Can a vegan go into anaphylactic shock if...

a reply to: TiredofControlFreaks

I think she was just being a pretentious woman, which is far too common where i live.

I haven't purposely eaten beef in almost 2 years now. Once I was told a beef hotdog was a pork hotdog and ate it, all I got was a stomach ache, headache and slept the rest of the day.

enlightenedservant

I was given beef (told it was a pork hotdog) after over 6 months of no beef in my system and the same happened to me. it was similar to a stomach virus hahahah

a reply to: oblivvious

That sucks. I never intended to stay away from meat this long, and always assumed I'd try it again somewhere down the road. But I reeeeeally don't want to go through that again. Though it didn't happen when I took a break from chicken. So if/when I finally eat meat again, maybe I'll avoid the heavier meats.

a reply to: oblivvious

There is a verifiable thing where you can get a tick borne illness that will make you allergic to beef, but it tends to make you allergic to red meats in general.

originally posted by: oblivvious
a reply to: intrptr

It's not something I'm afraid of personally, but a customer on my last night as a waitress made me go back to the kitchen to see if any animal by-product or what have you was in contact with her food.. She told me she'd go into anaphylactic shock if she had any butter or meat

You can be allergic to meat, but that's an allergy. She isn't going to go into anaphylaxis just because she decided to be vegan.

So either she had the allergy and decided to tell you about it in the crappiest way possible by making it sound like her veganism was to blame, or she was actually a vegan by choice and might feel ill after eating animal products for a variety of reasons but not because she is actually diagnosed as allergic to them and just calls it anaphylaxis to get scare value in and make sure her diet is followed.

a reply to: ketsuko

I'm fairly certain she just said it to make sure she got what she wanted.. which since it's a diner, were fries cooked in the same grease as certain meats, and a patty cooked on a stove where everything else is done... There aren't any "vegan" counters set aside for things like that.. when there's an allergy the necessary steps are taken, but again... a diner that specializes in very non-vegan friendly foods..

originally posted by: TiredofControlFreaks
a reply to: oblivvious

Anaphalactic shock is triggered by an allergy to protein. A pat of butter has no protein. Therefore, no anaphalactic shock.

Goat grease may be contaminated by a protein but you would have to first be allergic to goat.

Tired of control freaks

A pat of butter absolutely has milk proteins. As someone who does go into anaphylaxis from dairy, I can 100% attest to this. It's why I'm no longer a chef.

I try not to freak out over my fried foods mixed in with others.

I understand this the world we live in, and just deal with it.

It's not a matter of sanctimony, meat is just gross.

a reply to: phiche1

Yes, but the question is how likely it is that she was allergic enough to proteins of all types to force that level of allergic reaction ... so much so that she was forced into a vegan lifestyle.

It's one thing to have an allergic reaction of that sort of an animal protein, but to all of them?

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: phiche1

Yes, but the question is how likely it is that she was allergic enough to proteins of all types to force that level of allergic reaction ... so much so that she was forced into a vegan lifestyle.

It's one thing to have an allergic reaction of that sort of an animal protein, but to all of them?

that's a fair statement. Technically, if you're allergic to milk, for example, you wouldn't necessarily be allergic to sheep's milk because it's a different milk protein. You'd have to be allergic to both proteins to have an issue with both.

Thankfully, that means I can still have manchego

Dairy, maybe she had a lactose intolerance... meat allergy? I don't know about that. a reply to: oblivvious

a reply to: phiche1

Sorry - of course you are correct. I was wrong.

Tired of Control Freaks

originally posted by: oblivvious
a reply to: intrptr

It's not something I'm afraid of personally, but a customer on my last night as a waitress made me go back to the kitchen to see if any animal by-product or what have you was in contact with her food.. She told me she'd go into anaphylactic shock if she had any butter or meat

I would say the woman should not being eating out at diners if she is predisposed to get ill when eating certain foods, one would put that down to common sense...

Just tell her next time everything is cooked in pig fat, she should leave fairly quickly and never return

a reply to: oblivvious

I don't think the meat itself can cause such a reaction, but I believe dairy can for some people, but not butter.. that sounds unlikely.

I think hormones in meat can cause reactions but maybe not anaphylactic shock.

Anaphylactic shock is more common w things like seafood or nuts.

a reply to: oblivvious

I see. I was wrong in my earlier assessment of whether people go into shock from meat. So thanks for starting the thread, I learned something new.

As far as restaurants, I don't eat there anymore. In another life I used to scrap out restaurant kitchens for the stainless steel. You would not believe what I have seen in, under and around some major appliances. I also had a friend that used to be an exterminator for big chain hotels... the stuff he saw in kitchens was horrific, too.

a reply to: ketsuko

What those people in India experienced was likely something more along the lines of the same sort of illness through revulsion you or I might experience when we see another get violently ill and have to somehow interact with it. Maybe you are different, but that always makes me feel sick.

Yeah, well the army broke me of that when they made me the BDE (brigade) CBRN (chemical biological radioactive & nuclear) NCO for 1 1/2 yrs. I had to sit in the gas chambers and conduct training (usually without a mask) while dispensing CS gas (tear gas). The really fun thing (sick side of me I know) is tricking everyone into loading up on sweets earlier in the day before they know about the training.