Cathy O'brien -Trance Formation of America

I think I can kind of see what really happened with Cathy O'Brien. There is no doubt she underwent unspeakable abuse. There is no doubt that a subproject from MK Ultra indeed involved the use of mind control in children.

However, whatever the truth is regarding her story is; it has been purposefully
blanketed and rigged with so much over the top disinformation that unfortunately muddies and ultimately dissipates whatever may be at the core of it.

Can anyone find any evidence Mark Phillips was ex CIA, ex NASA or ex anything intelligence?

Is it possible that Cathy went thru more trauma that anyone should be allowed to go through by some very sick people, but through Mark Phillp's
suggestions she suddenly came up with all sorts of fanciful scenarios?

It could be a case of L Ron Hubbard stealing the girl from Jack Parsons.
Or it could be the reason the time and events seem to match is because she really was an abused person who traveled the country music scene and elsewhere in a drugged state, used for prostitution...but that the ability to reason and tell fantasy from reality after she met Mark Phillips was no more?

I have a gut feeling, that while she really did go through unspeakable abuse...and Im sure there have been some sick sides to politicians we dont know about; many many innocent celebrities, performers and politicans have been wrongfully defamed in their book.

I love this blog

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...I'm sorry I haven't time for a proper post today, but I feel compelled to draw your attention to The New Yorker's excerpts from the 1996 novel The Apprentice. Paedophilia, incest, bestiality: welcome to the inner life of Scooter Libby.

At age ten the madam put the child in a cage with a bear trained to couple with young girls so the girls would be frigid and not fall in love with their patrons. They fed her through the bars and aroused the bear with a stick when it seemed to lose interest.

And

He asked if they should # the deer.

(The answer, it would seem, is yes.)

Is it just another dirty book? There's no harm - or not much - in that. Hell, I wrote a book myself that could be charitably described as one, though bears coupling with children didn't occur to me. How about just another disgraced Republican's dirty book? There are plenty of those as well. But this is the long-time Chief Advisor of a man long-linked to covert-sanctioned ritual abuse and trauma-based mind control, prominent features of which are paedophilia and bestiality, writing a fictional account of child sexual slavery and rape by a domesticated bear that could have been lifted straight out of survivor literature.

The New Yorker plays it for laughs - there go those wacky Republicans, writing about weird sex again - but even if this is fiction, it's not just fiction for America's "Family Values" Fascists, is it? There's Bill Bennett's alleged dominatrix, John Bolton's crimes of passion, George HW Bush's much whispered "problem," and far too many examples of "conservative" politicians found with their pants down around young children for them to be "momentary lapses of moral judgement." This can't be answered with "mistakes were made." This is systemic pathology.

It isn't a bad thing to write about sex, even poorly. Or even to write about bad sex. But neither is it wrong to observe patterns of pervision linked to patterns of force, and to ask just what is it that's going on here...

rigorousintuition.blogspot.com...


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Originally posted by Amuk
I don't believe in "Recovered Memories". You don't block traumatic events, if anything you can not forget them, ask any Vet, rape victim, Death Camp surviver, etc.

I have forgotten about most of my past.. From about age 17 down.. I remember a few things that were negative, but most i cant remember for the life of me..

I had what some call a screwed up life.. but wit the F word.. I consider it a learning exp, altho i cant remember much.. so in some cases it is true that some people can forget days monments yrs in thier life.

For those of you who are considering TranceFormation of America to be legit, you might want to look at this link:

www.sweetliberty.org...

The above link insinuates allot and offers no proof (is that disinfo?), other than that Mark Phillips is CIA which is a point he made in the book. It's obviously something you'd be wary of, but again I have looked and believe they are telling the truth.

I'd say for the CIA/DOD it's a very weak game to play giving away the entire deck, and hoping no one believes you because of the horrible stories she tells.

AS for the sex in the book, it's not erotic! As claimed by the article, I almost threw up reading the book Trance Formation of America.

In the Franklin Coverup, many politicians, officials, even the former head of the CIA both publicly and privately did their part to help expose the coverup.
It was pretty clear that at leats on some level, people connected with high positions in washington dc and business were abusing kids at parties.

Notice however, that not one person or organization has really stepped forward(cept guerrilla news network; who have since backpedalled on their endorsement) to back the claims of Tranceformation?

If only the most fringed fringe of the conspiracy and new age circles believe in the O'Brien/Phillips story, that doesn't quite bode well.

We do live in a world where the massive child sex traffic in asia is totally ignored by the US, UN and other organizations...so it's not impossible for out of control unthinkable things to go unpublicized.

But perhaps if certain things could be cooberated, it would lend more credibility to the story.

Some key things:

1) Is Mark Phillips truly a CIA agent or at one time a former US intelligence/FBI/etc agent?
2) Was Cathy O'Brien really married or living with country music comedian Alex Houston?
3) Can any credible persons out there verify Cathy O'Brien was at a lot of th elocalles she describes, be it well travelled in the country music behind the scenes or internationally and abroad? She has pictures of herself backstage at a country music show, but not much else is really known other than
her stories.

and here's the big one:
4) Though verified fact or well reported news, can some of the things they mention in the book(1995) be conclusively proved? And what I mean by that, is just some of the locations, classified stuff, etc. For instance, she mentiones Bohemian Grove. Paul Bonnoci's story is more believable because a 10 year old in 1985 would have had no way of knowing about Bohemian Grove.
Also, were they running MK Ultra experiments within the time frame she gives? Have the backroom policies she describes politicans talking about been implemented? The book came out in 1995, so there's been a decade worth of time to investigate these claims, or at least she if she in fact could have possibly be at some of these places?

Or...as I read somewhere, is it possible Cathy went thru an unspeable abuse by a couple people, ran into Mark who had read the Franklin Coverup, and came up with their own grand opus?

Allot of good questions, I will try to add to them, and answer to the best of my ability.

I agree that O"Brien and Phillips have been relegated to the Dustbin of popular conspiracy land, whatever that may mean. I don't always believe popularity and truth go in tandem. They themselves may be victim of a smear campaign (In which they never really defended themselves online at least), information overload as the over the top allegations come from left field for most, and as explained in one of the videos (O'Brien recollects the public would dismiss most of her testimony as they would have no frame of reference for it).

There is now a frame of reference for those who have been studying history since 9/11/Iraq/Gannongate etc. There is a global snuff- kiddie porn- slave trade, that boggles the mind when confronted with it, but it exists and what O'Brien speaks of is possible.

While there has been allot of evidence which corroborates O'Briens testimony of the Big Picture (ie How things really work) such as the CIA connections at some level to drug trafficked (Gary Webb), JonBenett Ramsey, Bill Clinton and Bush Sr. being Buddie Buddie, that's just a taste of the larger picture, which of course can get into more detail. The links above to the Rigorous Intuition articles are interesting to point out again as well, as O'Brien was right about Cheney's 'big' secret. Bill Bennet she called a sadist, who just so happened to be one. It turns out Scooter Libby like to write about some sick stuff as well. She might have made lucky guesses.

As for GNN from what I surmise, Stephen Marshall (the director of the project)
had spent about 2 weeks living with them, he felt fairly sure they were being themselves (I suggest watching the reactions of the Berkley students filmed for the GNN project). They spent as much time and money as they could, to produce the 'trailer' to get extra funding from HBO to complete the film. The exec's pulled out shortly after seeing the Vaginal Mutilation scene (I do not know the exact reasons they decided not to go ahead with the project).

I am relying on memory here, but I believe Marshall also was able to get a sheriff of a county to corroborate a murder of a bum/hobo at the same area & time frame O'Brien described in the book (The hobo who had his hands cut off by her handler Wayne Cox)

They Claimed US Customs was able to validate her info as well on Caribbean Narcotics dealings.

I'll leave off with GNNs comments in their film treatment

..Though the immediate reaction of most people to Cathy’s story is one of revulsion and disbelief, those instinctual responses are consistently challenged once they have come face-to-face with her. Whether she is speaking from the lit podium of a conference hall or in the serene tranquility of nature, Cathy comes across as a supremely honest and integral soul.

As any person who has attempted to deconstruct the ‘myth’ of her ‘delusions’ will confirm, meeting Cathy O’Brien is an uncannily beautiful and unsettlingly normal experience. Even the most hard-edged skeptic is suddenly left without the sharp dagger of critical enthusiasm that they brought with them. Instead of finding a delusional, attention-seeking con artist, they discover an enlightened spirit who does not crave anything but the innate beauty of human contact.

She is a total mystery.

An enigma of such epic proportion that one cannot help but clamor for either the complete validation of her claims or the absolute dismissal of them. ...

web.archive.org...

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some google searches

don't know how relevant this is now, it was posted 1996(seems interesting),



he documents I specifically requested were medical documents covering
diagnosis and treatment of Cathy's physical scars, mutilations and eye
damage, legal documents demonstrating their struggles with the courts
regarding both Cathy and Kelly, and anything at all he could give me to
demonstrate any single aspect or event of Cathy's story while she was
still under mind control, since they adamantly claim to be "fully
documented." Again, I was assured all of this was available, that it
would be sent to me promptly, and that I would be welcome to share it
with anybody I wished, in any way I wished.

After nearly a month of waiting, I received call from Mark telling me
that the documentation had finally been assembled and it was on the way.

The second documentation package contained the following:
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A color photograph taken of an eye under a slit lamp, with the note that
this showed the damage to Cathy's eye. I had the image checked out
by a certified opthalmic technician, who said that the image did not
show any damage, but that it was a very difficult image to read.

A subpoena for Mark to appear before a grand jury to testify about
allegations that he threatened the President of the United States

A letter from the U.S. Justice department to Mark Phillips advising him
of the reason for the subpoena.

A letter from Henry Martin, Mark Phillips' attorney, to Van Vincent,
Assistant U.S. Attorney, regarding the above investigation

A letter from Bob Clement, Representative of Tennessee, to Cathy

O'Brien, thanking her for additional information regarding Kelly.

A letter from Bob Dole to Mark Phillips telling him that his letter had
been referred to Al Gore.

A letter from Cathy O'Brien to Bob Dole regarding Cathy's and Kelly's
"diligent pursuit of justice".

A letter from John H. Wright, CIA, informing her that there is nothing
available to fill her Privacy Act request for information regarding
herself.

A letter from Frederick D. McClure, Assistant to the President for Legal
Matters, thanking Bob Clement for sharing Mr. Phillips' letter with them.

A letter from Shirley M. Green, Special Assistant to the President for
Messages and Correspondence, informing Mark Phillips that his letter
to Bush and Thornburg had been received.

A letter from Bob Clement to Mark Phillips telling him that his
information packages had been delivered to his office.

Photograph of Kelly, with forwarding address

Letter from James Sasser to Cathy O'Brien confirming receipt of hers and
Mark Phillips' letters and allegations.

"Victim of the System," by Cathy O'Brien, detailing in time line form
her and Kelly's rescue, and the legal actions attempted by them since
that rescue, as well as the institutionalization of Kelly.

Hand written help request from Kelly to Rep. Ben West of Tennessee.

Medical document of Richard E. Presley, M.D, and Stephen M. Staggs,

M.D., containing Presley's diagnosis that Kelly had been sexually
abused.

Letter from Clinton B. Lillibridge, M.D. Pediatrician, to Jack Chapman
of the Anchorage Police Department detailing Kelly's physical
condition and comments about probable sexual abuse.

Hand written notes from Kelly detailing molestation by Alex Houston and
Wayne Cox.

Letter from Cathy O'Brien to "Whom It Should Concern" regarding the
foster care of Kelly and her eventual reunion with Wayne Cox, her
biological father.

A 1986 drawing by Kelly depicting a serpent/dragon creature with NASA
written across it.

Discharge summary of Kelly Cox (O'Brien) from Humana Hospital,
containing diagnoses of Dissociative Disorder, Post Traumatic Stress Disorder,
Bronchial Asthma, Precipitating stress: severe, and Highest level
of function: fair.

Integrated Progress Notes on Kelly Cox from the Valley Institute of

Psychiatry/Valley Treatment Center.

A letter written by Cathy O'Brien to "To Whom It May Concern", regarding
hers and Kelly's victimization, molestation and abuse, and those who
were involved.

Cumberland House Medication Sheet on Kelly Cox

Letter from Cathy O'Brien to Bob Dole again begging for intervention and
assistance for Kelly.

Hand written letter and picture from Kelly to Cathy talking about brainwashing
of Kelly.

Letter from Richard W. Rucker, Tennessee Claims Commission, to Cathy

O'Brien, asking for additional information.

Two $500 checks from the Treasurer of the State of Tennessee to Cathy
O'Brien

Interview Assessment of Cathleen O'Brien from Judith B. Kohler, M.S.,

Psychological Examiner, regarding the feasibility of reuniting her
with Kelly.

Outpatient Progress Notes on Cathleen O'Brien regarding TMJ syndrome

Letter from Mark Phillips to "To Who It May Concern" detailing the lack
of answers as far as rehab for trauma base mind control victims.

At this point, I decided to quit pursuing this matter, publish the
transcription and make available all that I had gathered on them.
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link

Crap, maybe Cathy and Mark aren't so looney with some of their worldwide conspiracy claims of narco and child sex trafficing and Washington:

This is a radio interview recently with Indira Sinh, an advanced IT worker for banks and a wallstreet whistleblower to found herself uncovering and investigating a web of courrption beyond imagination.

www.4acloserlook.com... part 1

www.4acloserlook.com... part 2

www.4acloserlook.com... part 3

I just posted this as a new topic, I'm glad the interviews gertting around.

Yes, it is validating more of Cathy O'Briens info

Originally posted by slave
I just posted this as a new topic, I'm glad the interviews gertting around.

Yes, it is validating more of Cathy O'Briens info

That interview form an insider/non fringe source definately filled in a lot of gaps into what Cathy O'Brien was saying. I still say a bulk of Tranceformation was hallucinary recollections, given I seriously doubt the implications of some of the political leaders and *some* of the situations mentioned.

I think The Most Dangerous Game should be reedited to include interviews with John Decamp, Indira Singh, and other people who can cooberate some of the things mentioned in there through court records and testimony.

There needs to come a time when the subject of child sex trafficking, CIA ocmplicity in drugs and other things is no longer fringe, but mainstream news.

Nice work. Looks like things are gaining traction now. Isn't it amazing how airtight the WORLD media is about this issue? This dialogue is explosive and Ms. Singh is heroic in the truest sense of the word.

I wonder how the truth about who runs the world will affect the average world citizen's viewpoint? It's not just the USA, it's global and involves the EU. We're talking children being smuggled for inhumane purposes here by the people who are at the top of the power elite.
MP3s of this interview can be downloaded from this offsite thread (page 2):

p216.ezboard.com

Be sure that your frinds and neighbors listen to these mp3s.

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I read Tranceformation back in 97' and felt for some time that these claims were just too outlandish to have creedence. Then the reality and the gravity of the heavy weights who are referenced as abusers and controllers were the most powerful people in the land with what were perceived to be stellar reputations, yet no liable suits filed to date. You and I couldn't write fiction about our next door neighbor and get away with it without some legal backlash. She mentions, Hope, Kissinger, Ford, Reagan and Clinton.

A little friendly bump.

Anyone have anymore information on this topic?

Can anyone suggest books etc to read. Am thinking of getting "Trance Formation of America" any others that are a credible read ?

Thanks

Hi,

I would say Trance Formation is a very good book, it like the information on the thread is shocking and horrific, reading it outlines allot on mind control and offers some serious leads. I would recommend her 2nd book 'Access Denied' for more information as to the circumstances of her survivial and healing. It helped me deal with the information without being overloaded with rage.

For another glimpse 'Programmed to Kill: The Politics of Serial Murder' is really well researched. Dave McGowan who's Pedophography series is what the book is based on, detail many cases and weirdness from serial killers, and how the term may be a myth to cover up some ugly covert ops and assassinations, as well as working as a screen to hide a network of pedophile rings and child porn (mind control operations).

'Race against Evil' is a good starter book, written by a former Interpol officer David Bannon detailing his career as an assassin, he worked on the ground level as a 'cleaner' in many countries killing global sex slave traffickers/terrorists/child porn rings trying in vain to stop the spread of these networks. In the end he realized there was a limit to what Interpol would
do to route out those in high places.

those are three that come to mind right at the moment

Many thanks Slave for your recommendations.

I have a voucher from xmas and will be purchasing soon.

here's an old video shot in 1996 of Cathy O'Brien trying to raise awareness of Mind Control in America

link to video:Mind Control Out of Control

I have reservations when believing her story. Some things don't add up.

Not saying the mind control hasn't or isn't happening. I believe that it is. I just don't believe her tale.

reply to post by slave
Response to this 3 year old post: Just like David Icke tried to warn everyone about and now everyone is surprised.

originally posted by: smallpeeps
Awesome post. I had heard about this movie but had not seen any of it. This is amazing.

As for the graphic nature of the footage, you will see medical footage of Ms. O'Brien's vagina under examination, which was carved with an exacto knife to resemble a demon's face by her abusers. This face is shown in the video and the examining doctor gives her opinion on the legitimacy of the carving.

As for credibility, here's Stephen Marshall's bio from the GNN site:

Stephen Marshall
A writer and award-winning director, Stephen is the internationally-known creator of Channel Zero, the world's first global VHS newsmagazine. Distributed in Tower, Virgin and HMV record stores around the world, Channel Zero became an underground hit and one of the first successes of the small-format video revolution. The Village Voice wrote, "Leave it to a Canadian to revolutionize television." The Toronto Star called Channel Zero, "A mind blowing trip, one neither CNN nor 60 Minutes would ever take." In 1997, Marshall produced the provocative series The Electronic Eye: Canada as a Surveillance Society for the CBC's The National and consulted CNN Chairman Tom Johnson on the creation of a youth-based global news network.

Since co-founding Guerrilla News Network in the summer of 2000, Stephen has directed over 15 short documentaries, many of which have been selected for film festivals around the world. In 2002, his Crack the CIA won its category at the Sundance Film Festival. Later that year, he was tapped by Interscope Records to direct animated videos for rappers Eminem and 50 Cent. His controversial music video, Closer, directed for UK's Soulsavers was selected for RESFest 2004.

In 2004, he wrapped production on two feature films: BattleGround: 21 Days on the Empire's Edge, a doc feature he shot, directed and edited about the American occupation of Iraq, and This Revolution, a political thriller starring Rosario Dawson, set at the 2004 Republican National Convention in New York. BattleGround won the Silver Hugo for Best Doc at the 2004 Chicago International Film Festival and This Revolution went on to premiere at Sundance 05. His first book, True Lies, co-authored with GNN's Anthony Lappe was published by Penguin/Plume in October 2004.

Over the span of his career, Stephen has traveled and worked in over sixty countries.

Sorry to necro the thread, but what the #. I was on the fence with Cathy and that totally just validated every thing I've been researching. What the #!