islam, because i am sick of the lies

Originally posted by Thorfinn Skullsplitter
Yeah, but Christianity is the all truthful, all loving, non-murdering, super religion, right? Give me a break...

Christianity? Yes, it is. Humans that make it into a religion, form governments or super-sized organizations (add cheese, please) with money and power? Aw, Hell naw!!

The rocks that you guys like to throw in reference to what "The Church" did way back when is nothing to what Satan does today in order to ensnare those with little personal knowledge of the Bible and a close relationship with God.
Does the name "Robert Tilton" or "Jimmy Baker" come to mind? How about the "Name it/Claim it" "Christianity" going around?

Satan has a totally different approach in dealing with believers so as to render them impotent and of little threat to him.

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YOU BELEIVE IN JACK CHICK'S SAYING?
GOEBBELS IS MORE CREDIBLE!!!!!!!!!!!

Was it not Wasp's and Catholics that:
1.) Enslaved Africa
2.) Virtually eliminated the Native Tribes of America
3.) Attacked Vietnam
4.) Attacked Korea
5.) Attacked Arabia (Iraq)
6.) Attacked China (Boxer's Rebellion)
7.) Nuked Japan

Or name another country/religion/ethniticity that went to war with soo many other nationalities. Since Christ-gopher Columbus say that the world was round, Armies was sent out to devastate. Not just the Crusades, but Colonialism. You may want to separate religion from politics, but the religion of the leader must be taken into consideration. Kill one day, then take confession, and kill the next.

Is not this country legalizing Homosexuality, while forbidding polygomy - it was the other way around in the Bible. Did not God give man permission to eat of every tree on the planet earth - except one, yet many are forbidden in this "War on drugs".

Did Not Jesus teach to Love your enemies, yet the USA goes to war with them. When did Iraq ever attack the USA or any of the 7 countries listed above (Excluding Pearl Harbor). The answer will very soon be NOW.

Originally posted by Thomas Crowne
Ankh, you have not a clue about Christianity, obviously. The Christian is taught how to behave with the rest of the world in the New Testament. We aren't here to kill anyone for not accepting, we are to spread the Word and set an example.

Where do I get my information from, as far as Islam being the most dangerous place to live next? This place we call eart, where else? Whether you sre looking at the Phillipines (guerrillas), Saudi Arabia (go ahead, convert to Christianity there and watch your family die by the literal sword), Sudan (slavery, rape, torture and death for those who are not Muslim), Indonesia; don't play stupid, and don't throw up the Crusades or modern day countries that are not Islamic, Hindu or Buddhist states so therefore you call them Christian. The same bunch of two faced people who demand this is not a Chistian nation will turn around and blame whatever the U.S. does on it being a Christian nation.

[Edited on 19-6-2003 by Ankh]

Certainly, this is a more accurate summation...

TC-If you re-read my post, you'll see that I mentioned that the purging of non-believers is in the older versions of the Bible, and that the New Testament is the softer, fuzzier version of Christianity....

The older books were much more wrath of God, fire and brimstone, death to the non-believers....

My point being, that at some point, many religions support conversion of the world, or death/damnation to those who don't join.

What's done is done.
It doesn't matter about relationships between Islam and Christianity in the past.

Christianity seems to have moved on. Grown up.
Islam doesn't seem to have moved with the rate of growth of man.

It's holding him back.

This doesn't mean to say that Islam is a bad religion. It just needs to be rethought before being reapplied.

This applies to everyone:

There's only, one him, plus ain't none of y'all confronting him. So blind in our own minds we wouldn't even know God if we confronted him
And, I read your books know all your remixes to the bottom
There's only, one him, plus ain't none of y'all confronting him
-Trick Daddy, Thug Holiday

Originally posted by Wintermorg
90%-95% OF ALL THE CONFLICTS ON THIS PLANET TODAY
INVOLVE MUSLIMS FIGHTING NON-MUSLIMS OR EACH OTHER!
ISLAM: "Religion of Peace?"

I cannot agree with that anymore, well put Wintermorg

Religion is Mental Illness
"Philosopher Bertrand Russell wrote:

"'Religion is based . . . mainly upon fear . . . fear of the mysterious, fear of defeat, fear of death. Fear is the parent of cruelty, and therefore it is no wonder if cruelty and religion have gone hand in hand . . . . My own view on religion is that of Lucretius. I regard it as a disease born of fear and as a source of untold misery to the human race.'"

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NEED I SAY MORE? RELIGION EQUALS RACISM, SEXISM, SPECIESISM, SELF-HATRED, EXPLOITATION, SLAVERY, WAR. WE THE PEOPLE OF THE EARTH ARE ONE. NO RACES, NO RELIGIONS, NO DUALITY, NO WAR.

ALL BELIEFS ARE DOUBTS. KNOW THE TRUTH. STOP THE KILLING!! GO BEYOND BELIEF INTO THE KNOWN! BECOME RELIGIOUSNESS. MEDITATE.

� 2001 Acharya S


Put that in your pipe and smoke it !

sal sal




[Edited on 21-6-2003 by Salem]

I mean, I know that not all Muslim people are violent, but damn, I know 2 Muslim people and they're both very nice. But it's kind of hard when all I've heard in the news for the past year is stuff about Muslim violence against non-Muslim believers and so much killing and death over religious beliefs. I know that religion keeps peace between people, but it also brings so much death. When is all this killing between Muslims and non-Muslims going to end?

Originally posted by Salem
Religion is Mental Illness
"Philosopher Bertrand Russell wrote:

"'Religion is based . . . mainly upon fear . . . fear of the mysterious, fear of defeat, fear of death. Fear is the parent of cruelty, and therefore it is no wonder if cruelty and religion have gone hand in hand . . . . My own view on religion is that of Lucretius. I regard it as a disease born of fear and as a source of untold misery to the human race.'"

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NEED I SAY MORE? RELIGION EQUALS RACISM, SEXISM, SPECIESISM, SELF-HATRED, EXPLOITATION, SLAVERY, WAR. WE THE PEOPLE OF THE EARTH ARE ONE. NO RACES, NO RELIGIONS, NO DUALITY, NO WAR.

ALL BELIEFS ARE DOUBTS. KNOW THE TRUTH. STOP THE KILLING!! GO BEYOND BELIEF INTO THE KNOWN! BECOME RELIGIOUSNESS. MEDITATE.

� 2001 Acharya S


Put that in your pipe and smoke it !

sal sal

[Edited on 21-6-2003 by Salem]

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Dear Salem,

As I said before in a previous post that you have chosen to ignore, for it was boring and meaningless to you, you women, as a species. All though I choose to place upon a pedestal and worship as one would an Idol in the rath of GOD.
Have neglected the honesty and truth of Man that requested your existience through the pain of our removed rib!
You request Truth, and when it is delivered, "You can not handle it" yet we as Men continue to love because from our chest, our lung, the breath of life, we requested GOD to create thou for our enjoyment.
How FREAK'IN stupid is man

tut tut

Originally posted by tututkamen

Originally posted by Salem
Dear Salem,

As I said before in a previous post that you have chosen to ignore, for it was boring and meaningless to you, you women, as a species. All though I choose to place upon a pedestal and worship as one would an Idol in the rath of GOD.
Have neglected the honesty and truth of Man that requested your existience through the pain of our removed rib!
You request Truth, and when it is delivered, "You can not handle it" yet we as Men continue to love because from our chest, our lung, the breath of life, we requested GOD to create thou for our enjoyment.
How FREAK'IN stupid is man

tut tut

As I said before in a previous post that you have chosen to ignore/

Sorry I don't know what post you're referring to. It's probably a huge misunderstanding, I was to my cottage two days ago.

/for it was boring and meaningless to you/

Maybe I missed nothing ? ( just kidding )

/you women, as a species/

Women ? Oops huge problem here, maybe my avatar confused you, but I'm a men. ( coconuts and huge banana included ) What kind of women should take two lesbians for avatar ? Let me know if you know some

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/Have neglected the honesty and truth of Man that requested your existience through the pain of our removed rib!/

What a odd opinion about chicks ? Are you mormon ? ( kidding again )

Well to be serious, I choosed my avatar because my girlfriend told me that it should be an appropriate one for such a depravate boy like me, Sorry again if you get confuse I'll change it soon !

For your post, just tell me wich it is and I'll read it.

The goal of my previous post was not to provocate any one but to make realize how stupid religion wars are.

So, Anyway

Peace Tut !

[Edited on 21-6-2003 by Salem]

[Edited on 21-6-2003 by Salem]

Originally posted by nyeff
I still don't see it as a war on Muslims.Even if the war was for oil,that is greed.Not killing people because we believe in differant things.We went out of our way to avoid civillian deaths.I think if Iraq,Syria,Iran could attack us,they would try to kill civillians.
And I don't buy everything our government tells us.

I agree with that basic idea: It was not & never has been a "4th Crusade" because it wasn't started because of religion...However, national rulers & governments seem to be hung up on the idea that their servants & citizens have to know that "God is on their side" when they decide to commit the mass murder of another people.

Go figure the logic behind that? God's own Commandments tell us not to kill, but so many people are willing to commit mas murder in God's name.

Originally posted by Salem
The goal of my previous post was not to provocate any one but to make realize how stupid religion wars are.

Bravo! Not only are religious wars stupid, but *all* wars are stupid unless fought in self-defense...But then again, if the *only* wars were for defense, then there'd be no "offensive" wars to create a need for a defensive war...

First, not all religons say kill and convert. Never read of witches(real ones, not the ones christians said were witches so they could torture and kill them) doing/saying that. Of course, they don't have a book. Same with druids. They did have human sacrifices, but was an honor and could refuse.

But notice this. No Book=Peaceful religon. Book=War, death, torture, killings, slaughter, so forth.

Now, religous wars/wars for religon. Crusades lead by catholic church. Ordered by the Popes at that time. Spanish Inquisition, again the church. KKK war on everyone, this time WASPs. Islam against everyone, going on since created. Witch trials, again I saw that over 70% were done by the church. Killing the heathans of America/South America was the church lead by the Spanish. Either conform or killed. In upper America, depends on where you were at. Some places it was for land and such, but in Georgia and such it was to kill the devil's own. Hindu in extreme cases have very little respect for their women. Buddist have been in some wars, but almost all defense.

Hmmm, the thou shalt not kill kill the most. Well, actually it isn't christianity, since that no longer exists. It seems it is the religon of Catholicism that kills the most. It was them who killed you for saying we weren't flat or weren't the center. It was them who put Galileo under house arrest since he said he was wrong. If he hadn't, off with his head. And I say christianity no longer exists since I don't see them anymore. I see Methodist, Luthern, Catholic, Presbitarian, Protestant, Espicospal, and about a few thousand other religons that broke off from christianity, but no christians. Never seen the Christian Church. Seen The Church of Luthern, Seen Espicospal Church of Toledo, but no Christian Church. Ask what they are? I'm a Methodist, not Christian.

Originally posted by James the Lesser
First, not all religons say kill and convert. Never read of witches(real ones, not the ones christians said were witches so they could torture and kill them) doing/saying that. Of course, they don't have a book. Same with druids. They did have human sacrifices, but was an honor and could refuse.

But notice this. No Book=Peaceful religon. Book=War, death, torture, killings, slaughter, so forth.

Now, religous wars/wars for religon. Crusades lead by catholic church. Ordered by the Popes at that time. Spanish Inquisition, again the church. KKK war on everyone, this time WASPs. Islam against everyone, going on since created. Witch trials, again I saw that over 70% were done by the church. Killing the heathans of America/South America was the church lead by the Spanish. Either conform or killed. In upper America, depends on where you were at. Some places it was for land and such, but in Georgia and such it was to kill the devil's own. Hindu in extreme cases have very little respect for their women. Buddist have been in some wars, but almost all defense.

Hmmm, the thou shalt not kill kill the most. Well, actually it isn't christianity, since that no longer exists. It seems it is the religon of Catholicism that kills the most. It was them who killed you for saying we weren't flat or weren't the center. It was them who put Galileo under house arrest since he said he was wrong. If he hadn't, off with his head. And I say christianity no longer exists since I don't see them anymore. I see Methodist, Luthern, Catholic, Presbitarian, Protestant, Espicospal, and about a few thousand other religons that broke off from christianity, but no christians. Never seen the Christian Church. Seen The Church of Luthern, Seen Espicospal Church of Toledo, but no Christian Church. Ask what they are? I'm a Methodist, not Christian.

Ok.? the term Protestant refers to one who has left catholocism...in case you did not know. Martin Luther?


Of the witches(may place here satinist) I have known, killing is their business, whether it be animals or people.
The body of Christ was formed when Jesus set his apostles forth to preach the gospel of salvation to the world, and our aceptance of which.

Islam the religion of Peace? Yeah whatever.

They even lie about what Islam and Muslim means.

Neither means "peace" but Submission.

Islam is a religion of peace.
Any religion can be a religion of peace.

It all depends on how you as a man take that religion and use it.

wow i missed the show. sh*t man.

Ankh why must you post so much garbage?

America has yet to fight an Unjustified war. Vietnam came close but the intent was to stop communism, which is good justification, because communism is the enslavement of mankind (look at china).

Iraq fought for years with Iran killing over a million people.

Saddam killed over 300,000 of his own people, MURDERED them to stay in power.

We should have hung him by his thumbs.

If we didn't blast him to tiny bits, or he didn't escape, his "people" would have been dragging him through the streets by his ball-sack.