Little, Non-Breaking And Zero News About Recent 4.6 and 4.8 Wyoming Earthquakes

When it comes to Yellowstone, you guys know I take it very seriously. So when threads pop up that try to tie multiple, non-related events together to culminate in a doom porn fest, I suppose it is time to act. Not because I have to, or even need to- just because I want to.

I have written my scientific contacts, and gotten a response.

There is absolutely no truth whatsoever to rumors of increased gas emissions of any kind emanating directly from the Yellowstone volcano.

And I have that on good authority, I can just say that. Because I checked.

Recent quakes in Wyoming were normal faulting quakes in places far removed from the volcano. That crack in the ground was way far away.

People need to get a grip. There are entire teams of scientists devoted to monitoring the park. They are PAID to do it. They are professionals, and have every vested interest and careers riding on that research, not to mention thousands of lives.

Let's stick with the facts people. As usual my friends here can count on me to monitor the park and deliver any news. You know when I speculate, and you know I try to keep that speculation within reasonable boundaries, based on fact. And the facts are, zero truth to rumors of increased emissions, and nearly zero seismicity. Ground deformation: subsiding- in other words, the caldera is dropping again. No swarms to speak of in years.

Rest easy my brethren. I got your backs. If things got any quieter at Yellowstone, the public is going to start demanding the dismantling of the YVO. Jesus. I'm hoping a swarm comes along here soon, so at least they can somewhat validate their employment. THAT is how quiet the park has been lately. There is absolutely nothing going on there other than the usual.

In the meantime, some interesting things are happening at Mt. St. Helens, which I have been seeing on my spectrographs. I may make a post about it soon.

a reply to: TrueAmerican

Although I'm not disagreeing with you TA, I highly doubt that they would come out with any sort of public announcement about it for several reasons... one being that tourism at Yellowstone is up more than ever right now and they don't want to scare the several million visitors per summer. I'm thinking that if things were off at Yellowstone, they'd wanna keep it under wraps until they could be real damn certain something truly was threatening, and even then, how long before we'd hear anything about it.

Very cool. I just received a follow up email with even more info. I can't share it verbatim because, well, I just can't, but I will give you the gist of it.

Gas emissions at volcanoes are a difficult thing to monitor, because technology is really just beginning to develop for long term time series data to be provided online. The fact is that the sensors they use for monitoring are notoriously unreliable and drift off calibration extremely easily, and often. Therefore instead, scientists are still for the most part stuck with doing repeated measurements in the field for any kind of reliable data.

And again on very good authority I have it that these field tests have been, and are continuously being done at Yellowstone- with zero reported anomalies being found. I also now know for a fact that if any anomalies in emissions WERE detected, they would indeed be mentioned in the updates. This is comforting to know.

And now you know it too. So take comfort in that.

a reply to: TrueAmerican

Is this in regards to the high level of carbon monoxide that was reported?

originally posted by: Rezlooper
a reply to: TrueAmerican

Although I'm not disagreeing with you TA, I highly doubt that they would come out with any sort of public announcement about it for several reasons... one being that tourism at Yellowstone is up more than ever right now and they don't want to scare the several million visitors per summer. I'm thinking that if things were off at Yellowstone, they'd wanna keep it under wraps until they could be real damn certain something truly was threatening, and even then, how long before we'd hear anything about it.

Rez, do you understand what would happen to these people if there were anomalies detected in the data and they hid that data from the public? Do you? THINK about what you are suggesting, and reign in your paranoia, for Christ's sakes.

They'd be frigging crucified. There is no way in hell they'd do that. Not now, not then, not in the future, not ever.

You obviously must not have any real scientific contacts. I do. And have had conversations for over ten years with many. Please get a grip man. For your own good. The world is not one big conspiracy. Parts of it might be, but I can assure you these people have way more riding on what they say and do when it comes to Yellowstone, than you or me EVER will. It is not a game to them. It is not speculation. It is serious, serious business.

I am just curious and am not quite a layman on this topic... so I can claim a lot of ignorance.

With that said... isnt there evidence of previous calderas of Yellowstone that shows the movement of the crust? Wouldn't the next Yellowstone event not be in the current Caldera location but more in line with the previous ones at a different location?

a reply to: TrueAmerican

Earthquake activity worldwide has increased immensely. Volcanic activity as well. Methane and CO2 levels in the atmosphere reaching beyond the point of no return. Global temperature records being smashed month after month. It's not a conspiracy... it's fact! I'm no Yellowstone expert, just trying to pay attention and like I said, I don't disagree with you. I don't think Yellowstone is a threat but it should be a concern because yes, volcanoes are waking up all over the world right now. Do you deny that?

a reply to: Rezlooper

Well, here's what Volcano Discovery says:

Has worldwide volcanic activity been increasing recently?
We sometimes are being asked if the number of currently active volcanoes and ongoing erruptions, or global volcanic activity, has been increasing recently. Should we be worried "globally"?
The current level of volcanic activity is completely normal, on the contrary (if not on the low end of averages over decades).
The main difference is that there is faster and more information available, as well as increased media coverage and public interest on the subject of global volcanic activity. This might give the impression that volcanic activity is on the increase (which it is not).
So, we should not be worried by global volcanic activity.

www.volcanodiscovery.com...

Many explanations have been proposed for volcanic activity increase/decrease, and among them:
www.washingtonpost.com... a3e4a9

A study published in the journal Terra Nova in February showed that, since the early 19th century, changes in the Earth’s rotation rate tended to be followed by increases in global volcanic activity. It found that, between 1830 and 2013, the longest period for which a reliable record was available, relatively large changes in rotation rate were immediately followed by an increase in the number of large volcanic eruptions. And, more than merely being correlated, the authors believe that the rotation changes might actually have triggered these large eruptions.

Altering the spin of a planet, even by a small amount, requires a huge amount of energy. It has been estimated that changes in the Earth’s rotation rate dissipate around 120,000 petajoules of energy each year – enough to power the United States for the same length of time. This energy is transferred into the Earth’s atmosphere and subsurface. And it is this second consequence that the Terra Nova authors believe could affect volcanoes.

The vast quantities of energy delivered to the subsurface by rotation changes are likely to perturb its stress field. And, since the magma that feeds volcanic eruptions resides in the Earth’s crust, stress variations there may make it easier for the liquid rock to rise to the surface, and thereby increase the rate of volcanic eruptions.

Climate change has also been proposed as a possible cause. I still question though if it's really any worse than previous years, or previous eras. I mean hell, look at Krakatoa, Tambora, Toba, Laki, etc. Those were pretty damn bad. And worse, I contend, than any eruption going on in recent times. Although, lookout- Katla has apparently been getting big quakes and swarms again. That could be real bad if it erupted big, and scientists believe it may be overdue.

But wait, we digress. My purpose here was specifically to deal with Yellowstone and the false rumors being spread about gas emissions. Hopefully this thread will help put an end to that.

a reply to: TrueAmerican

Fair enough. But I ask again, in regards to emissions, are you talking about the carbon monoxide or both CO and CO2?

a reply to: Rezlooper

The way it was put to me was there were zero anomalous emissions of any kind, including all gas types at last testing. Remember what was said about the unreliability of long term, online sensors? That could be a factor in the readings you pulled off the web, bigtime. And most of those gas reading pages warn you right there on the page about that unreliability.

a reply to: TrueAmerican

Thanks, was wondering that myself, the unreliability.

Don't know if I can report the sites name, or link it, but at another forum I frequent, a persons 4 y/o grandson who lives in a west Yellowstone town nearly died the other day (8-29-16) from a carbon monoxide poisoning spike there. He wouldn't wake up, and his CO levels were 10. Her daughter was told to keep it quiet so not to cause panic.

She had a phone meeting with the county commissioner's underling about this although she wanted to speak to the commissioner himself. She is calling governors and everyone else imaginable.

Anyways, no CO was found inside their home. At the same time he was rushed to the hospital, there was a massive spike on some chart. It went from 26 to 472 and she calls it her smoking gun. I guess I can link to the picture since it is on a pic sharing site. This was found after the ordeal was over and backs up her account.

her grandsons co spike time

Another chart

thanks elouina for that report that's exactly the sort of thing we visit these sites for

just last week the quake hit Italy and at the same time a 6.8 in Myanmar, and a few days later a 7.1 near Ascension Island. and there have been sporadic outbreaks in the Caribbean.

hard to believe it's not all interrelated.
between Yellowstone, Cascadia and New Madrid we in the US need to keep our eyes and ears open.

a reply to: TrueAmerican

The fact is that the sensors they use for monitoring are notoriously unreliable and drift off calibration extremely easily, and often.

True story.... was selling my sons trombone a few years back. Well, 4 years to be exact and the man I sold it to was from the University of Alabama. He was pretty cool with some cool stories. He told me pretty much what I quoted above. Lots more research needed to tell exactly when an eruption will happen. They are working on it though, this is for sure.

Here is the link to this guy .... Jonathan Stone. uanews.ua.edu...

Stone’s research could one day make evacuation plans more accurate for people living in the shadow of an active volcano. Scientists could determine when an eruption would take place and estimate the magnitude of danger it would bring to neighboring areas, likely saving lives.