Ben Carson Republican National Convention Speech 7/19/16

originally posted by: Christosterone
a reply to: BlueAjah

His dream since medical school has been to one day be surgeon general...
If Trump is elected he will assuredly be appointed to that post and fulfill a lifelong dream..

One can scarcely imagine anyone in his delivery room on the day he was born would've thought the baby they delivered would one day become Surgeon General of the United States of America...

I hope for him that he achieves that monumental accomplishment...

-Christosterone

yet still not immune to racial slurs, digital or otherwise...
a new fallacy name is needed.

a reply to: UKTruth

He said, that God would remove His blessing from the land, if "something" was not done to prevent people "changing everything".

And I made the post you responded to, in response to another posters comments, not Carson directly, although he would do well to remember that Jesus is not in the habit of turning his back on his followers, and grow himself a god damned spine while he is at it. He would probably spend less time worried out of his mind about inconsequential matters that way.

originally posted by: odzeandennz

originally posted by: Christosterone
a reply to: BlueAjah

His dream since medical school has been to one day be surgeon general...
If Trump is elected he will assuredly be appointed to that post and fulfill a lifelong dream..

One can scarcely imagine anyone in his delivery room on the day he was born would've thought the baby they delivered would one day become Surgeon General of the United States of America...

I hope for him that he achieves that monumental accomplishment...

-Christosterone

yet still not immune to racial slurs, digital or otherwise...
a new fallacy name is needed.

What?!?
Carson was born into an age of rampant racism...
The racist dogma of the age preached that black people did not possess the inherent iq required of medical doctors...let alone Surgeon Generals of the United States...

Ben Carson's intellectual prowess and profound work ethic saw him achieve heights theretofor unknown in his personal purview...

I cannot know for certain that those delivering him were not of high-minded egalitarianism...
But I can assume(safely) that were you to ask them at the time, none of those in the delivery room would have said they believe this baby will grow up and be the Surgeon General of the United States....

-Christosterone

originally posted by: desert
Interesting thing about Saul Alinsky, and maybe Dr. Carson is unaware, but the Tea Party was introduced to his methods by Dick Armey's Frededom Works; and Conservative activist James O'Keefe used Alynsky's tactics.
A good read.

Even Townhall got in on the act.

The Tea Party, James O'Keefe, and Townhall "acknowledge Lucifer"?

very interesting

originally posted by: TrueBrit
a reply to: UKTruth

He said, that God would remove His blessing from the land, if "something" was not done to prevent people "changing everything".

And I made the post you responded to, in response to another posters comments, not Carson directly, although he would do well to remember that Jesus is not in the habit of turning his back on his followers, and grow himself a god damned spine while he is at it. He would probably spend less time worried out of his mind about inconsequential matters that way.

God removing his blessing from the land does not equate to God turning his back on an individual. Many (all?) religions through recorded history have believed that troubled times are brought about by the wrath of God. I just interpret what Carson said differently to you. I have also listened a lot to what he has to say over the last year since he began his presidential run - I would not consider him to be lacking in faith.

a reply to: UKTruth

I consider anyone not strong in their faith or religion to be lacking in faith.

He said, that God would remove His blessing from the land, if "something" was not done to prevent people "changing everything".

seems like he is lacking in the faith department if he feels that everything is "changing".

Tibet was stripped of their faith, their temples destroyed, the Dalai Lama is a Tibetan refugee, however, they are still very strong and unmoved in their faith, the horrific events that the Chinese govt imposed on them has made them even stronger.

What if the American Government started burning down churches and jailed anyone who prayed? We are not doing that! We are giving equal rights to gays and simply separating church and state. Quit whining that your dumb god is going to remove his blessing from the land!!!

a reply to: TrueBrit

Many who say, Lord Lord in that day will be put to the left side. They will proclaim how they preached and taught etc. and He will say to them, "Get away from me, I never knew you!" There will be great weeping and gnashing of teeth.

Your comments seemed to me to be one of judging those who speak out against the lies. These Godless socialists use the words of "love, forgiveness, feeding the poor etc. as some socialist battlecry in Jesus name. Let them take it out of THEIR own pockets, give up their OWN belongings and help one another. The government does not take from one group to give to another who is unWILLing to work. The Lord most certainly will withdraw his blessings from a godless nation that does the evil works of Satan. The Lord does expect us to obey the law just as He did.

You make it sound like you just accept Jesus and you're in without your actions of faith and works showing your path in Christ. Our vote does matter. You are either voting for the return to Godly principles or you are not.

a reply to: UnifiedSerenity

just like

"You are either against me or not"

??


lol

a reply to: veracity

I believe we are witnessing the great apostasy and the fruits of it is in our faces. Do we just throw up our hands and not as watchmen let it happen? No, we act as watchmen and call the nation to repentance and a heart turned back to God through Jesus. Having done all we can, we stand in faith.

a reply to: UKTruth

I just re-watched the video.

It's actually worse than I thought, he said "God will remove himself from us", having previously stated that this would happen if the people in that room allowed the progressive, secularist to remove God from the lives of the American people.

Does he think that any organisation is capable of removing God from somewhere? How strange his idea of God must be, that a mortal or any group thereof, under any banner or flag could possibly remove him from the lives of those who have accepted Jesus into their hearts?

He's simply wrong. He is wrong to suggest that God can be removed from the faithful by any means, under any government, or under any duress. He is also wrong to suggest that those who love God will be denied his presence (which he actually explicitly did suggest) as a result of any but their own actions, and he is dead wrong to align himself with a segment of political power, which values corporate entities and their health, over the ability of hard working, yet financially destitute persons to feed their families and see to the education of their young. He is dead wrong to refer to God and Jesus in a political sphere, when speaking from the right wing, because Jesus was a radical too, and a lefty at that. He hung out with prostitutes, bandits, taxmen (the second most loathed demographic in ancient times) and sufferers of leprosy. He stuck the proverbial finger up at the establishment, his very existence being an act of rebellion.

Basically, the issue here, is that not only does Carson suggest that God will remove himself from the faithful if they allow progressive secularism to continue, but he is using his faith in Christ as a justification for the same, and that is the most utterly flawed, conspicuously fallacious thing I have ever heard out of his mouth, and this man has said some utterly ludicrous things in the past.

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: TrueBrit
a reply to: UKTruth

He said, that God would remove His blessing from the land, if "something" was not done to prevent people "changing everything".

And I made the post you responded to, in response to another posters comments, not Carson directly, although he would do well to remember that Jesus is not in the habit of turning his back on his followers, and grow himself a god damned spine while he is at it. He would probably spend less time worried out of his mind about inconsequential matters that way.

God removing his blessing from the land does not equate to God turning his back on an individual. Many (all?) religions through recorded history have believed that troubled times are brought about by the wrath of God. I just interpret what Carson said differently to you. I have also listened a lot to what he has to say over the last year since he began his presidential run - I would not consider him to be lacking in faith.

Well said, and I am in agreement with your viewpoint.

a reply to: UnifiedSerenity

I am not witnessing anything but equal rights and the right to practice any religion I want.

If you are experiencing an apostasy, I would dig deeper into the meaning of life and why you are here, bc you are clearly feeling threatened and lacking in faith.

Good luck

a reply to: UnifiedSerenity

Godly principles like making money no matter how many people you leave destroyed along the way in the process? Godly principles like starting wars for oil? Godly principles of profit you mean?

Because those are the principles upon which the current Republican method stands. They are the party of big money, small but fantastically rich government, avarice, above all other things avarice, dressed up in the robes of a prophet or preacher, saying all the good stuff, and taking money hand over fist at the expense of those who have actually worked for their money, the working poor.

Trump is just an amplified and obvious pretender, as opposed to the well hidden liar that was the last genuine contender to be made a republican president.

a reply to: veracity


You don't know me at all. You have no idea about my strength of faith. I said nothing in judgement of you personally. I am speaking to what I see in society at large.

a reply to: UnifiedSerenity

and that is all I am speaking from...your views of society at large.

posts on these little internet message forum boards do say a lot about a person.

a reply to: TrueBrit

I'd rather have a conservative in office who wants to stop the invasion of illegals and terrorists into my country. I'd rather vote for a conservative who wants to bring back jobs. I'd rather vote for a conservative who wants to stop the socialist programs and common core. Hillary will be Cloward-Piven on steroids!

Hillary is a disaster.

a reply to: veracity

My views on society at large come from a lot of study. First off, apostasy and falling away from sound doctrine is prophecy. To those who don't believe it means nothing, but to those who do, it's easy to see. Mega churches that teach everyone goes to heaven and you are God.

The fruit of the falling away is everywhere with what is presented as entertainment, lying being accepted in our elected leaders, blatant immorality etc.. I could go on, but it's rather useless. You and I are not going to come to any agreement. Hillary is a liar, deceiver, flip flopper whose policies will continue down the road of destruction.

I don't want to see that happen.

a reply to: awareness10

Not one word Dr. Carson spoke in that speech was incorrect. He's spittballing pure truth, and that fact is completely independent of whether people listen to it and believe it or choose to ignore it or decry it.

a reply to: UnifiedSerenity

Choosing between two devils is no choice at all. But by all means appease the supporters of the hegemony, lend your vote to the candidate whose flaws and fears most resemble your own, rather than making an informed and educated choice.

a reply to: burdman30ott6

He spoke an awful lot of lies about God.

But thats what you get when what you have is not faith, but indoctrination.