Shanksville pics..?

originally posted by: AsherLewin11
a reply to: RKWWWW

Actually the eyewitnesses saw something smaller crash in shanksville. WHEN they told the fbi what they saw the fbi no you saw a boeing 757 in which they still claim they saw something much smaller.

Purbaugh from Rollock when asked over a phone conversation I had with him 2 years he said that he has been advised by his lawyer that he cannot say the size of the craft that crashed but leading experts believe it was a cruise missile, surrogate as part of the war game exercises taking place over shanksville.

THE crater being v groove ranging to 2feet wide to 15 feet at the end only 10 feet deep and around 30 feet long much too small to have been caused by flight 93 the Boeing 757

Actually there was no confusion withe the falcon exec. What crashed was not a boeing 757.

LEE purbaugh cannot say what kind of plane under court order. ANOTHER eyewitness saw something no bigger than her van all white.

The crater was 2 feet to 25 feet wide as its shape like a cone and only 30 feet long. Much too small to have been caused by a boeing 757 and the crater lines up with eyewitness testimony that it was not a Comercial boeing 757.

As you can see in this image the small crater created on 9/11 was around 2 feet wide at the impact zone which fans out to 15 feet wide 10 feet deep and 25 or so feet long. Much too small to have been caused by a boeing 757.

Show your family and friend they will easily agree without any convincing that flight 93 didn't crash in shanksville on 911

originally posted by: AsherLewin11

originally posted by: AsherLewin11
a reply to: RKWWWW

Actually the eyewitnesses saw something smaller crash in shanksville. WHEN they told the fbi what they saw the fbi no you saw a boeing 757 in which they still claim they saw something much smaller.

Purbaugh from Rollock when asked over a phone conversation I had with him 2 years he said that he has been advised by his lawyer that he cannot say the size of the craft that crashed but leading experts believe it was a cruise missile, surrogate as part of the war game exercises taking place over shanksville.

THE crater being v groove ranging to 2feet wide to 15 feet at the end only 10 feet deep and around 30 feet long much too small to have been caused by flight 93 the Boeing 757

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LEE purbaugh cannot say what kind of plane under court order. ANOTHER eyewitness saw something no bigger than her van all white.

The crater was 2 feet to 25 feet wide as its shape like a cone and only 30 feet long. Much too small to have been caused by a boeing 757 and the crater lines up with eyewitness testimony that it was not a Comercial boeing 757.

It was proven to a jury in a court of law that it was a 757. Let's weight this out. Court of Law v Random guy on the internet that can't source his claims.....mm.. tough one... call me crazy but I'm going to go with the court of law with it's photos of 757 parts, DNA, eye witness testimony, and expert testimony.

Mayor: "I know of two people -- I will not mention names -- that heard a missile," Stuhl said. "They both live very close, within a couple of hundred yards. . .This one fellow's served in Vietnam and he says he's heard them, and he heard one that day." The mayor adds that based on what he knows about that morning, military F-16 fighter jets were "very, very close."

there is also the planning of execution of the 911 attacks detailed in the Amalgam virgo reports but thats another thread i think




heres a link to Amalgam virgo war games exercises used as a cover for the attacks to occur www.ratical.org...

small hole too small for flight 93. That has been proven/

a reply to: AsherLewin11

You ignore facts and will not answer questions.

How did the wreckage, engines, passenger DNA, remains of passenger personal items, and flight recorders end up buried 15 and 20 feet of flight 93 at the crash site.

The best is you claiming no burnt grass at the flight 93 crash site and then using a photo of an Iranian jet crash carter with green grass all around as an example?

Ignoring the fact the position of flight 93 was visually verified in the air by other flights and tracked to the crash site by radar.

The photos of flight 93 crash site you use shows the irregular 30 to 50 feet crater where the majority of the mass of the jet ended up among a large area of lose ground which was part of a wide and extensive debris field. Much of the wreckage was buried upon impact. Another fact you try to hide.

You only rant, will not engage in debate, and use filler to push logical arguments out of sight.

a reply to: neutronflux


The crater was only 10 feet deep and 15 feet across. Too small to have been caused by flight 93.

Eyewitness report seeing a small craft Wizz like a missile then you have war veterans that heard a missile sound and not a commercial airliner.

Then we have war game exercises using cruise missiles, surrogates, live fly hijack exercises etc.

IT would seem that you lack the deep historical knowledge to counter these facts and linking fox news links won't and hasn't swayed public opinion

a reply to: AsherLewin11

Going to answer any the questions asked of you, or just rant and use innuendo?

How about some nanes, quotes, and links to these eyewitnesses.

Still ignoring visual verification by other flights, radar and physical evidence.

Still ignoring the large debris field and large area of lose ground from the jet pushing into the ground.

Quick quote giving actual size of the impact area.

www.nps.gov...

Heavy equipment excavated the crater to an area measuring about 85' x 85' and 27' to 40' deep to recover debris and evidence. Soil removed from the crater during the investigation was raked and sifted by hand and machine to remove debris, then returned to the crater. More than one thousand persons representing more than 70 state, federal, and local agencies had credentials to work on the site.

The whole accout you ignore....

www.nps.gov...
9. How big was the crash site and what did the wreckage look like? The first responders described the crater as about 15 feet deep and about 30 feet across. It was irregularly shaped. The wreckage around and inside the crater consisted of largely unrecognizable pieces of twisted metal, pieces of the landing gear of the plane, a tire, the frames of some of the seats, bits of charred paper, and remnants of luggage and clothing. Most of the pieces of wreckage were quite small, the size of a notebook or smaller. Many more pieces of wreckage, also quite small, were recovered during the investigation when the crater was excavated. Extensive searches through the wooded area south of the crash site, and even arborists in the tree tops found more debris from the crash. A pond about 900 feet southwest of the crater was partially drained to recover debris. Debris was collected from the yards of nearby homes, farmer's fields, and from around a nearby residential lake. The largest and heaviest pieces recovered were parts of the plane's two engines and a piece of fuselage with several window openings. This fuselage piece measured about six feet by seven feet and was found near the woods south of the crater. Lightweight paper items were found as far away as New Baltimore, eight miles away.

10. Did they find the plane's black boxes here? Yes. Both of the plane's recorders, the so-called "black boxes" (which actually are orange), were found in the crash site crater. The flight data recorder was recovered on Thursday, September 13 at 4:20 pm at a depth of 15 feet. On September 14, at 8:30 pm, the cockpit voice recorder was found at a depth of 25 feet. Both were turned over to the National Transportation Safety Board for analysis. (None of the black boxes from Flight 11 and Flight 175 were recovered in the rubble of the World Trade Center. At the Pentagon, only the Flight Data Recorder from Flight 77 yielded information.)

11. What happened during the investigation at the site? The Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) was in charge of the investigation. Evidence recovery teams combed the area in thorough, systematic sweeps. Heavy equipment excavated the crater to an area measuring about 85' x 85' and 27' to 40' deep to recover debris and evidence. Soil removed from the crater during the investigation was raked and sifted by hand and machine to remove debris, then returned to the crater. More than one thousand persons representing more than 70 state, federal, and local agencies had credentials to work on the site.

The large body of investigators and the Pennsylvania State Police who were securing the perimeter left the site after thirteen days, on September 24, 2001. The crater was backfilled between October 1 and October 3, 2001. A six inch layer of topsoil was spread over the backfilled crater area and seeded with grass and wildflowers.

a reply to: neutronflux

Short version for you.

The actual impact zone is the lose ground seen in your photos where the wreckage buried into the ground. The impact zone was 85' x 85' in area and 27' to 40' deep.

The surface debris field was much larger.

Sorry you don't understand the 85 feet by 85 area of buried wreckage is the actual impact zone. The 30' to 50' feet irregular shape creater was were the ground was disturbed the most.

www.nps.gov...

Heavy equipment excavated the crater to an area measuring about 85' x 85' and 27' to 40' deep to recover debris and evidence. Soil removed from the crater during the investigation was raked and sifted by hand and machine to remove debris, then returned to the crater. More than one thousand persons representing more than 70 state, federal, and local agencies had credentials to work on the site.

a reply to: neutronflux
Lol the crater was 30 feet long and 15 feet wide you posted how big of a hole they dug out with machines. Genius...
The small crater of 15 feet wide and 30 feet long has been proven to be too small to have been caused by flight 93 which is over 123 feet wide and over 43 feet tall.

a reply to: AsherLewin11

Another image of the small 15 foot wide hole only 6-10 feet deep.

a reply to: AsherLewin11

Sorry, flight 93 impacted at an angle, nose right wing first. The items that ejected from the violent crash created a large debris field. The rest of the wreckage created an impact zone 85 feet by 85 feet wide in area, and up to 40 feet deep. The item you label crater, which you do not ever cite a source for your incorrect dimensions, was only the entry point for a more dense mass of buried wreckage.

a reply to: AsherLewin11

en.m.wikipedia.org...
Note 71: ^ "'None of us will ever forget'". Seattle Post-Intelligencer. September 12, 2001. Retrieved August 24, 2008

The impact left a crater eight to ten feet deep (c. 3 m), and 30 to 50 feet wide (c. 12 m).[71]

originally posted by: AsherLewin11
a reply to: neutronflux
Lol the crater was 30 feet long and 15 feet wide you posted how big of a hole they dug out with machines. Genius...
The small crater of 15 feet wide and 30 feet long has been proven to be too small to have been caused by flight 93 which is over 123 feet wide and over 43 feet tall.

The impact zone was 85 feet by 85 feet wide. Up to 40 feet deep.

Sorry, but the soil type was prone to allowing the ground to swallow up the wreckage than being carved out.

To not accurately give the crater dimensions, and not state the a actual area and depth of impact, is to willingly ignore the actual extent and true nature of the impact zone.

hey mister we're talking 172 feet wingspan...go on...a reply to: neutronflux

a reply to: neutronflux


Your running list of unaddressed issues that your narrative fails to explain......


Because you ignore the buried wreckage, the characters of the soil composition at Shanksville, and the characters of high speed crashes, all you have is that you don't like the crater?

Did the Iranian jet hit the same way as flight 93? Nose and right wing first? Was there a debris field proving the crashes were similar?

Are you saying no personal items recovered from the Iranian crash?

There is lots of green and unburt grass around the Irianian crater? Was it a conspiracy too?

How did all the wreckage, DNA, and personal items end up at the flight 93 crash site? Right number of engines and correct nomenclature.

How did the flight recorders end up at the site buried 15 and 25 feet deep.

What created the fire damage and extensive debris field of passenger plane wreckage.

Where did flight 93 and the passengers end up in your false narrative.

Ignoring that the position of flight 93 was visually verified by other flights and tracked by radar to the crash site.

Your flight 93 photo of the person standing by the crater? You failed to notice the large grass free area of lose soil that shows the true extent of the impact and were much of the wreckage was buried do to force of impact.

How did passenger jet wreckage end up buried in a 85 feet by 85 feet area, and up to 40 feet deep?

a reply to: GBP/JPY

Its been answered.

One, plane hit at an angle. Nose and right wing first.

Two, how big was the surface debris field?

Three, why is there not honesty among the movement on the extent of buried wreckage and the surface debris field?

hey mister we're talking 172 feet wingspan...go on...a reply to: neutronflux

a reply to: GBP/JPY


Wingspan of Boeing 757 is 125 ft (actually 124 ft 10 in)

thanks, man
neutron, baby.... you've got be more pro-active in then detail back-and-forth. stuck in one chord like....or sleepy reply.....it's as if you're a machine

Unfortunately, the truth about 9-11 won't be widely accepted for a while yet. Just look at how long it's taken for the 'media' to spread the word on how corrupt this government is! People don't want to research things out. They want it spoonfed to them with all those pretty hypnotizing banners waving around in the background on every news network.

Anyone who believes 4 passengers planes carrying 200 human beings crashed that day, is either brainwashed, brain dead or paid shills. The last speaks for itself regarding this thread.z

a reply to: Human_Alien

Classic conspiracy believer cliches