah but you see...your very disbelief is what keeps the boogeyman away. People who are drawn in by dark forces are believers. The adage about not speaking aloud the name of a demon lest you give it power has some significant merit.

The Dark needs acknowledgement to gain a foothold. If you do not believe the Dark is real, then you cannot possibly invite it in. And it would not prey upon you for that very reason. There are too many other obliging supplicants just waiting to be plucked up.

The true reason why children have long been taught that the boogeyman isn't real is because that denial becomes ingrained and automatic, and it is the best form of protection from the very thing it denies the existence of.

originally posted by: Reverbs
I'm assumming you saw the statements by Jerry Lee Lewis? He was in an argument with record producers.. Saying he was going to hell and such.. Demons..

And? That doesn't mean demons are real.

you mind masterbated, and you got #ed.

Yes but I used your hand, so...

Anyway, I don't recall using the word illuminati so I'm wondering why you bring that up to me.

Because it's the basis of the OP.

I'm only posting in this thread to warn people.

That's fine. If you're warning people and prospect musicians and artists to the dangerous world of the abusive music industry, where people in power take advantage of those who are not, then well done and I applaud you.

If you are doing it from a 'demons and devils', religiously-inspired point of view, where you claim or believe people are selling their souls to the devil in exchange for goods and services then you are doing a disservice and in fact lying to people. To which I award you no points, and I stick out my tongue at you and make a "ppplbbbbt' sound.

a reply to: tigertatzen

Denial of belief doesn't make something 'not real' (I know, poor grammar). The fact that I do not believe in God doesn't make God 'not exist' or true. It's the lack of evidence in his existence that supports my belief.

I could deny believing in cancer or AIDS or poverty or religion but sadly, they all still exist.

I don't believe in Dark forces, demons, the Illuminaughty or other beasties, not because I refuse to believe in them, but because there is no evidence to support a claim in their existence.

a reply to: Reverbs

I'm not dismissing anything you've posted at all. Just relaying my own experiences. There could possibly be a more sinister side, hiding in a darker corner of the business that I haven't experienced. I know satanism exist in the industry. There are bands who request severed goat heads in their riders. Saw that firsthand.

How much of it is show and how much of it is true beliefs, I have no idea. But I've seen some weird goings on in green rooms. Luckily, nothing yet that I'd call other worldly or supernatural.

a reply to: Reverbs

She's not the one singing every line

Can you please elaborate on this? I don't want to try and guess at what you mean...this really struck me.

a reply to: noonebutme

We will have to agree to disagree on that, I'm afraid. Denial is probably not a very good word because it has negative connotations. However, it is most definitely possible to rid oneself of things...including illnesses...by simply willing them away. And people who do not believe in things of an otherworldly nature will be far less likely to experience anything of that kind than people who believe.

I certainly did not mean to make you feel that you need to defend your disbelief or the reasons behind it. It was really just a general observation about the power of belief versus lack of it. People who are truly haunted by something would gladly trade places with someone who is innately shielded like that.

originally posted by: AntisocialAnxiety
a reply to: Reverbs

I'm not dismissing anything you've posted at all. Just relaying my own experiences. There could possibly be a more sinister side, hiding in a darker corner of the business that I haven't experienced. I know satanism exist in the industry. There are bands who request severed goat heads in their riders. Saw that firsthand.

How much of it is show and how much of it is true beliefs, I have no idea. But I've seen some weird goings on in green rooms. Luckily, nothing yet that I'd call other worldly or supernatural.

ok well why the color green?

green room?

Lime light?



If you don't catch the subliminals this song is from the demon perspective.. the words that show up on the screen are mixed..

the last words are

"her favorite color iz green"

wicked which of the west..

every disney evil character with green smoke like scar and the evil witch in sleeping beauty..

In the video light is being bent... to that "3d" look with red and green.. It's the same in eminems "rap god"

Both videos of course mention shooting the moon.

leaving demons out of this you guys have got to start understanding the language if you want to know what they are really saying..

THe above song speaks to me directly.. She's my demon.. I don't mean her, or even that she is possessed.. what I mean is she's saying the same things that happened to me.. Especially the line "I'll drink you down down down till you come undone. You've got the voodoo, I've got a new tattoo you mr black magic puppet till you hit the moon"

Some people are taking things too literal and too abstract.. Too serious and not serious enough. Skip the words, skip the definitions..
The world is corrupt and it's in EVERY popular artists songs.. IF that's your way no need to add demons, it will only confuse you. stick to what you know. fight the power or join it, whatever you want, but know what's going on.

originally posted by: tigertatzen
I certainly did not mean to make you feel that you need to defend your disbelief or the reasons behind it. It was really just a general observation about the power of belief versus lack of it. People who are truly haunted by something would gladly trade places with someone who is innately shielded like that.

Oh, I'm not defending myself in that way - only my opinion. I see what you're saying. I just don't really see it the same way.

Possibly because I'm a glass-is-half-empty sort of person by nature. I don't deny that human belief is very powerful and an incredibly strong function that can help motivate people to do both extraordinary good and bad things. But, I cannot agree on the denial of something makes it less real or less likely to happen.

I could go my whole life denying that volcanos or earthquakes will ever happen. But whether I believe in that or not, they still do, Believing in healing yourself - that's a bit different as the mind is yours to control and a very powerful organ. I fully believe science could explain how the mind can heal yourself of what we think are incurable diseases. I have yet to see that, personally, but I do not think it impossible.

But devils and demons? No. That's an easy way to explain away the atrocities of humans.

a reply to: Reverbs

Thank you for linking to B.O.B. !

Loved everything about checking out his music, watched the blank mafia video and my favorite part by far is when her smashes the TV and lights it on fire!

originally posted by: tigertatzen
a reply to: Reverbs

Can you please elaborate on this? I don't want to try and guess at what you mean...this really struck me.

The very beginning you see the demons constructing the devils look. The actual persons soul is in the white clothing under water.. Remember how I mentioned bath tubs..

at that point "she" is saying "Look what I've done for you"

She sings "I'm going under" that's from here perspective.. when she says that all the demon people are growing in 'demonic-ness'

"I'm going under drowning in you"
"I'm falling forever got to break through."

and then the video goes to here:

I experienced this


I lived through that.

I'm so stubborn.




Oh and you will see the same soul (girl underwater in white robe) if you watch Dr Dre and Eminem "I need a doctor" in the song eminem says demons are fighting dr dre. It's almost identical to the above video.



Here's something fun conspiracy theorists will never pick up on.. You actually love this other power. you miss it.. You feel like you can't live without it, actually you feel like you literally can't live without it, but I found out later that's just how connected your soul is to your body. It comes back in time, but at first it's like ok now I'm a zombie or I can be subjugated and have emotions again.. Hmmm...

Many "Love songs"
are written to that other thing.

Honestly I miss it.
as crazy as it sounds.

I'm not christian even though it sounds like I am. I just don't have any better words than demons and devils.

originally posted by: elementalgrove
a reply to: Reverbs

Thank you for linking to B.O.B. !

Loved everything about checking out his music, watched the blank mafia video and my favorite part by far is when her smashes the TV and lights it on fire!

What other artist gets Morgan Freaking Freemon on his Hip hop track? ? ? ?

A guy who's not even in the public eye anymore?

The song is VERY relevant to this thread and it does have morgan freeman..

"[Intro: Morgan Freeman]
As the war between light and darkness continues
Heroes and villains become harder to identify
Kindred spirits separated at birth
Fighting for their place in time to be solidified
The clock ticks faster and faster
While time runs a marathon in this babylon
But see, the end is only the beginning
The beginning of the calm before the storm
"



"[Outro: Morgan Freeman]
As the mask of deception falls off the face of humanity
Unveiling the grim reality of duality
In which everyone is a casualty, no one will be exempt
Truth has many shades
It's not a matter of black and white, but gray
Although many, we are one, so in the final analysis
Could it be that we are fighting a war that can't be won?"

a reply to: Reverbs

Here is my final answer.

I'm stronger now

thank you "demons"

Can't forge a great sword without fire.

a reply to: Reverbs
To my mind Evanescence are the work of the "devil" - "since when do we teach out children mediocrity is something to aspire to?". Sub par linkin park - and I don't have a very high opinion of them either.

a reply to: jokei

I disagree. Evanescence is powerful music.

Musical taste is a personal thing. But mediocre? I think you're confused.

We can just say I can't listen to the music in your signature.. And it all sounds like the same song starting in a different spot. repetitive and dark, and meaningless.

A wolf with letters on his forehead?

I find that music to be similar to demons in that it's this blocking of flow.. This Digital staccato mixed with the only lyrics i've heard so far "shake your tatas, shake your tatas, shake your tatas, shake your tatas."


That music inspires you?

originally posted by: eisegesis
Here is a short testimony from rapper N.O.R.E. (Noreaga), of what happens once you join the ranks of the music industry’s elite. He remains objective of the Illuminati’s existence in the rap industry and goes on to give a more vague, but interesting peek into the activities you’re offered to partake in once you reach a certain level of fame.

(he shifts gears at 3:10)

I wasn’t looking to expose anything major here, but I still think that these videos are relevant. Any evidence to expose the potential murder and/or pedophilia that supposedly takes place is worth investigating.

I think he's just mad they used him up and got rid of him.

The album cover:

June 1997



And some lyrics:

"We poppin it, kick through door, do-rag and moccasin
You can't stop, Lieutenant Arab
Thirsty to have what you have
Bust a new trade, Illuminati be the new age
Masquerade courageous, loud and boisterous in three stages"

www.azlyrics.com...

Weird?

Bob Dylan even told us about this.