FBI releases document with detail of Alien bodies, spacecraft and planet

a reply to: Informer1958
Is this seriously the first time you have come across the FBI vault and are you really not aware that in the document referenced in your OP the FBI aren't saying anything, rather it's a transcript of information sent to them from someone making a claim? Really?

I have a straw somewhere if you need something to clutch.

This was allegedly a letter sent to the f.b.i nothing disclosure wise about. Not to mention the reasoning the f.b.i has for publicizing some letter they recieved. This was typed up in a basement 15 mins prior to OP

Really starting to lose faith in this "community", lol. If anyone bothered to read what you flagged, you'd see it's literally nothing. I guess it's easier to read the title, ignore the story and live in fantasy though. Don't feel bad, all the sheep do it with the newspaper too, you aren't alone.

I hear in some military-industry exhibitions they had live working anti-gravitic 'UFO's' in a hangar for show to select people; and not so select as you would imagine I hear.

this is a great thread, i lovethat it comes from 1947.

and as technology moves goverments still claim they no nothing.
love the document rather than a picture.

thanks for sharing .

a reply to: Informer1958

a reply to: Informer1958

Very interesting topic and if true, then well. That would be an amazing push towards a brighter future. Interestingly enough a film recently called Midnight Special, expressed just this kind of thing. A world on top of a world, our world. In this photo here.



Which seems plausible really, considering we know life vibrates at different frequencies. Plus we only see specific spectrums, not all. Our very own ghost stories could be pointed towards our blend between our world and theirs.

originally posted by: BlackProject
a reply to: Informer1958

Very interesting topic and if true, then well. That would be an amazing push towards a brighter future. Interestingly enough a film recently called Midnight Special, expressed just this kind of thing. A world on top of a world, our world. In this photo here.

Which seems plausible really, considering we know life vibrates at different frequencies. Plus we only see specific spectrums, not all. Our very own ghost stories could be pointed towards our blend between our world and theirs.

If the OP, or anyone here really, bothered to read the documents OP linked you, everyone would see it is totally bogus. Also important to note that the documents were SENT to the FBI, not created or endorsed by them. They are fan-fiction, literally.



This needs to get off the front page, tired of reading false garbage like this, this place is turning into GLP real fast.

They do not come from any “planet” as we use the word, but from an etheric planet which interpenetrates with our own and is not perceptible to us.

Yeah right. Confirms this as rubbish.

originally posted by: BO XIAN
a reply to: Orionx2

According to

YOUR notions of "sense."

According to

YOUR data set.

According to

YOUR a priori assumptions.

According to

YOUR constructions on reality.

According to

YOUR psychological profiling of critters you've never tested with a battery of tests, nor interviewed.

According to

YOUR presumptions of their having the same or similar values to YOURS.

. . .
. . .

Say what? So aliens that have the tech to travel to Earth are so stupid they will not make sure the planet is safe before they enter? LOL.

originally posted by: schuyler
If someone is truly interested in this stuff and its implications, do what someone else posting here already suggested: Read Isaac Koi's stuff. Why? Because it is literate, informed, not at all sensationalistic, and it has context, It is by far one

Thanks for the very kind words schuyler.

I'm tempted to post a multi-part post about the context regarding this "FBI released" document. However, from prior experience I know that posting a lot of information on Page 6 of a thread means that few people will see/read it. Starting yet another thread about this document is a possibility, but probably not while this thread is still alive since I don't want a new thread to be closed as a duplicate. There have been one or two threads on ATS about this document every year for at least the last 7 years - so I should be safe posting my thread next year.

a reply to: SeaWorthy

Proof, please.

a reply to: IsaacKoi

I am honored by your appearance, IsaacKoi! Wow, The UFO legend of ATS!
Would be equally honored to read anything you wrote, even scribbled on a watermelon rine...

Thanks for showing up!

Blessings to you...




NN

a reply to: Informer1958

The bodies of the visitors, and the craft also, automatically materialize on entering the vibratory rate of our dense matter.

Mmm disagree, I think they jump in time. I don't really know, I do know the thingy I saw flew all the way down to the end of the valley, abruptly changed direction, disappearing into the only cloud in the valley skies that night.

It didn't come out the other side. There must have been something hiding in that cloud. Why a cloud? If they can just disappear and all, why fly to the cloud and disappear into it?

On the physics side, just appearing in space time would mean matter is occupying matter, resulting in a very large explosion.

How do they overcome that? Search me...

a reply to: IsaacKoi

I'm tempted to post a multi-part post about the context regarding this "FBI released" document. However, from prior experience I know that posting a lot of information on Page 6 of a thread means that few people will see/read it.

Are you kidding? Its you. Maybe just a short synopsis...

I'd love to read it.

a reply to: schuyler

IssacKoi is an excellent read...which is why I posted this suggestion and link earler and you obviously didn't read;

posted on Jul, 11 2016 @ 06:34 PM
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a reply to: eisegesis

Here is one of my very fav ATS threads on UFO info by IsaacKoi:

UFO Info

Enjoy!

Misleading OP/Link this document is TO the FBI and in no way reflects anything other than a random persons unusual opinion. Disappointing for sure

a reply to: Informer1958

They're not hiding anything.
They don't know anything.

As for The region they come from is NOT the astral plane but corresponds to the Lakas or Talas. Students of esoteric matters will understand these terms..............nobody in Government wrote that. Its bunkum.

originally posted by: SeaWorthy
a reply to: Informer1958

Someone probably said by now, I have no time to read the thread, but this was a letter written TO the FBI by a person a citizen who was channeling an alien. it was simply filed by the FBi.

Yes, a point made over and over again. This document is being presented as "evidence for Disclosure" and THAT is the problem. It isn't, nor is it particularly credible. But consider context. Why does the FBI even have this letter? Why was it classified?

Because in 1947, when this letter was written and received, UFOs had just been "discovered." Prior to this year the only UFOs were Foo Fighters witnessed by a few airmen in WW II plus a few strange stories of airships from the 19th century. Kenneth Arnold started the storm by describing flying craft near Mt. Rainer that appeared to be flying in a way that reminded him of saucers skipping over water. Strangely enough, the most common description of a UFO is of a saucer, yet Arnold described them more like delta-shaped craft with two trailing edges. That should give you serious pause right there. Why do people describe UFOs as looking like a misinterpretation of what Arnold actually said?

In any case, then as now, people began claiming they knew precisely what these UFOs were, when they likely knew nothing at all. The FBI had no idea what they were dealing with, so what did they do? Classify it all, a natural bureaucratic instinct. It was 1947. Roswell had just happened. Hoover wanted a piece of the action and was being stymied. So the FBI was out of the loop and on a hunt for information. That's why the kept the letter. That's why they classified it. And years later a more sober look at such things was done and the decision made to declassify this and many other similar documents.

So now the public gets hold of stuff like this and what happens? Immediate over reaction and claims of "Disclosure!" when it is nothing of the kind. Not only that, but this letter has been "revealed" many times over the last few years, always with a breathless air of how astounding it is.

So now we have a long thread where people claim to KNOW for a fact that aliens are here, that they created us long ago, and all manner of "facts" that aren't facts at all, but rather unsupported speculation of what might be with no solid facts to back them up. And THAT'S why UFOs have a hard time gaining credibility. Couple that with many cases of outright fraud and you have something many people won't take seriously. It's easy to see why.

I don't get this thread at all. This FBI story has been around for years. It's been pointed out this information is taken out of context. The aliens were not discovered by the FBI. It is a paper that was sent to the FBI from a person that at best only had a vision. If there is other government documents that prove of physical alien visitations, why pass this FBI document out of context as proof. The believers on this thread do not understanding how their lies and deceptions hurt their case. Especially when they want to claim they are the ones of integrity exposing the deception of government. Oh the hypocrisy.

originally posted by: neutronflux
The believers on this thread do not understanding how their lies and deceptions hurt their case. Especially when they want to claim they are the ones of integrity exposing the deception of government. Oh the hypocrisy.

I have a slightly more benign attitude. It's not so much intentional hypocrisy as it is credulity and imagination being interpreted as facts. It's an extremely squirrelly subject with a lot of misinformation and perhaps disinformation. In the face of this I think some people are just tired of it and want to "make a decision." Then, even though they can't back up a thing they say, they start believing in themselves. It's not as if people are using the scientific method when they do this. They don't see their statements as intentional lies and deceptions, and they don't take it well when they are pointed out.