Mandela Effect - Kidney Proof - Internal Organs Changed Position

originally posted by: Agartha
a reply to: Pearj

And this is why, like another poster have said, somebody who have actually gone to university for years to study a medical science would never say: "the kidneys have moved"! Because the kidneys have not move, only you have no idea of what you are talking about.

The kidneys are located in the upper back, commonly known as 'the small of the back'.
The small of the back is (and has always been) where the spine curves at waist level where the lumbar vertebrae is.
This is an xray showing where the kidnes are and where the small of the back is:

This is a diagram showing the kidneys position (notice the gluteus and the area commonly called small of the back). It's in Italian, so I have circled in red 'rene' which is kidneys.

You only have proof of you lack of medical knowledge. The anatomy is still the same.

You posted these two pics to show that they are still in the same place as this pic?

This Mandela effect idea is the silliest thing I´ve heard in years.

a reply to: Agartha

The OP remembers the kidneys in an area that's still correct 'in this timeline'. So again: the kidneys are still in the same place, small of the back. No mystery there.

Well they aren't in the same place in different pics. Which of the pics you have posted show the actual correct position?

a reply to: CrapAsUsual

It didn't used to be It was common knowledge, I remember it like that so it must be true!!!.

originally posted by: TheMaxHeadroomIncident
You posted these two pics to show that they are still in the same place as this pic?

Again? See my explanation on my previous reply.
Actually, re-read all my replies to you, it's all there.

a reply to: Agartha

In those 2 pics you posted, the kidneys are obviously not in the same place as in the OP pic........so if your point with that reply was to show that they are still in the same spot then you failed.

a reply to: Agartha

Ok Agartha...

I DO NOT think the kidneys are in the same spot as I remember them. I understand "belt line" can mean different positions to different people - but the obvious gist of my post is that they were low and are now high.

I only have so many words and phrases in English to use. I did my best, and thought the gist was clear. Why you would go on for pages about how we actually agree is beyond me.

Not for a lack of wanting - I wish we (all) agreed to some extent - or were at least civil; it would be so much easier to communicate. A stark contrast to what actually happens - the bulk of what I get for replies on these threads can be boiled down to "your dumb".

I can handle the insults; I'm much more concerned with the Big Picture, and so I continue.

In fact - the more skeptics go on the way they do, the more I think we are being drowned out - and the more I want to get the word out there, so the more I post Mandela Effects that affect me and are interesting. Counter productive from the skeptics assumed goal, but that's what happens.

a reply to: Pearj

Why can't you just be mistaken? why must it be something else?. What is more probable you being mistaken or timeshifrts or whatever and you can see the shifts?. Why assume timeshifts when the obvious is just a faulty memory I just don't get how you jump to the conclusion of the mandella effect.
Explain please.

originally posted by: TheMaxHeadroomIncident
In those 2 pics you posted, the kidneys are obviously not in the same place as in the OP pic........so if your point with that reply was to show that they are still in the same spot then you failed.

I'm sorry you struggle to understand about anatomy and how certain diagrams confuse laymen. I know they may not look in the same place to you, but, as I have shown with the 3D pics I posted last, xrays/diagrams do tend to look different, when they are not. Even though they seem different, they are all in the same area (small of the back, waistline ).

I'm sorry I can't explain it any simpler so you can actually see what I'm trying to say to you.

Perhaps try to reread my last reply to you.

a reply to: Agartha

Pure drivel. "Oh just ignore that they are obviously not in the same place in the pics, because they actually are."

Then don't use those pics to try and prove your BS point.

Here are the facts. It does not matter what you say, what you think you can prove or what you present...

None of us likes to believe that a memory we are confident is accurate is, in fact, completely wrong. But some choose to blame something so they agree with the mandella effect.
I will say it boarders on narcissism when someone can not admit they are wrong.

originally posted by: TheKnightofDoom
None of us likes to believe that a memory we are confident is accurate is, in fact, completely wrong. But some choose to blame something so they agree with the mandella effect.
I will say it boarders on narcissism when someone can not admit they are wrong.

I find the mandella effect interesting.

Mainly because if you ask someone that does not really go for conspiracies or the unusual you can normally find at least a couple of things they are adament about and it makes them question things a little.

originally posted by: nonspecific

originally posted by: TheKnightofDoom
None of us likes to believe that a memory we are confident is accurate is, in fact, completely wrong. But some choose to blame something so they agree with the mandella effect.
I will say it boarders on narcissism when someone can not admit they are wrong.

I find the mandella effect interesting.

Mainly because if you ask someone that does not really go for conspiracies or the unusual you can normally find at least a couple of things they are adament about and it makes them question things a little.

It is only interesting when you fail to take into account the lightspeed checkability of information we have nowadays. I bet you our kids will not suffer from this pathetic and ridiculous malaise. 100% internet induced.

Edit: To be clear, all of the Mandela effects are found in information that was pre-mainstream internet.

a reply to: nonspecific

Thing is I can remember times I have had when a thing I was absolutely certain happened didn't.
I know and have seen how the brain can be wrong I see it everyday to some to a much more severe extent.
We are not computers our memory is not like a hard drive and gets jumbled up with things like false memory,misattribution of memory and the misinformation effect.
It isn't like this is unexplanable.
Like I said none of us like to think we are fallible but we are the brain does funny thing.

a reply to: TheKnightofDoom

Thing is I can remember times I have had when a thing I was absolutely certain happened didn't.

Me too, but then it didn't involve loads of other people who just happen to corroborate my faulty memory independantly from me.

a reply to: TheKnightofDoom

Show me the cold war was different. Show me that it wasn't Lech Walesa who took the Polish dock workers into the fray.

Show me it wasn't Hitler who tried to take the National socialist party into power with the putsh, in fact show me that he didn't consolidate power in the night of the long knives.

Show me that JFK wasn't assassinated in Dealy plaza, or that Winston Churchill never fought in the Boer war and WW1...

Show me these things.

Don't show me that the kidneys are a bit higher than you thought, that C3P0's leg was golden all the time, someone said Luke or whatever.

Right?

As someone once said, show me the money!!

a reply to: Jonjonj

Would Tienanmen Square count? Many remember the student being ran over by the tanks, not here though.

I have a feeling it won't count, but I hope I'm wrong.

GTA5 time, have to cruz but will check back.