Is it time for Third-Party Politics to be brought into play?

originally posted by: alldaylong
a reply to: TinFoilSuit

The U.S. already has a " Third Party " and also many more after that.

Here is the list.

en.wikipedia.org...

Well, aside from the fact that Wikipedia is a questionable resource on the best of days, yes, there are many independent parties. My original post was in regards to the fact that the Establishment Elite and the American Aristocracy have the entire process sewn up to the point where no third party can get into an actual debate, much less into a general election.

Is this perhaps the time when such an option might be viable and not just delusional?

It took the Republican Reform Party only two election cycles to win the national presidency. What, if anything is so different now? Why has it been changed to what it is and what can be done to rectify the situation?



a reply to: usernameconspiracy

There once was a guy named Ralph Nader ... though I can never forgive him for the Corvair or the Skilsaw ...

a reply to: jjkenobi

The first time I voted for Ralph Nadar, I had to write in his name, the second time, he was on the ballot. I do NOT believe in voting for the lesser of two evils, in my opinion doing so comes a LOT closer to throwing my vote away than voting for someone I believe in, even if I am the only one voting for that person.

a reply to: TinFoilSuit

Third party politics always come up in Presidential years. You'll know it's serious when it comes up in off years and there's a third party movement for Congress instead (such as the Tea Party). You can't win the Presidency unless you have a group in Congress to caucus with and a platform of proposed legislation, plus a group to try and enact it.

originally posted by: John_Rodger_Cornman
All a third party needs is repetitive national media coverage.

The libertarian party does need to be heard. The time is right, but a little late .

originally posted by: alldaylong
Why do you need public funding ?

The UKIP Party was born here in the U.K. 25 years ago by one man, Alan Sked. He had no funding and his message was spread by " word of mouth " At the 2015 General Election UKIP gained 13% of the popular vote.

Let me also put this to you. The 1776 American Revolution. What public funding did the revolt leaders obtain ? Their revolution and their force for change was all done by " word of mouth"

In a nutshell, if you have the right message then people will listen. You start with the foot soldiers, the pamphlets and the door knocking to get your message across.

The American Revolution was bankrolled by France and Germany, it was also primarily fought by the French Navy. All we Americans really did was win a small handful of battles, and in general act as a guerrilla force that couldn't be put down by the small amount of British troops committed to the colonies.

a reply to: Aazadan

Wasn't the French royals the arch-nemesis of the British royals? An enemy of my enemy is my friend.

originally posted by: John_Rodger_Cornman
a reply to: Aazadan

Wasn't the French royals the arch-nemesis of the British royals? An enemy of my enemy is my friend.

That's precisely why they helped, it doesn't change the fact that the Revolution was really more of a proxy war for France than something entirely domestic.

Disclaimer: I am a registered Libertarian.
Additional disclaimer: Though I have voted for various Libertarian candidates for various offices I did so with the full recognition that my vote would be "wasted."


The thing is, win or lose, it is a voice. A little, itty bitty teensy weensy voice. Will a "third party" ever win a majority? I doubt it, not in the next 10 election cycles anyway (yeah, right). Might a "third party" candidate be elected? Well, it's happened in scattered county and state elections.

Is it pointless? Yes, if you think voting is pointless. In which case, don't bother. Leave the voting to someone who cares about it and bothers to really consider what they are doing.

a reply to: alldaylong

Right. A third party will have to start from the bottom, get 5%, then that will level the playing field.

*looks around*

What exactly are we debating here?