Trump Polled At 65% Against Clinton - SHOCKING SOURCE

a reply to: 19KTankCommander

With respect, one thousand people is a sample size I would expect to take to have some idea of the opinion of ten or twenty thousand people. A small towns worth of folks.

To sample a nation with 218,959,000 eligible voters, one would have to sample 10,947 people from across the nation, just to have the sample size mean anything statistically.

originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
a reply to: UnBreakable

Um, no.
I won't cave to your Quinnipiac. I raised you with Pew. Pew is the place for facts. They do real research, instead of polling 1,000 [(or 265) people and then claiming data about what those 1,000 (or 265) people think.

Sorry the results aren't giving you numbers to fit your narrative.

a reply to: TrueBrit

I cant think of a election poll I noted that ever was more than say 1,000 people. It's like that's the model.

A perfect example is how Penn & Teller on their show Bull# had already exposed this Frank Luntz pollster punk as a scam artist.



Later he was exposed as running snip for Fox News during the debates, as some sort of primary strategist against Ron Paul throughout the 2008 primaries.

a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

And that is why they must all be looked at skeptically. If only 200 people who are registered Repubs are called and asked who they like, and every single one of them says "Trump" ---- well, that would be a crap poll.

Please, just give Pew a try. Be aware of what other more scientific and legitimately obtained data say.
Please.

Because important knowledge and info is important.

a reply to: UnBreakable

Sorry the results aren't giving you numbers to fit your narrative.

LOL!! Really?

Yeah - so - you can find "numbers" to fit your narrative all day long. Websites, too. Sorry you don't know that "poll results" are very much dependent on what demographic was questioned. You can look at "YAY TRUMP!" all bloody day long, but that doesn't mean that most people want him.

He's not fit. I'm sorry, but he's just not. I do understand how you all feel like you have a new superhero, but it's not real. Trump is a character actor - because he is a character human.

It makes me sad that we are all so snarly about all this.

a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

Yes, it does seem to be the norm. However, all that means is that the normal sample size for a national poll, renders national polls defunct from the off.

If those who were sponsoring these things were out to gain information about voting habits, rather than being involved in a psychological operation against the voting public, then you would see much larger samples used.

a reply to: Winstonian

This and according to that reddit and 4chan thread they get paid more if they can get the threads to go in a certain "general"direction...

So I don't answer certain people... Just on the off chance it's true.. I wasn't around for the last election so I don't know what it was like but I am curious about how many of the people I suspect will still be here this time next year.

a reply to: misfit312

It seems their existence ought to slap in the face of the "Skeptics" (social group) who argue conspiracies 'cant' happen since they require too many people and someone will come forward. I mean unless there are scores of former paid trolls coming forward as whistleblowers to expose how this scene is a clear attack on natural democratic discourse and therefore the process itself.

originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
a reply to: UnBreakable

Sorry the results aren't giving you numbers to fit your narrative.

LOL!! Really?

Yeah - so - you can find "numbers" to fit your narrative all day long. Websites, too. Sorry you don't know that "poll results" are very much dependent on what demographic was questioned. You can look at "YAY TRUMP!" all bloody day long, but that doesn't mean that most people want him.

He's not fit. I'm sorry, but he's just not. I do understand how you all feel like you have a new superhero, but it's not real. Trump is a character actor - because he is a character human.

It makes me sad that we are all so snarly about all this.

I never said "all people" want him, but I was just verifying what another poster claimed, that he leads among white, college-educated voters. Again, sorry if this demographic isn't kissing Hillary's ass like you want.

a reply to: UnBreakable

another poster claimed, that he leads among white, college-educated voters.

Yes, that's what you posted. And he doesn't. It is false. He does NOT lead among white, college-educated voters. He just doesn't. That is false.

Again, sorry if this demographic isn't kissing Hillary's ass like you want.

What makes you think I like Hillary? I don't give a rat's ass who likes Hillary......and....I don't want her either.


It makes me sad that you are so quick to attack when someone says "wait a sec"......
just because you read it and posted it doesn't make it true.

a reply to: UnBreakable

College Educated White Voters Could Spell Trouble for Trump

Democrats already hold a big advantage in carrying densely populated places. In 2012, Barack Obama won Pennsylvania even though he only won 13 of its 67 counties. Obama won Ohio by carrying just 17 of the state's 88 counties.

And ]bdense metro areas tend to have higher levels of educational attainment. In other words, Trump's struggles with college educated whites feed into the Democrats inherent advantage in the big metropolitan counties where Barack Obama won in 2012.

so. yeah.

there's that

Been looking up this poll but all I come up with are videos of the persons reaction, and articles talking about the reaction... nothing about the methodology.

From how it sounds though, this was basically just a call in poll where you call a number and press 1 for Hillary or 2 for Trump. Were the number of responses comparable to the responses they get in other polls? If it had considerably more responses, that would suggest that auto dialers were at work. If it had considerably fewer responses it could suggest that the Bravo audience for the most part doesn't care about either, but that they have a segment who really care about Trump.

I guess most gays probably know that Trump is very pro-gay. Hillary can't be pro-gay without licking her finger and holding it up to the wind.

Sal

a reply to: Winstonian

"There are lies, damn lies, and statistics".

Depending on how you do the poll, you can make it say anything you want.

I bet I can do a poll that would show 100% support for either candidate.

originally posted by: SallieSunshine
I guess most gays probably know that Trump is very pro-gay. Hillary can't be pro-gay without licking her finger and holding it up to the wind.

Sal

a reply to: Winstonian

If Trump is pro gay, how come he has NEVER marched in a Gay Pride parade, and has said that laws recently passed in NC that are very anti gay have his own support, and he's got one of the most right wing anti gay Governors in the USA as his running mate?

Trump is pro gay? Yeah, right.

Hillary has supported gay rights and pro gay policies for DECADES.

Internet polls are highly unreliable becuase they always get brigaded by groups looking to game the count. On top of that this poll is way off compared to all others. Don't let yourself end up like Carl Rove.

"In a primary, Clinton could be forced to explain a longtime position that a significant part of that Democratic political coalition now views as suspect or even bigoted. Most famously, the Silicon Valley left forced the ouster of Mozilla CEO Brendan Eich for a 2008 donation he made to an anti-gay-marriage ballot initiative. That same year, Clinton ran for president while openly opposing gay marriage. If she is to be believed, she also opposed gay marriage as recently as 2013, long after a majority of Americans already held a more gay-friendly position."


www.theatlantic.com...


a reply to: babybunnies

a reply to: babybunnies

Actually, Trump completely changed the complexion of the Republican Convention by expressing support for and welcome to LGBTQ voters. He also required for the first time that gay Republicans be in the line up of speakers. Those who know Trump know him as a person who has been completely fair with gay people in business practises.

Of course, he had a major war with noted lesbian entertainer Rosie O'Donnell. But that was viciously personal and had nothing to do with sexuality or sexual orientation or sexual preferences.

He has a higher view of states rights, and he knows that he needed an Evangelical running mate if he hoped to gather enough Republican support. There are many areas where Trump can be faulted, but the status and rights of gay citizens really is not such an area.