Gun George Zimmerman used to kill Trayvon Martin sells for $346,000 in online auction

originally posted by: JohnthePhilistine
a reply to: JimiBlack

The man is easy to find. Don't you have busfare?

He's not that easy to find and you seem to think I'm spouting internet bravado. Nothing could be further from the truth and if you knew me, you would know that. Since you don't know me don't make assumptions. Having said that, I'm not going to hunt the punk down and give him a dirtnap. And I'm not going to incriminate myself on some website. I'm not stupid, and the post of mine that you are referring to, I meant what I said, man. No bravado here.

a reply to: GemmyMcGemJew

I don't play the race card, so you can miss me with that $#!!. And I know about Ats. Became a member in 07, and after being offline for awhile, forgot my password, changed email since and had to create a new account. I'm not new here and don't need you to tell me anything about Ats. I remember times back in the day that people were not so overt with their dislike of people of color, blacks in particular. I mentioned skin color because you asked me some crap about Nazis and I straightened that. As far as my username is concerned, Jimi Hendrix is one of my favorite guitarists and Black is my mother's maiden name. I never use my race as a cop-out or excuse. Check my posting history. As a matter of fact my DNA is Black, Cherokee and White so race isn't a factor for me and never has been. And I also think blm is a ridiculous movement. That answer your questions?

He's a free man, leave him alone people. Jfc

I can see the 2a tards are out in full effect, backing up the guy who will make every other legal owner look like a racist dbag, wanna be cop.

This joker makes a really juicy op topic.

Sweet

originally posted by: Mandroid7
He's a free man, leave him alone people. Jfc

I can see the 2a tards are out in full effect, backing up the guy who will make every other legal owner look like a racist dbag, wanna be cop.

This joker makes a really juicy op topic.

Sweet

I never said Zimmerman was racist. Never said that. I do, however, think that he is an a$$hole of the highest order. Yeah he's a free man and yeah it's his property. I get that. Still doesn't negate that this dude's post-trial actions speak volumes as to what kind of man Zimmerman is. And I use the term "man" very loosely.

originally posted by: JimiBlack

originally posted by: Mandroid7
He's a free man, leave him alone people. Jfc

I can see the 2a tards are out in full effect, backing up the guy who will make every other legal owner look like a racist dbag, wanna be cop.

This joker makes a really juicy op topic.

Sweet

I never said Zimmerman was racist. Never said that. I do, however, think that he is an a$$hole of the highest order. Yeah he's a free man and yeah it's his property. I get that. Still doesn't negate that this dude's post-trial actions speak volumes as to what kind of man Zimmerman is. And I use the term "man" very loosely.

If I misunderstood your post, my apologies .

originally posted by: JimiBlack

originally posted by: Mandroid7
He's a free man, leave him alone people. Jfc

I can see the 2a tards are out in full effect, backing up the guy who will make every other legal owner look like a racist dbag, wanna be cop.

This joker makes a really juicy op topic.

Sweet

I never said Zimmerman was racist. Never said that. I do, however, think that he is an a$$hole of the highest order. Yeah he's a free man and yeah it's his property. I get that. Still doesn't negate that this dude's post-trial actions speak volumes as to what kind of man Zimmerman is. And I use the term "man" very loosely.

Yeah, I think you might have me mixed up, I never quoted you man.

Yeah, this guy is a bad dude. A guy that has the actual seld defense situation happen to him, will not be cocky afterwards. It is blatant disrespect to all involved families.

This guy is an extreme danger to the 2nd.

He is a puppet for the cause. His actions can and will be associated with firearms owners, and will be used against them.

It torques me to see enthusiasts stick up for him. It feels like they are defending the case they may be in.
The 2nd is VERY important to maintain, and it isn't helping with this yahoo running around.
He reminds me of the guys with assaultLife stickers with the ar on it on the back of their cars.
Ghetto embarrassment for responsible owners.

Guy beats women and old men. He is a coward.

My take on his case, strictly an opinion, as well.

He was playing cop. Ignored dispatch, He was following another man out of uniform. Lost the fight, shot him.

He walked on an overcharge.

He has walked into the loving arms of the kkk or some other white trash group.

Idk, but he should have let it go. Guy prob has a major target on his back now.

originally posted by: Mandroid7

originally posted by: JimiBlack

originally posted by: Mandroid7
He's a free man, leave him alone people. Jfc

I can see the 2a tards are out in full effect, backing up the guy who will make every other legal owner look like a racist dbag, wanna be cop.

This joker makes a really juicy op topic.

Sweet

I never said Zimmerman was racist. Never said that. I do, however, think that he is an a$$hole of the highest order. Yeah he's a free man and yeah it's his property. I get that. Still doesn't negate that this dude's post-trial actions speak volumes as to what kind of man Zimmerman is. And I use the term "man" very loosely.

Yeah, I think you might have me mixed up, I never quoted you man.

Yeah, this guy is a bad dude. A guy that has the actual seld defense situation happen to him, will not be cocky afterwards. It is blatant disrespect to all involved families.

This guy is an extreme danger to the 2nd.

He is a puppet for the cause. His actions can and will be associated with firearms owners, and will be used against them.

It torques me to see enthusiasts stick up for him. It feels like they are defending the case they may be in.
The 2nd is VERY important to maintain, and it isn't helping with this yahoo running around.
He reminds me of the guys with assaultLife stickers with the ar on it on the back of their cars.
Ghetto embarrassment for responsible owners.

Guy beats women and old men. He is a coward.

My take on his case, strictly an opinion, as well.

He was playing cop. Ignored dispatch, He was following another man out of uniform. Lost the fight, shot him.

He walked on an overcharge.

He has walked into the loving arms of the kkk or some other white trash group.

Idk, but he should have let it go. Guy prob has a major target on his back now.

I can agree with that, man. And again, my apologies.

Well, so he sold the gun, and got a good amount for it. Good. He can use that however he pleases, to pay down his legal fees, or to support some political cause. He's a free citizen, and the gun is his property. he has every right to sell it, and those bidding to purchase it had every right to do that. People collect things for various reasons, and this is no different.

As to the heated opinions on the man himself, seriously? Again with that? Thread after thread after thread on the topic, at the time, and it was clear to most that he acted in self defense. The recordings, the testimony, everything pointed to this. Too many people get so caught up in the race factor, or the age factor, that they cannot see the facts. The fact is, he saw a suspicious person, in a neighborhood plagued by such people, with break-ins and, I believe, at least one assault. He called 911 to report this, as he should have done. He was, as a free citizen, under no obligation to NOT walk anywhere in HIS neighborhood that he chose to walk. There was no legal right for the 911 operator, NOT a cop, to tell him anything of the sort, either. They can advise, only. IN fact, after advised to not follow, he stopped. He was jumped by this teen, who was no "child", but full grown. He was attacked viciously, and ALL witness reports confirmed this. Even those who wanted to believe he was the assailant, in their testimonies, stated that the one who fit his description was the one being attacked.

I don't care how old this guy was, or what color either one of them was. This was self defense, and the jury found that to be the case because that's what the evidence showed. Watching long hours of testimony showed that to be the case. I did that. Hours and hours of the stuff. My older son was very close to Martin''s age at the time, within a year, give or take, and I wouldn't have condoned that sort of behavior from him. and, no, Martin was not defending himself from some guy that pulled a gun. He attacked someone who spotted him, likely casing homes, and the gun was pulled only after Zimmerman had no other option. His head was being smashed repeatedly into pavement, and he could have been killed, had he not acted when he did. Frankly, I'd have shot sooner. He called for help first, which didn't come in time. Claiming the man was racist, when his past actions prove otherwise, or claiming that he was looking for trouble, simply for wanting to keep his neighborhood safe, isn't reasonable.

I am appalled at how many still wish violence on this man, for being someone who refused to just lay down and die.

The prosecution's failure was that they had no case. Their character witnesses were a joke, and the actual witnesses' testimonies backed self defense, every single time. What happened to denying ignorance, people? At least a few can see the facts here.

a reply to: tommo39

While sad, he's allowed to do whatever he wants with the gun (personally, I feel a bit better knowing that it's one less gun the guy has). He obviously knew that something like this would go for auction.

As to why it sold for so much, it also makes sense to me: High profile case, lots of controversy, and someone gets to walk away saying "Yep, I bought a piece of that trial". Some people just collect odd things.

Do I disagree with the reasons for listing it up for auction? Yep - Now, if he decided to give the proceeds to a legitimate charity I might be inclined to change my tune.

-fossilera

originally posted by: In4ormant

originally posted by: Kali74
That gun is viewed as a trophy and it's disgusting.

The money used is going to go to helping cops fight Black Lives Matter? 71% of the cops killed this year have been killed by white men.

Again, his right as a free man to support who he wants.

He deserved to be hounded into jail like O.J who just couldn't go live the rest of his miserable life in some tropical paradise after legally getting away with murder, like him he loved the spot light so I am keeping my fingers crossed that he'll fk-up in away that finally get him there, and may his cell mate be an MMA fighter with lots of lust for his punkazz.

Not worth the dirt on my shoes.

originally posted by: tommo39
www.abc.net.au...

A Florida neighbourhood watchman has sold the gun he used to kill unarmed black teenager Trayvon Martin for $US250,000 ($346,000), auctioneers say.

In announcing the sale, Mr Zimmerman had said that a portion of the proceeds would serve to "fight BLM (Black Lives Matter) violence against law enforcement officer".

I personally find it difficult to comprehend why a person would want this murder gun let alone pay $US250,000 for.What will the winning bidder DO with this weapon, it should have been destroyed to not make it a "prized trophy"that it appears to be now. Is this an Americian fad or what am i missing?

Racism is big business in this country.

originally posted by: LadyGreenEyes
and it was clear to most that he acted in self defense. The recordings, the testimony, everything pointed to this.

No its not clear.

Its not clear at all.

Thats why I would have if I was in the jury have voted not guilty. due to reasonble doubt Because its not clear at all what went down that night either way.

originally posted by: crazyewok

originally posted by: LadyGreenEyes
and it was clear to most that he acted in self defense. The recordings, the testimony, everything pointed to this.

No its not clear.

Its not clear at all.

Thats why I would have if I was in the jury have voted not guilty. due to reasonble doubt Because its not clear at all what went down that night either way.

Well, it seemed clear to me. I can see your point, however. There was plenty of doubt when it came to the accusation of murder, for certain!

In my case, I really did listen to long hours of testimony, reports, and the like, from the trial. Everything I could find, because I wanted to know the facts, instead of the promoted scenario. Based on all I saw, and on all we could learn of the characters of the two people involved, I believe it truly was a case of self defense, on the part of Zimmerman. That, as a mother, with a son who was very close to the age of Martin at that time.

For the part of the conflict that was witnesses, to some degree, it was clear that Zimmerman was on the ground, and Martin was attacking him. Before that, we are left to making educated guesses, based on the information we have.

I do respect your opinions, even in cases where we might not agree. Here, my gut tells me it wasn't murder.

a reply to: LadyGreenEyes

I listened to the case too from start to finish.

I agree it 100% wasnt murder.

There was no premeditation.


The prosecutions biggest mistake was to aim for a murder charge.

They should have gone for a lower manslaughter charge. But even then? The prosecutions case was too full of holes.
A good prosecutor though could have made a convincing 2nd degree manslaughter charge.

a reply to: crazyewok

I can understand your position, though I don't agree with it. To me, it looked like a clear case of self defense. The guy clearly wasn't racist, based on his past actions. He also didn't draw and shoot until he was injured, and even then, only after he called for help that never came. Between the witness reports, from those that saw part of the conflict, and the 911 call recordings, it's pretty clear that Zimmerman was the one calling for help. Plus, manslaughter would mean the killing was not justifiable. In the position Zimmerman was in, I'd have feared for my life. By law, that means shooting would be justified, and thus not manslaughter.

Now, if you don't believe it was self defense, manslaughter would make sense. What about the case makes you doubt the self defense as a reason?