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Possible Ghostly Evidence Photo and EVP EMF. (IMG Heavy, Video)

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posted on Jul, 16 2016 @ 06:03 AM
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So I'm a paranormal investigator (and in-house sensitive) with my college group, and our president is the kind of guy who sees a ton of dust in the camera frame and thinks it's hundreds of orbs, so he's no help. But we did an investigation in a residence where the woman had been seeing shadow figures, hearing voices, etc. and claimed her (now adult) son had been scratched in his room. Here's a VERY rough map of the house:

When we started out, everyone was obsessed with this little shed out back because someone had drawn a pentagram on the wall (there was also a Maltese cross and a piggy bank in there, leading me to believe it was some kid into metal). Anyway, my "hunting buddy" and I got sent there first. It was a dead end, as said before. I did find a decaying deer head in an aquarium, but in the Ozarks that's nothing paranormal.
When we got back, our president and another investigator (who was actually the resident's ex-husband and the father of the boy that was scratched) said they had done an EVP session in the bedroom and got nothing. They did get some EMF, but only in one corner of the room.
Yet another team went in there, while I took pictures. One picture made me so uneasy when I took it (I saw nothing at the time) that I showed my husband, who is also an investigator. Later, when I blew it up, I found something odd, and I keep begging people to help me explain it but so far my husband and dad are the only ones who have answered me on it, and they can't find a logical explanation. Original, unedited pic:

Circled for emphasis:

As you can see, the black spot in the mirror comes up higher than the line of coats. There was nothing hanging on the end of the coat rack, and the wall across from it is blank white. Here is another pic of the area, including the wall across from it:

So after we finished taking pictures, things started to wind down and the other investigators wandered off to other places, so I grabbed my hubby and did an EVP session in the son's room. This is what we got:


I would love any input, even debunking, but if you're not going to provide a logical explanation don't come around.
edit on 7/16/16 by Billie828 because: Title snafu. Fixed now!



posted on Jul, 16 2016 @ 06:14 AM
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Are you sure that when dealing in paranormal, that one should expect a logical answer... so you are hoping to prove there is no spiritual existence?
Lets all be robots.
When dealing in the paranormal, truly working with spiritual ongoings, occurrences..it ain't going to sound logical.
Sorry to burst your bubble,
I'm sure there is a cold scientific explanation for your pics....
And everything is normal.
Thanks for the OP,
Nice pics.



posted on Jul, 16 2016 @ 06:23 AM
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a reply to: peppycat

I'm not saying we can't discuss the paranormal aspect. My comment at the end was aimed at people who come around and say "Oh, it's not real, ghosts don't exist." and give no reason why they don't think the evidence isn't viable. We do this under two assumptions: The first is that ghosts exist. The second is that each case and each piece of evidence can probably be logically explained. If we can't explain it, only then do we call it paranormal.



posted on Jul, 16 2016 @ 06:31 AM
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Sounds to me like you're really trying to find spirits there. Even if there aren't any.

If a place is active its obvious to anyone that is sensitive. When dealing with the real world trust your instruments. When confronted wth the spirit you won't need them.



posted on Jul, 16 2016 @ 06:32 AM
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a reply to: Billie828

Looks like a shadow on the wall further back out of the pictures view.. perhaps from the person taking the picture




posted on Jul, 16 2016 @ 06:58 AM
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a reply to: Billie828okay.
I think it is difficult for a sensitive to feel for what's going on unless they are physically present... although some are capable of much more from seeing a picture.
What one might need to know is, how does being near the painting make you feel?
Cold, icky, mad, calm ect..
I thought I seen a black power fist in the photo... yet have little feeling from it... as I'm not sure if I'm seeing the shadow correctly.



posted on Jul, 16 2016 @ 07:34 AM
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It looks like the shadow of the jacket, If you are a little short and used a flash that is. The shadow is larger at the top and slims closer to the bottom but the contours seem to match, as does the lighting on the mirror wall which is lighter at the bottom and darker at the top.



posted on Jul, 16 2016 @ 08:01 AM
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originally posted by: intrptr
Sounds to me like you're really trying to find spirits there. Even if there aren't any.

How am I trying to find spirits if there aren't any? I knew there were spirits there, but I'm obviously looking for a logical explanation for the picture.


originally posted by: Spacespider
Looks like a shadow on the wall further back out of the pictures view.. perhaps from the person taking the picture

I would agree with that, but the angles are all totally wrong. I was using a flashlight because my camera flash isn't working, and the only other person in the room with me was on the wrong side. It is not a shadow from either of us.


originally posted by: peppycatWhat one might need to know is, how does being near the painting make you feel?
Cold, icky, mad, calm ect..

Originally, I kept hovering around the mirror. It gave me a very uneasy feeling, as did the whole room. At one point, in the pitch dark, I turned on my flashlight and fully expected to see a figure standing by the bathroom door. When I took the picture, it made me so uneasy I showed it to my husband, not knowing there was anything odd in it.


originally posted by: KungfuStu
It looks like the shadow of the jacket, If you are a little short and used a flash that is.

I don't think it's shaped right to be the shadow of the jacket, primarily because it does get slimmer at the bottom. Plus, it's so much higher than the jacket itself. It's totally wrong for the light angle, isn't it?



posted on Jul, 16 2016 @ 08:22 AM
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I think this might be explained by you taking the picture on a slight angle and having the flashlight pointed closer to the floor. This would explain why the shadow is accentuated at the top and is slimmer at the bottom.



posted on Jul, 16 2016 @ 08:47 AM
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a reply to: KungfuStu

I still don't buy it because of the other shadows. The shadow of that coat should be cast on the bathroom door, which means it's too far toward me to be the coat.

Also, I just turned up the lightness and saturation and there's some sort of red spot in the middle of the blob. Definitely not a shadow, unless shadows come in color now.



posted on Jul, 16 2016 @ 09:06 AM
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a reply to: Billie828 what stood out inmmy mind was the red plastic circle thing and the pink and black items... maybe smudge that spot or wash items in washing soda and lemon soap shavings?



posted on Jul, 16 2016 @ 09:12 AM
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Well you probably have a higher res picture to examine and I don't know about the changing the contrast thing. Maybe the red dot is a reflection from a red LED on your camera? The other thing that makes me think it a shadow is if you look at the bottom of the door (bottom right) there is another dark spot of a similar if not the same colour as the object in question, this dark spot does not look to be part of the human like shape? Don't get me wrong I'm only offering up a possible theory and thank you for the thread.

edit on 16-7-2016 by KungfuStu because: spelling



posted on Jul, 16 2016 @ 09:49 AM
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a reply to: Billie828




As you can see, the black spot in the mirror comes up higher than the line of coats. There was nothing hanging on the end of the coat rack, and the wall across from it is blank white. Here is another pic of the area, including the wall across from it:


Had to edit my reply. After using an app I have called Virtual Magnifying Glass [ it's free ] I see what you're talking about. Almost looks like a red eye in the middle.


edit on 16-7-2016 by DAVID64 because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 16 2016 @ 12:08 PM
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posted on Jul, 16 2016 @ 12:29 PM
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a reply to: Billie828okay seeing image more clearly now, it is a mirror with flowers painted on it?
What is opposite the mirror?
Still having difficulty seeing clear.




posted on Jul, 16 2016 @ 09:24 PM
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a reply to: Billie828

I'm certainly not going to tell you ghosts don't exist; I've had my own experiences, but I think what you captured in the photo is the hat, or whatever that is circled, in the background showing just above the coat, giving the illusion of a shadow being in the mirror.

ETA: went back for a second look. I don't know what it is. Now I'm confused. LOL

As for the beep... I think you might have some evidence of something there.

edit on 7/16/2016 by sled735 because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 19 2016 @ 06:56 AM
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originally posted by: peppycat
a reply to: Billie828okay seeing image more clearly now, it is a mirror with flowers painted on it?
What is opposite the mirror?
Still having difficulty seeing clear.

Yes, the mirror has flowers on it. The wall opposite the mirror is blank white. In fact, you can see the shadows made by the flowers on the opposite wall if you look in the mirror's reflection.


originally posted by: sled735
ETA: went back for a second look. I don't know what it is. Now I'm confused. LOL

As for the beep... I think you might have some evidence of something there.

Firstly, Yay, sled's looking at my post!
/end fangirl
Secondly, yeah, the orange circle outside the mirror is a toy basketball hoop. But it can't be what's causing the shadow, and there's nothing above the coat where the shadow is. Also, thanks for commenting on the video. You seem to be the first to do so



posted on Jul, 31 2016 @ 09:50 PM
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You've definitely got something here. Thank you for sharing!




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