Media in full spin mode: "British regret voting BREXIT".

a reply to: gortex

I really hope there are enough people with principles in parliament to ensure democracy isn't undermined.

a reply to: SprocketUK

But Leave figurehead Boris Johnson downplayed the idea of a new vote. "I'm absolutely clear, a referendum is a referendum. It is a once in a generation, once in a lifetime opportunity and the result determines the outcome," he said. "If we vote to stay, we stay, and that's it. If we vote to leave, we vote to leave, that's it. You can't have neverendums, you have referendums."

Opposition Leader Jeremy Corbyn, who is facing an internal rebellion in his Labour Party in the wake of the vote, has said that the result of the referendum must be respected.
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There will be no second vote mate.

Fingers crossed.

I'm buoyed a bit by some of the political types on telly this morning. I can't bring myself to relax until it's a done deal though. Actually passed by vote in the commons.

originally posted by: woodwardjnr
a reply to: YarlanZey

I think the young have heard enough from the blue rinse brigade, who seem to dominate politics in the uk with their right wing reactionary views. Trying to drag youngsters back to " the good old days of war rations and a time that never existed, except for the tv shows your grand parents still watch

I got this impression initially, but now I noticed this morning that the media (BBC) are focusing on the "affluent divide" with those areas of high unemployment and low income etc. voting Leave, rather the old/young split. They seem to be implying that those voting leave were uninformed and somehow stupid. The BBC have forgotten entirely about Wales, who voted Leave, and they are concentrating on these "thick, racist" English people who are to blame for making this mess by voting out.

Throughout the campaign it was evident that both sides had less to say about the "facts" and truth and more about slurring the other. If Remain had concentrated on examining the pros with staying in the EU instead of slagging off the other side things might have been different. Cameron had his chance to make a deal, but he came back having failed. They could have been telling us where they were going to go from here to secure a better more democratic deal with the EU, which I understand is what people wanted.

What needs to happen now is for the slurs and blame games to stop. The government needs to show leadership after Cameron's announcement to step down. The opposition should stop slagging off Corbyn who should put pressure on the government to do this whilst making sure that they facilitate the process of leaving the EU in the best way possible.

Mainly I think that this was result was about lost confidence in our government. It is a lesson that could have been avoided if they had been seen to be listening to the electorate in the first place and showing this through their actions.

Last word - what is Tony Blair doing? He took us into conflict with his fake WMDs. Why should we listen to him now - what is his angle on it?

a reply to: YarlanZey

Last word - what is Tony Blair doing? He took us into conflict with his fake WMDs. Why should we listen to him now - what is his angle on it?

Really?
I mean, I'm not a Brit, but really?

originally posted by: PhyllidaDavenport
Just think for a moment.....it could mean......
Re-opening of coal mines once we are no longer bound to import coal from Europe
Resurgence of British Steel
Maybe even re-opening of Leyland/Ford/Rover (we were after all the 2nd largest car manufacturer in the 1960's-70's)
Perhaps ship/boat building will recover with the prospect of less complicated fishing rights
Jobs for all nurses once qualified instead of importing them from Spain
Tourism gets a boost as more people holiday in the UK due to the euro conversion rate
More jobs in industry and manufacturing if we import less not hamstrung by quotas
Generally more jobs if foreign workers leave as many have said they will now (or if we adopt the rule of fill the jobs by a Brit first as many other countries do)

If its handled correctly sensibly and with foresight there's no reason why these things couldn't happen in time....just imagine...you never know!

Lets hope so

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: YarlanZey

Last word - what is Tony Blair doing? He took us into conflict with his fake WMDs. Why should we listen to him now - what is his angle on it?

Really?
I mean, I'm not a Brit, but really?

He is pro-EU, but after WMDs he disappeared and left the country in disgrace. I was asking if there is any other reason for him being dragged into the debate other than to say that the voters have made the wrong decision and just another voice to to rub their noses in it.

a reply to: YarlanZey
Isn't a bit premature to be saying it was the wrong decision?

Well, dunno about anyone else, but i'm not regretting my leave vote.

Seems pretty great really.

The outrage from the US regressive left i'm seeing just sweetens the deal. Must've been a good thing If they're pissed about it.

a reply to: Ohanka

The outrage from the US regressive left i'm seeing just sweetens the deal. Must've been a good thing If they're pissed about it.

Ignorant attitude.

It's like saying that if people say it's dumb to believe in "chemtrails" that means that "chemtrails" are real.

If you want to at least sound intelligent provide a reason why it's a good idea.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: YarlanZey
Isn't a bit premature to be saying it was the wrong decision?

I'm not saying that it was wrong or right - and only time will tell. It is the media who are saying that it was the wrong decision and that all who voted for it are thick and racist (which was a view encouraged throughout the campaigning beforehand from Remain). There are a lot of disgruntled Remain campaigners who didn't get their way. I don't know if it would be the same if they had won with Leave making a fuss. No doubt Cameron would be seen as a "hero" saving us from the neanderthals wanting out, despite the EU referendum probably being the only promise to the electorate that he has ever kept.

Because it was assumed by everyone from the announcement of the EU referendum that the outcome would be Remain, the result of Leave actually came as quite a shock.

a reply to: YarlanZey

It seems you have a reasonable point of view.
Which makes it odd that you would summon Blair.

Again, as a Yank.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: YarlanZey
Isn't a bit premature to be saying it was the wrong decision?

Any decision that doesn't fit with Blair's vision of the world is a wrong decision.
In just under 2 week we get the release of the Chilcot Inquiry Blair will have plenty to say about that too , hopefully in front of a Judge.

a reply to: gortex

Any decision that doesn't fit with Blair's vision of the world is a wrong decision.

I understand that.

What I don't understand is what Blair's opinion of Brexit has to do with reality.

a reply to: Phage

What I don't understand is what Blair's opinion of Brexit has to do with reality

That makes two of us mate.

a reply to: Phage

Blair has no right to comment. The man is a villain and a liar, a warmonger and a profiteer. He is everything I despise about politics, and most of all I despise the fact that for a brief moment in history, between being voted in, and the beginning of the descent into madness that was the war on terror, there was hope that things might be better than they turned out to be.

The man should be flogged publically, have the names of every one of our servicemen whom he sent to die for little to no reason tattooed on his body, and be forced to walk about in only his pants for the rest of his days, come rain or shine, so that all can see his shame.

a reply to: TrueBrit
Come on off that fence.
Tell us how you really feel.

Hey! Said my name is called disturbance
I'll shout and scream, I'll kill the king, I'll rail at all his servants
Well, what can a poor boy do

a reply to: TrueBrit

I'll settle for an all expenses paid trip to the Hague , it's where war criminals belong.

a reply to: WeAre0ne

Maybe you are not clear on the relationship between the UK and America but america is a corporation of the UK. Your land is given liberty to do as you wish for now, hence your statue. The Queen of England reign the seas and wherever those seas touch land, she has right over.

But you would not know that.

a reply to: BlackProject

Your land is given liberty

What?