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A few thoughts on Extra Terrestrials.....

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posted on Jan, 20 2005 @ 10:40 AM
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After reading various posts on ETs, I think that if they did show up and their existence became common knowledge, then here are a few guiding points that you should follow.

1.) Just like any species, whether it be human, or any animal, not all ETs are the same. Some individuals may be hostile, others will be the total opposite. So there's no point arguing that they are peaceful or hostile when nothing at all is completely peaceful nor hostile, especially a species of say a few billion people.
Just think about it. Since when can you get the entire human species to agree on any one thing? You can't. What makes you think that they are any different?


2.) Watch out for authors who make certain claims in their books about ETs or whatnot. The author's main goal usually is to make money. How can you make money? Simply, by making people afraid. Fear, like sex, sells. David Icke is one of them. Besides trying to make a person afraid, he uses one little tidbit that often people who spread urban legends use. That is, giving people a tidbit of knowledge that most people don't have. That feeling of knowledge makes the person think that they are more enlightened than everybody else. The funny part of it is that many people exist that don't question the validity of such knowledge.

3.) Quit using the bible for guidance on ETs. Anybody who studied Old and New Testament scholarship will see that the bible is a dead book. For anybody to see uniformity in the bible is like seeing uniformity in a newspaper. A newspaper consists of many sections, which each section having numerous authors. Do these authors share the same opinion on the same things? No. The difference with the bible though is it's like it was one edition of a newspaper that was put together over many centuries. If you want to read about the OT, read Lawrence Boadt, and for the NT read Bart D. Ehrman. Boadt argues that when the OT was written, that the rules for writing history were different than today. Today we want to find out directly what happened. Back then, the actual sequence of events was irrelevant, but people wanted to know what the spiritual message was behind such events. Bart Ehrman shows that Jesus, as agreed upon by most scholars (The jesus seminar is actually a minority of scholars and do not represent majority scholarly opinion) is that Jesus was a man who argued that the end of the world was going to happen during the lifetime of his apostles, read Mark 13 for proof. Regardless, the bible is absolutely no guide for ETs. I'm sorry to disappoint you biblethumpers out there.

So how should we deal with ETs?

1.) Remember that our perception of others is reflective of our perceptions of ourselves. The way an individual ET will deal with us is reflective of how he or she or it will deal with itself. The way we perceive ETs is the same as we perceive ourselves.

2.) Remember that when it comes to trust, that it works both ways. They must earn our trust and we must earn theirs. That will take time.

3.) Examine UFO and Abduction reports on a case by case basis. There could be abductions by ETs......the victims may be lying...the victims may be hallucinating...the CIA could have conducted such kidnappings in order to gain testing from humans............we don't know. We have to examine these things case by case, and then develop a methodology for determining the truth, such as what can be multiply attested and so forth.



posted on Jan, 20 2005 @ 12:50 PM
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Originally posted by BeMoreCynical
1.) Just like any species, whether it be human, or any animal, not all ETs are the same. Some individuals may be hostile, others will be the total opposite. So there's no point arguing that they are peaceful or hostile when nothing at all is completely peaceful nor hostile, especially a species of say a few billion people.
Just think about it. Since when can you get the entire human species to agree on any one thing? You can't. What makes you think that they are any different?


Is it not possible that just like an Owl feels no remorse for the mouse it kills (for its own surival) the reticulan/grey/E.B.E/alien/E.T could be the same?



posted on Jan, 20 2005 @ 03:32 PM
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Every animal kills for its survival, just like a human. That's not the point. An E.T that travels all these light years isn't going to come here and torture humans or kill humans for its own survival. There must be so many other alternatives besides our very own planet and our very own species.

Besides, if ETs were to travel here, they would have to have a very intelligent brain in order to understand the physics that would be required to know in order to travel faster than light to get here. An integral part of intelligence is self-awareness.



posted on Jan, 20 2005 @ 03:35 PM
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Besides....

Look at what we are doing...........the way many people on here treat ETs or the grays is the exact same way that white anglosaxons treat black people in the U.S. It's quite offensive if you ask me.

We take our worst features and worst characteristics and throw it onto another species whom we haven't even met yet. Independence Day is the perfect example of that.

If you honestly believe that ETs are purely evil, or are here to enslave us, chances are you are somebody who personally believes that you yourself are evil or that you yourself want to enslave the human race.



posted on Jan, 20 2005 @ 03:54 PM
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I dont see them as purely evil.

I also dont take it as read they know how to travel at the speed of light.

Do you feel remorse when you sqaush a bug? Maybe a little. How quickly do you get over it.

Could it be the smae for them.

In my opinion the survival of their race depends on our DNA.

I hope you are familar with the theory as i would rather not explain it all.

It would take a long time.



posted on Jan, 21 2005 @ 01:44 AM
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BeMoreCynical
1.) Just like any species, whether it be human, or any animal, not all ETs are the same. Some individuals may be hostile, others will be the total opposite. So there's no point arguing that they are peaceful or hostile when nothing at all is completely peaceful nor hostile, especially a species of say a few billion people.
Just think about it. Since when can you get the entire human species to agree on any one thing? You can't. What makes you think that they are any different?


all reptilians need to eat.


BeMoreCynical
Besides, if ETs were to travel here, they would have to have a very intelligent brain in order to understand the physics that would be required to know in order to travel faster than light to get here. An integral part of intelligence is self-awareness.


As you said in your first post not all of them are going to be the same. Not all of them will be scientists.


BeMoreCynical
We take our worst features and worst characteristics and throw it onto another species whom we haven't even met yet. Independence Day is the perfect example of that.


What you don't understand might kill you, it's better to be safe then sorry IMHO.



posted on Jan, 21 2005 @ 12:49 PM
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I suggest to let them prove themselves instead of jumping the gun. In the media ETs have a purely negative image and that is what i consider unfair.



posted on Jan, 21 2005 @ 12:58 PM
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Originally posted by BeMoreCynical
I suggest to let them prove themselves instead of jumping the gun. In the media ETs have a purely negative image and that is what i consider unfair.


I would hardly say so.

If you mean movies then yes but i would hardly put that under media.

Other than a bit of Icke crap that reaches the papers there is hardly any media attention at all.



posted on Jan, 21 2005 @ 02:36 PM
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If superintelligent, super-advanced aliens came to Earth and saw us as totally undeveloped insects, think about how WE deal with insects.


"Damn, looks like ants in the garage. Get out the Raid."

We'd so be toast.

They may be all nice and good, and have total respect for life, but probably just their OWN. Like we do. Respect for HUMAN life, but very little else.

j



posted on Jan, 21 2005 @ 03:14 PM
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Originally posted by Jakomo

Respect for HUMAN life, but very little else.





Since when did humans have respect for human life.



posted on Jan, 21 2005 @ 03:22 PM
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I wonder what diseases we could exhange with non-earth beings. Would it be like the spainards coming to mexico?



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