Well this is idiotic

a reply to: shredderofsouls

Can't believe the amount of disrespect some people have for a .22. I have 2 rifles and a pistol that cycle .22's and I can assure everyone that they are not toys.

I can't see why the kid should have any problem getting one as long as he gets the proper license and training for it. I had to do the same thing at that age; and come to think of it, I was also drinking and smoking at that age, so there is that. My point is, there are more pressing matters than a boy and his gun.

a reply to: shredderofsouls

Virginia law:

A person must be at least 18 years of age to purchase a rifle or shotgun from a licensed firearms dealer. To purchase a handgun from a licensed firearms dealer, you must be at least 21 years of age, pursuant to federal law.

That is for a licensed firearms dealer as they have to follow federal regulations...HOWEVER

There is no minimum age for a purchase of a rifle of this type.

Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence

Virginia prohibits any person under age 18 from knowingly and intentionally possessing or transporting a handgun or assault firearm, or a shotgun “which will hold more than seven rounds of the longest ammunition for which it is chambered,” anywhere in Virginia.1 This section does not apply to any person:
While in his or her home or on his or her property or in the home or on the property of his or her parent, grandparent, or legal guardian;
On another person’s property if he or she has the landowner’s written permission on his or her person while on such property, and his or her parent or legal guardian has granted permission;
Who, while accompanied by an adult, is at, or going to and from, a lawful shooting range or firearms educational class, provided that the weapons are unloaded while being transported; or
Actually engaged in lawful hunting or going to and from a hunting area or preserve, provided that the weapons are unloaded while being transported.
Virginia law also prohibits anyone from furnishing a handgun to a person under age 18, having good cause to believe that he or she is a minor. This rule does not apply to a transfer made between family members or for the purpose of engaging in a sporting event or activity.2
There is no minimum age to purchase or possess rifles in Virginia.

Because at his age kids in Virginia typically hunt. Not exactly the purview of an actor.

This entire segment is a propaganda piece that makes it seem like you can do this anywhere. You can't. In the state of Kansas you will be denied the sale. In the sate of Nevada, while private sales are legal, knowingly selling a gun to a minor is considered a felony.

Got a 12 gauge shotgun for my birthday when I turned 12.
Used to ride on my bicyle down the backroads with it slung over my shoulder going hunting.
Never caught a second glance.
The good old days.

shredderofsouls

Where the hell are this kid's parents? He's out trying to buy lottery tickets, booze and porn but settled on a gun when all else failed... meanwhile his parents are where?

My guess is working behind the scenes to shoot this farce.

originally posted by: VashTheStampede

An AR-15 fires a .22 cal. Just a high powered version of it.

Not quite,the difference is quite substantial.

Sooo, what caliber does an AR-15 fire then?

a reply to: Vector99

.223 and/or 5.56mm

a reply to: JinMI

Which basically is a .22 with higher firing power. Oh yea, the actual bullet weighs a hair more too.

Basically the same bullet with different firing method and power.

"Shall not be infringed", blah, blah, blah. You know the drill. Presumably there are no age restrictions on guns whatsoever, because obviously that would be hypocritical.

originally posted by: ksiezyc
a reply to: iTruthSeeker

LOL where do you see anything I believe? I said what a comedian mentioned. But no, the .22 isn't exactly the deadliest bullet...tons of people? How many thousands or millions?

For starters, just using the internet would give you an idea--at the very least, that the .22 (and .22lr) are quite deadly rounds.

The Truth About Guns
gunpolicy.org

Sure, those don't give you an exact count, but using deductive reasoning and considering how cheap the rifles and ammunition can be for .22lr, it's easy to estimate that thousands of people certainly have died at the hands of a .22 pistol or rifle.

originally posted by: VashTheStampede
Not quite,the difference is quite substantial.

You do understand that a .22 and a .223 round are nearly identical in diameter, right? That's what the caliber references--the diameter of the actual bullet (in inches). The casing length, diameter, and powder capacity is NOT what is referenced in the caliber number, nor is the length of the bullet--it really is just the diameter.

I'm guessing that you don't know that a .380 and a 9mm are also the same caliber, do you? The .380 can also be referred to as a "9mm short." The bullets have the same diameter, but nothing else is the same.

Just because your picture shows the massive difference in the totality of the round does not negate the reality that the calibers of the bullet--you know, the little lead thing that actually leaves the barrel--are for all intents and purposes, the same.

Apparently some of you don't have audio. It was filmed as an experiment to see what would happen in those circumstances of the kid trying to buy different items, and sadly, we see what happened.

Imagine if he bought it for the purpose of taking it to school because he was in some adolescent rage, or was mentally ill and delusional and paranoid? He's thirteen. He's a CHILD.

Oh right. That doesn't matter, because 2nd.

Anybody who thinks this is okay is blind, and unable to acknowledge that your "good ole days" are OVER.
We live in a different world now, and we must accept that we have to roll with it, and make some changes.

a reply to: ladyinwaiting

This is a CNN story sooooo there's that. Never take them at face value.

You need an ID showing you are over 18 or accompanied by a parent/guardian (must have verifiable proof of guardianship) for the child to be there.

His mother was with him as was stated at the beginning thus the reason for the gun transaction.

Yes he's a child and a child of perfect age to teach invaluable lessons of firearm safety and proper shooting practices. Good for him!!

a reply to: JinMI

Oct 1, 2013 - Minimum Age for Gun Possession: Federal law prohibits, with certain exceptions*, the possession of a handgun or handgun ammunition by any person under the age of 18. Federal law provides no minimum age for the possession of long guns or long gun ammunition.

So, I guess "long guns' aren't confined to bb guns and rifles to shoot squirrels anymore? Do you have an inclination to redefine "long guns", or is this okay with you?
smartgunlaws.org...

a reply to: ladyinwaiting

It's completely fine with me. Gun hunting age in my state is 14.

a reply to: ladyinwaiting

Apparently some of you don't have audio

Apparently you don't have the common sense to realize the actual purchase itself was NOT filmed.

But hey let's just run wild with what CNN said, because they put together a biased story.

Big deal.

In Chicago, 13 year olds buy guns all the time in the back alleys.

And they *DO* shoot people.

And it's illegal as Hell too !!!!

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: ladyinwaiting

It's completely fine with me. Gun hunting age in my state is 14.

Hm. Columbine.... oh nevermind about that. Kids go nuts sometimes, right? Guess we'll just have to take our chances.

This entire conversation is so silly. (not you JinM), but the entire national discussion.

________________

Nobody is asking for your guns. Nobody is trying to abolish the second amendment, and you know that. Sometimes I think you are just looking for something to argue about, by making the strawman argument that the government wants to abolish the 2nd. Never has that been remotely discussed among serious politicians.

But now we must face the horrible reality that people are dying from lunatics, it's freaking TRENDY, and if there is something we can do to prevent that, or at least reduce the occurrence, then we need to try.

Children, mentally ill persons, and potential terrorists should not be allowed to buy guns. Especially assault weapons.
Period.

Now what does that have to do with most of you? NOTHING. It doesn't effect you whatsoever, except perhaps your or your loved ones as a potential

victim

a reply to: EternalShadow

THIS, totally.

As well as the fact that smoking, drinking alcohol, and buying firearms all have an age limit. Hunting does start around 12. There is a whole slew of reasons this thread is more idiotic than the fact that he can buy a firearm but not smokes or drinks.

Some people need to get a life and get off the anti-gun rhetoric already...

I'm not looking to get drawn into a gun debate, been there - goes nowhere.

But on the point of a .22 not being dangerous...wasn't that what the zodiac killer used?

Weren't people living in fear of him? People are still trying to identify him...how can it be classed as not dangerous by some people?

I think I was 11 when I bought my first gun. Took it home across the handlebars in it's box because I didn't have money for a case.

50 years on and still haven't killed anybody. I guess I'm a great Liberal Letdown.