Russia sends message to NATO through their drills.

a reply to: cavtrooper7

Vlads got sw right to his sphere of influence in the regions He/Russia occupies 200 years ago when they occupied and subdued the natives, USA did EXACTLY the same in the regions the USA occupied out of the ORIGINAL 13 sates and they still occupy their backyard of native territories to this day.......................... I just don't see why what's good for the goose is not good for the gander

a reply to: ufoorbhunter

Then I hope your Russian is good,America has bad traits like England( You're older YOU are worse) ,yes.
But... TO EVEN suggest such a country should expand anytime it wants into other countries legal boundries doesn't work in 2016.
Nor will China's game after elections.
WE can and will fight China if they shoot at us.
Putin will celebrate if they make that grave error in their illegal efforts by international law.
THEN we confiscate their assets,which is the real reason America has gone to war AFTER WWII.

a reply to: cavtrooper7

Is Ivan MOVING IN to TURKEY?
forbiddenknowledgetv.net...

America sends Russia back an answer....and Syria..www.usatoday.com...

a reply to: dragonridr

yeah they perceive a threat. doesnt mean there is one. russia has had very good reasons for the so called invasions on their neighbors. and those reasons were always caused by NATO and the US. NATO backed the georgians when they slaughtered the ossetians the US backed neo Nazis in the coup in Ukraine. no matter how much you ignore these things it doesnt make them any less true.

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a reply to: AVoiceOfReason

Now if only you viewed the issues in neighboring countries to Russia with facts instead of Russian propaganda that they used to justify their invasion of those neighboring countries.

originally posted by: cavtrooper7
a reply to: ufoorbhunter


WE can and will fight China if they shoot at us.

Are you serious? Top Chinese generals say repeatedly China is ready to sacrifice every city East of Xian (all developed part) but the US must be ready to lose 100 US cities in return. That was published in the Chinese English media. Atfer the war, there is a big chance someone from 1.4 bln nation to survive. How about America? That should sound terrifying for a country like US that depends on technology and sophisticated organized society and that everything from EMP to Yellowstone can break down that society.

a reply to: Xcathdra

I don't know how many countries believe or not the Russian propaganda. What I know is they are pretty serious when it comes to military, although their civil life is not that well organized compared to the Western model. Recently I read somewhere of the Russian new EM weapons that blind the Western sophisticated EM guided weapons. If that is true, it means that even the area US was considered a leader, the electronic warfare, is already lost to Russia. Let alone the brute force, both conventional and nuclear.

a reply to: 2012newstart


The US NATO noticed this last fall. There were also Norwegian Advisors to the Ukraine government who also experianced the
the use of Russian El-ware fare systems.


The Ukraine forces had no. GPS, no radio's, no mobile Phones that worked. The Ukraine jets and SU25s had to navigate by a map on their legs, and had no communication between them selves or the ground. In other Words they were grounded and prevented from doing missions.

Their artillary had to fire shots in the dark and hope to hit target.

Their tanks didnt have radio communication on the front lines. And were often ambushed by the pro-russians.


Threir forces on the ground had no means of Communications, and could not do proper cooridnations on the front line. And were always pushed back by the pro-russians.

a reply to: 2012newstart

You are Over impressed with Chinese weapons and under value our defenses.
They are capable IN CHINA not anywhere else.
The Chinese find your judgement most valuable THEY assume all of America will agree so they will try expand as they please because they think WE WON'T.
Its an advantage that they STILL think we are inferior as a race,a country and our military is weak compared to their new weapons,JUST like last time with their numbers and they didn't learn.
I'm not worried.

a reply to: spy66

Is Germany there at all?

“NATO soldiers! You are being lied to! You are not peacekeepers! Lay down your arms,”


How cheerful, I'd laugh at that and shoot a few more!

a reply to: cavtrooper7

actually I don't know the Chinese weapons, besides some publications in English media. I know they have ballistic missile carrier killer for example. Sure US has its own secrets. But if it comes to nuclear exchange, will US be ready to lose 100 cities that means most of it, in order to win a war with China? The answer should be categorically NO if the US cares for its own population.

The answers should be sought in some new kind of deal. Callit a NWO. If it can save us then why not. Otherwise, good bye to Earth, as the song of Scorpions say above, presented at the anniversary of the EU in 2007.

a reply to: spy66

Thank you for that info! So it is true is it not?

a reply to: 2012newstart

NO carrier that is seaworthy with aircraft at all.
5 nuke subs 50 diesels.
Have you noticed the railguns and lasers the US Navy is employing?
Kiss that "carrier killer" good by.
THE J20 isn't stealthy and an F16 is MORE that a match for their best machine ..if it has a CHINESE pilot.
THERE is NO WAY they could hit us and KILL 100 cites AT ALL.
AND good luck hitting us with an EMP ,the People will suffer ,NOT the military they employ EMP hardened equipment,and would be fully functional with a full spectrum WMD response(Nuke /Bio and Chems).
Coincidentally the grid could very easily be hardened well if the cheap bastards would PAY 3 Billion for it.

a reply to: Xcathdra

but I got my facts from bbc about the Georgian war and as for Ukraine its always been American researchers.

originally posted by: cavtrooper7
a reply to: spy66

Is Germany there at all?

I dont really know what you mean by that? The situation in Ukraine is really a US, UN and EU matter. And Russia as opposition. The Ukrainian People have no real say in the matter since the government both lead and opposition is selected mainly by Assistant Secretary Victoria Nuland (2013). In other Words Nuland have selected who is to represent both sides of the government.

I know that the US, France, Israel, Norway, Sweden and the UK have been there before the Riot started. I also know that Norway were aksed to give support to the selected Ukraine government by Victoria Nuland. I also know that Victoria didnt just Select the New government, but she also selected how the opposition to the New government should be. This last part was not in the the Utube video, but can be read about on wikip.

Nuland refers to as "Yats") coming up several times. Specifically, the two spoke about which opposition leaders they would like to see in government, what pitches they would give each opposition leader in subsequent calls to achieve this, and strategies on how they would try to manage the 'personality problems' and conflicts between the different opposition leaders with ambitions to become president

originally posted by: AVoiceOfReason
a reply to: Xcathdra

but I got my facts from bbc about the Georgian war and as for Ukraine its always been American researchers.

No you didnt and no they haven't.

a reply to: spy66

So you think American spooks a trying a "Russian" spring?