Salon's Pedophile Agenda MUST BE STOPPED

originally posted by: WeAreAWAKE

If not cutting yourself...what the hell is a mental disorder?

Christianity?



To these people, anyway. It seems that nothing qualifies as crazy anymore, other than religion--a highly acute form of schizophrenia affecting the majority of the world's population.

Except in Islam. Those cats are ok.



Anyway. Have fun, boys and girls (but let's refrain from having sex with each other for at least a little while, ok?). Errands call.

originally posted by: NthOther
YES.

That's just your own opinion though. Clinical definitions may not though based on how it effects the persons behavior.

A mental illness is typically something that causes distress in someone's life and causes them to act in ways that cause problems in normal living.

Which this might actually apply if it was impossible for these guys to experience sexual pleasure without some form of pain and humiliation.

But if it doesn't compel them to change their behavior then it would probably just be considered a fetish.

In either case it's just a label. I don't know what difference it makes here for the most part.

a reply to: NthOther

In my opinion...Religion is a HUGE problem.

originally posted by: WeAreAWAKE

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: WeAreAWAKE

Keep pushing your idea that there's no difference between child molestation and consensual sex between adults.

Every post clarifies your position; and may I say personally, it's disturbing.

This is not a "right-left" phenomenon.

And it has nothing to do with sexual orientation or gender identity.

Sorry, that absurdity will not be allowed to stand.

Actually...it will stand. You can say it isn't politics but the fact is (for a recent example) the left have no problem with a man using the women's room, etc. The left have no problem forcing straight people to give up liberties to allow gay people to do as they please. The right doesn't want nor stand for that. So if you think it has nothing to do with politics...fine. But everyone for these things are on the left and everyone against is on the right. Or so most people say.

Ah ... so this furor is really about Trans* issues and not pedophilia?

Thanks for your honesty. Particularly considering that most notable child predators are Republican.

The Left wants EVERYONE to have their rights; wingnuts only want those they consider "the majority" to have theirs.

... and that just breaks the Right's little authoritarian heart.

/shrug

originally posted by: mOjOm

originally posted by: NthOther
YES.

That's just your own opinion though. Clinical definitions may not though based on how it effects the persons behavior.

A mental illness is typically something that causes distress in someone's life and causes them to act in ways that cause problems in normal living.

Which this might actually apply if it was impossible for these guys to experience sexual pleasure without some form of pain and humiliation.

But if it doesn't compel them to change their behavior then it would probably just be considered a fetish.

In either case it's just a label. I don't know what difference it makes here for the most part.

Definition: Mental illness refers to a wide range of mental health conditions — disorders that affect your mood, thinking and behavior. Examples of mental illness include depression, anxiety disorders, schizophrenia, eating disorders and addictive behaviors.

I think cutting yourself for sexual pleasure falls under that category. But maybe you don't. Maybe you don't believe that whacking off to a child is a mental disorder either...nor having sex with another of the same sex. Maybe you even think sex with livestock is just a fetish. Fine. But I disagree and I'd be happy to tell my daughters I consider these things sick. Can you tell your children how you feel?

originally posted by: NthOther

What's the difference?

Well, I would explain it to you but like your Mother in Law you won't understand it anyway.

I do have some shiny new coins you can play with though!!

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: WeAreAWAKE

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: WeAreAWAKE

Keep pushing your idea that there's no difference between child molestation and consensual sex between adults.

Every post clarifies your position; and may I say personally, it's disturbing.

This is not a "right-left" phenomenon.

And it has nothing to do with sexual orientation or gender identity.

Sorry, that absurdity will not be allowed to stand.

Actually...it will stand. You can say it isn't politics but the fact is (for a recent example) the left have no problem with a man using the women's room, etc. The left have no problem forcing straight people to give up liberties to allow gay people to do as they please. The right doesn't want nor stand for that. So if you think it has nothing to do with politics...fine. But everyone for these things are on the left and everyone against is on the right. Or so most people say.

Ah ... so this furor is really about Trans* issues and not pedophilia?

Thanks for your honesty. Particularly considering that most notable child predators are Republican.

The Left wants EVERYONE to have their rights; wingnuts only want those they consider "the majority" to have theirs.

... and that just breaks the Right's little authoritarian heart.

/shrug

Actually...no. This thread is about pedophilia. But since you asked...no...I think it is wrong to tell 99.7 percent of the people that they have to relinquish their privacy, which they have had for decades, in order to appease .3 percent of the population. That isn't fair or right. I may agree to a third bathroom, but I do not accept that people wearing a very good disguise are actually now the opposite sex. Any scientist or doctor will tell you that the person remains the sex they were born regardless of surgery.

My anger about that is at the political parties forcing the majority to give up rights they have had forever, to suck up to a vast minority of the population.

a reply to: mOjOm

Very powerful people like rich powerful business men

Yep this is the Illuminati left or right. Hegelian dialectic outplayed itself in the Presidential election pitting left Hegelian John Kerry of the Democrats against the right Hegelian George Bush, both members of the elite Yale secret society Skull and Bones. Antony Sutton wrote about this secret Order and I frequently post stuff from Sutton.

originally posted by: WeAreAWAKE

In either case it's just a label. I don't know what difference it makes here for the most part.
Definition: Mental illness refers to a wide range of mental health conditions — disorders that affect your mood, thinking and behavior. Examples of mental illness include depression, anxiety disorders, schizophrenia, eating disorders and addictive behaviors.

I think cutting yourself for sexual pleasure falls under that category. But maybe you don't. Maybe you don't believe that whacking off to a child is a mental disorder either...nor having sex with another of the same sex. Maybe you even think sex with livestock is just a fetish. Fine. But I disagree and I'd be happy to tell my daughters I consider these things sick. Can you tell your children how you feel?

When was I ever talking about anything you just said??? I was talking about Grown men having a domination fetish in my example which is nothing like what you just said.

Don't start pushing your weird fantasies over to me. I never mentioned children or animals or anything like that you sicko.

Get some help.

originally posted by: mOjOm

originally posted by: NthOther

What's the difference?

Well, I would explain it to you but like your Mother in Law you won't understand it anyway.

I do have some shiny new coins you can play with though!!

Well if you want to simply insult each other...we can play that game. Why don't you take whatever that is in your mouth out and shove it somewhere else.

There...hows that?

originally posted by: mOjOm

originally posted by: WeAreAWAKE

In either case it's just a label. I don't know what difference it makes here for the most part.
Definition: Mental illness refers to a wide range of mental health conditions — disorders that affect your mood, thinking and behavior. Examples of mental illness include depression, anxiety disorders, schizophrenia, eating disorders and addictive behaviors.

I think cutting yourself for sexual pleasure falls under that category. But maybe you don't. Maybe you don't believe that whacking off to a child is a mental disorder either...nor having sex with another of the same sex. Maybe you even think sex with livestock is just a fetish. Fine. But I disagree and I'd be happy to tell my daughters I consider these things sick. Can you tell your children how you feel?

When was I ever talking about anything you just said??? I was talking about Grown men having a domination fetish in my example which is nothing like what you just said.

Don't start pushing your weird fantasies over to me. I never mentioned children or animals or anything like that you sicko.

Get some help.

Try a mirror.

a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus

I guess it's pretty common with powerful people. It's not always about sex either. They get off on losing their control and having someone abuse them.

It's as if being in a position of power all the time and being dominate over so many other people all the time they seek out some kind of release for that. So they get a dominatrix in a controlled environment to do some pretty crazy stuff to them and that in turn satisfies something sexual but also some other desire they have in them.

Some professional Dominatrix's have clients that literally just get abused and love it and pay very well for it too but there is no sexual anything between her and the client.

Weird stuff. Call it a fetish or mental disorder, I don't care either way. I'll stick with non abusive sex personally.

originally posted by: WeAreAWAKE

Try a mirror.

Hey, you said all that stuff not me.

Maybe you should go back and read who said what. Those were your thoughts not mine.

originally posted by: WeAreAWAKE
You see! Annie thinks that cutting yourself is sane...just fine. Others consider pedophile of the mind just fine...nothing to worry about here.

So back to my comment. Many on the left think everything is just fine. Be who you are...NO MATTER WHAT.

I post an article about Mortification of the flesh in response to your post: So there is a guy sitting on the side of the road cutting himself

And now I think cutting yourself is sane?

"Can your arm get any longer?"

a reply to: Annee

In short...I called a person mutilating themselves a mental illness. You posted a quote implying it is common place in some places. So yes...you implied it wasn't a mental illness.

originally posted by: WeAreAWAKE

Well if you want to simply insult each other...we can play that game.

That's all you've been doing for at least the last 4 pages as far as I can tell anyway. It's a little late for you to act like it's something new isn't it???

dp

originally posted by: mOjOm

originally posted by: WeAreAWAKE

Try a mirror.

Hey, you said all that stuff not me.

Maybe you should go back and read who said what. Those were your thoughts not mine.

I just did. A poster stated that pedophilia is a mental disorder. You responded with "But if it doesn't compel them to change their behavior then it would probably just be considered a fetish." calling it a fetish.

So yeah...I re-read it.

Are you trying to say that because these woman worked in juvenile faccilities that this does not show you how woman are just as likely to be guilty of these sort of things. That somehow working in a juvenile faccilities changes this is someway exempting woman from this?

Not at all. However, it is important to note that this study applies to abuse in a highly specialized clinical setting, which is not the norm, and cannot be extrapolated to suggest percentages present in the population at large.

One thing is crystal clear. It completely denies your claim that the most woman usualy do is accidentally letting pornographip material lay around where children could find it. Reality certaintly is a far cry from that as is shown in this report.

I never claimed "that the most woman [sic] usualy [sic] do is accidentally letting pornographip [sic] material lay around where children could find it."

What I said was that I learned in my child psychology course that the only type of child-sexual-abuse more likely to be committed by a woman than by a man was leaving pornographic materials around where children could find them. That does not mean that's the only crime women commit. It just means that men commit all the other types of child sex abuse MORE OFTEN, according to the statistics I was shown in college, which has certainly not been undermined by anything you've posted thus far.

everyone
Yep but it does include them. Combined with the previous report i linked you it gives you a lot more of a realistic look into things.

That report says ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about how often women are the perpetrators of child sexual abuse. If you think it's relevant, you do not understand the data.

Also , you have your doubts just because a judge is more likely to give custody to woman? That also is a byproduct of the stigma that you perpetuate by automaticly assigning blame to men.

No. What I was attempting to imply was that women have more opportunity to commit all manner of egregious violations against children because they are more often to be the ones taking care of them. However, based on the stats I've seen, men are STILL more likely to commit child sex abuse crimes.

They find it surprising because the general concencus is that female do not commit these sort of crimes.

No. They call it surprising because of the stats I mentioned earlier, that show that the vast majority of child sexual crimes are reported against men.

If you were truly interested in discussing this, I would think you would have addressed the data I showed you.

Listen, I'm a reasonable guy. I have no desire whatsoever to continue to carry around a gross misconception about males and child abuse. So if you have additional stats to post, and would care to comment on why the vast majority of the research shows that men commit these crimes more often than women, please do so.

Otherwise, this is a waste of my time and yours.

Now you are finnaly pressented with evidence to the contrary and now all of a sudden it is not valid because it is based on the witness acounts of men who had been abused as a child by woman.

I never said any such thing. I'm struggling to figure out where you got this and can only assume it was from my statement about girls being abused more often then boys -- and the reason I mentioned that was because the memories of boys would paint only 25% of the picture if 75% of the abuse memories are from girls.

originally posted by: mOjOm
dp

Until your smart ass comment, I didn't insult anyone. Facts, opinions and experiences. Feel free to quote any insult I extended. And by the way...and insult is not defined as something some else doesn't like hearing. It is a personal attack.