Is Atheism just an Antichristian Religion?

a reply to: BuzzyWigs

The golden rule, it's interesting how some say that's a great ideal
Then in another thread they call for viruses to thin the population out

Another bubonic plague, yeah that would be nice

The golden rule, yet some would like to end all religions and install an atheistic regime, reminiscent of Stalin, Mao, pol pot

It beggars belief

Okay ----- so....
what?

It isn't wise? Because no one recorded it 2000 years ago?

I disagree. I do not value archaic mindsets and superstitions above actual thoughts and modern philosophy.

Humans evolve. Society evolves. And that's how it's supposed to be. Some humans don't like it one tiny bit, but that does not mean that it isn't necessary.

Human evolution. Collective cognizance. Genetic memory. The rebirth of souls ------

reincarnating and going on to the next class level (Reality 501, if you will).....


If you (dear reader) don't understand what I'm talking about, that's okay.
It takes some abstract thinking that is only developed over many years of study, contemplation, experience, and introspection to have the insight necessary to accept the vastness of the universe.

Atheism is a lack of belief and there is no- one atheist world view.
It's ironic when you get a bunch religious folk together and they prattle along about religion it terms of derision, when it comes to atheism. It's time the zealots stopped judging atheist and scientists by their own gutter standards.

a reply to: Raggedyman

If I or my children or loved ones were incapacitated due to chronic illness, accident, starvation, whatever.....

I would not want them to have their suffering prolonged. Likewise, I would not want extraordinary measures to be taken to keep my physical body alive. I am not afraid of death. Death is, for some, a welcome transition.
But --- I don't expect you to believe that.

Yet - go ahead, trust in Jesus ------ and don't have your kids vaccinated, and if they are born severely disabled, by all means keep them alive for as many decades of vegetative existence can be eeked out by medical experts.....

quality of life be damned!!

I will stand behind my statement: nature manages to cull the population by whatever means. Why does no one who believes in "God" want to accept that?

So ---- No, thanks. There are many things worse than death. Keeping an otherwise incapacitated "human" alive when there is no hope they will ever be able to function as a "normal" (means 'healthy and aware') human (even - and especially - if it's I who will never be well again!) ..... to artificially prolong an otherwise lost life is SELFISH.

Now --- kindly piss off.
Cheers.

originally posted by: Raggedyman
a reply to: Ghost147

Ghost
Go google why atheism is a religion

Why are you so against posting links and articles?

Go google why atheism is not a religion.

There, I can play this game too. You act as if having the opposition do your research for you is going to enlighten them and accept your position.

originally posted by: Raggedyman
a reply to: Ghost147
Nothing I say will make you think you are a zealot to your beliefs

If you were to actually provide evidence to support your position, I am more than willing to change mine and accept yours.

a reply to: skynet2015

I really wish that both athiests and religious people would just avoid discussing their views if it is with someone they know that is going to disagree with them. It is an exhausting argument to have. And kind of fruitless and a believer will never sway a non believer and vice versa. I guess its ok to try if one feels compelled to, but the outcome is almost invariably nasty.

a reply to: Ghost147

Wow look at that two opposing views.
I an aware of both views, I hear yours, I also accept many atheists are not religious, have seen some that are

I have asked for evidence before but not received any
Believe, dont, its not an issue to me

Its not a concern what you think, I know what I think causes you issues though

a reply to: BuzzyWigs

Neither would I, yet you wished plagues to thin the population out, untold pain and suffering on people.

Its not about Jesus, its not about extending life

Its about live and let live, do unto others and you called plagues on humanity to depopulate

Anything but deal with your own comments buzz, bring Jesus in to the argument, bring euthanasia, whatever you think will deflect

You wished plagues to thin the population out, its not about euthanasia.
You know that as well as I

want me to find your quote, Its not going to be difficult, I know you removed it but I had already caption quoted it


Do unto others, call down a plague, how biblical of you.

You wished plagues to thin the population out, its not about euthanasia.

originally posted by: Raggedyman
a reply to: Ghost147
Wow look at that two opposing views.
I an aware of both views, I hear yours, I also accept many atheists are not religious, have seen some that are

Me too, they're called Buddhists. But you're likely not referring to them, because you think that Atheism is a religion somehow.

originally posted by: Raggedyman
a reply to: Ghost147
I have asked for evidence before but not received any
Believe, dont, its not an issue to me

You've received plenty, you just seem to ignore those posts.

originally posted by: Raggedyman
a reply to: Ghost147
Its not a concern what you think, I know what I think causes you issues though

The only issue I have with what you think is that you spread misinformation to others. If it was just a personal conjecture of yours, believe whatever you want, and it really has no effect on me.

originally posted by: Ghost147

originally posted by: Raggedyman
a reply to: Ghost147
Wow look at that two opposing views.
I an aware of both views, I hear yours, I also accept many atheists are not religious, have seen some that are

Me too, they're called Buddhists. But you're likely not referring to them, because you think that Atheism is a religion somehow.

originally posted by: Raggedyman
a reply to: Ghost147
I have asked for evidence before but not received any
Believe, dont, its not an issue to me

You've received plenty, you just seem to ignore those posts.

originally posted by: Raggedyman
a reply to: Ghost147
Its not a concern what you think, I know what I think causes you issues though

The only issue I have with what you think is that you spread misinformation to others. If it was just a personal conjecture of yours, believe whatever you want, and it really has no effect on me.

Maybe I did get it wrong, maybe atheism is not a religion but
There are atheists who have made atheism a religion and idolise it as a deity, happy?

In the same way, christianity is not a religion.

Never received evidence, just assumptions and conjecture, whale pelvis bones and crickets that breath underwater, yeah right

If my opinion was no concern then why reply, why reply in the manner you do

originally posted by: Raggedyman
Maybe I did get it wrong, maybe atheism is not a religion but
There are atheists who have made atheism a religion and idolise it as a deity, happy?

It's certainly an improvement. But I still don't understand how a person can idolize atheism as a deity, or make it into a religion. Could you explain?

originally posted by: Raggedyman
In the same way, christianity is not a religion.

You've lost me.

originally posted by: Raggedyman
Never received evidence, just assumptions and conjecture, whale pelvis bones and crickets that breath underwater, yeah right

You've still lost me.

originally posted by: Raggedyman
If my opinion was no concern then why reply, why reply in the manner you do

What manner do I reply in?

All I've ever done is respond to people with information that is backed by resources (often several) that accurately explains the topic at hand.

If you've detected anger, you've been mistaken

a reply to: WakeUpBeer

He'd probably leave before you even start that philosophy

a reply to: BuzzyWigs

Well he is going to come kill us someday. If not him, nature

a reply to: pthena

Garbage

a reply to: luciferslight

Right. That's what it would look like if scraps of scripture were pushed into a hole in the head.

I think it's rare for an atheist to even care about anything related to God or Christians or anything else.

originally posted by: xetex
I think it's rare for an atheist to even care about anything related to God or Christians or anything else.

On the contrary. I've actually found that many Atheists are very interested in religions. Not for practice, of course, but the majority I have met both here and outside of ATS find them interesting, if not fascinating; just not truthful.

a reply to: Ghost147

On the contrary. I've actually found that many Atheists are very interested in religions. Not for practice, of course, but the majority I have met both here and outside of ATS find them interesting, if not fascinating

*raises hand from back of room*

Agnostics, too ---- very interested in 'religious thought' as a particularly human thing. Very interesting. Fascinating. To be able to stand outside it and watch is really awesome from an anthropological and sociological point of view.

The Moral Animal: Why We Are the Way We Are
by Robert Wright is a fantastic read (all of his titles are well worth reading if not owning) that addresses it:

the new science of Evolutionary Psychology.

I really am endlessly fascinated by The Varieties of Religious Experience: A Study in Human Nature (William James, a classic from the 1890s).

People interested in learning more from that angle (as a phenomenon) would totally appreciate both.

a reply to: BuzzyWigs

The Moral Animal: Why We Are the Way We Are
by Robert Wright is a fantastic read (all of his titles are well worth reading if not owning) that addresses it:

Would I be correct in assuming that his conclusions on human will are different from Sam Harris' notion that "will is an illusion"?