Transgenderism and why America is slowly falling apart

originally posted by: Gryphon66
Why is it that in so, so many of these threads, the most vociferous objectors seem to be just a itty-bit too fascinated by whatever "perversion" they're pointing to ... I mean, who is it that brings out child molestation, sexual predation, and so forth into EVERY ONE OF THESE CONVERSATIONS about individual rights and equal protection before the laws?

One wonders ... who the real "perverts" actually are, in these scenarios ...

May people remember who said this. And ask why it was said.

originally posted by: QuinnP

originally posted by: Hazardous1408
a reply to: QuinnP

Well a victim knows when to recognise another victim Quinn...

You should try to deal with it more healthily than accusing everyone of being perverts.


Remember this is about transgenders and their rights, not paedophilia.

There is no connection between the two.

I never once talked about transgenders. Look back. you will never see a single mention about them in all of my posts. They aren't even in my mind.

No, you just came into a thread about transgenderism and began calling everyone sick perverts.

originally posted by: eNumbra

originally posted by: QuinnP

originally posted by: Hazardous1408
a reply to: QuinnP

Well a victim knows when to recognise another victim Quinn...

You should try to deal with it more healthily than accusing everyone of being perverts.


Remember this is about transgenders and their rights, not paedophilia.

There is no connection between the two.

I never once talked about transgenders. Look back. you will never see a single mention about them in all of my posts. They aren't even in my mind.

No, you just came into a thread about transgenderism and began calling everyone sick perverts.

If you don't know what the word means look it up.

I have seen enough of you in this thread to be justified in what I said. There is no doubt about it.

originally posted by: QuinnP

originally posted by: eNumbra

originally posted by: QuinnP

originally posted by: Hazardous1408
a reply to: QuinnP

Well a victim knows when to recognise another victim Quinn...

You should try to deal with it more healthily than accusing everyone of being perverts.


Remember this is about transgenders and their rights, not paedophilia.

There is no connection between the two.

I never once talked about transgenders. Look back. you will never see a single mention about them in all of my posts. They aren't even in my mind.

No, you just came into a thread about transgenderism and began calling everyone sick perverts.

If you don't know what the word means look it up.

I have seen enough of you in this thread to be justified in what I said. There is no doubt about it.

I know what you think it means, and regardless of how justified in my opinions of you I won't share them, I always get nicked for T&Cs when I do. ATS prefers me sardonic and irreverent.

Enjoy your ban, whenever a mod gets around to it.

a reply to: Gryphon66

It's easy to see where all of the issues in this world come from if you step away from it far enough for long enough.

The hypocrisy and ignorance are everywhere, infused into it like it's normal or something.

It's a trap while you're in it, and a trap when you're out of it.

Can't be fixed.

Thankfully we don't live forever, and I don't see who would want to except the ignorant or self absorbed narcissistis of us.

A lot of us.....

a reply to: QuinnP

No, it's about discussing things, touchy subjects for some, without being insulting about it.

If you don't like the discussion, or the people participating in it according to their stated views on the subject, you are free to not participate in the discussion.

but you keep coming back for more...

originally posted by: QuinnP

originally posted by: Hazardous1408
a reply to: QuinnP

Well a victim knows when to recognise another victim Quinn...

You should try to deal with it more healthily than accusing everyone of being perverts.


Remember this is about transgenders and their rights, not paedophilia.

There is no connection between the two.

I never once talked about transgenders. Look back. you will never see a single mention about them in all of my posts. They aren't even in my mind.

And yet here you are in a thread about rights and freedoms for transgender people, screaming nonsense about bestiality and child abuse, calling everyone criminals and perverts, while quoting passages from your holy book...

originally posted by: Rocker2013

originally posted by: QuinnP

originally posted by: Hazardous1408
a reply to: QuinnP

Well a victim knows when to recognise another victim Quinn...

You should try to deal with it more healthily than accusing everyone of being perverts.


Remember this is about transgenders and their rights, not paedophilia.

There is no connection between the two.

I never once talked about transgenders. Look back. you will never see a single mention about them in all of my posts. They aren't even in my mind.

And yet here you are in a thread about rights and freedoms for transgender people, screaming nonsense about bestiality and child abuse, calling everyone criminals and perverts, while quoting passages from your holy book...

You think I don't know what I said. Listen. First they make you think this is normal. Then they make you think the rest is. You can't think for yourself, you are already thinking for them.

originally posted by: MyHappyDogShiner
a reply to: intrptr

Geez, leave him alone.

I did the same stuff but was too young and stupid to realize the wrongness of it for years....

We all learn the truth of things and the world much too late, some of us survive the lesson, many don't.

The system exploits the naive.

Did you just say leave naiveté alone?

Deny ignorance…

originally posted by: QuinnP

originally posted by: Rocker2013

originally posted by: QuinnP

originally posted by: Hazardous1408
a reply to: QuinnP

Well a victim knows when to recognise another victim Quinn...

You should try to deal with it more healthily than accusing everyone of being perverts.


Remember this is about transgenders and their rights, not paedophilia.

There is no connection between the two.

I never once talked about transgenders. Look back. you will never see a single mention about them in all of my posts. They aren't even in my mind.

And yet here you are in a thread about rights and freedoms for transgender people, screaming nonsense about bestiality and child abuse, calling everyone criminals and perverts, while quoting passages from your holy book...

You think I don't know what I said. Listen. First they make you think this is normal. Then they make you think the rest is. You can't think for yourself, you are already thinking for them.

Ah the classic slippery-slope argument; nostalgic, buttery, and just a hint of nuts on the finish.

Now look here folks, this man is treading on unstable waters, no matter which way he steps, but I guess I agree.
The argument has always stood - I was born this way.
Now although I will always defend your right to be a free human ie. I know there's nothing I can do, it is your right to be transgender, homosexual etc. It is none of my business, I will accept you as you are, and I will agree that it is your right.

But I can't help feel that epigenetics, experience, and experience's way of shaping perspective trumps nature in the vast majority of cases. Meaning, I do not believe the argument - I was born this way - stands to be true in the vast majority of cases. The human mind is to malleable at young ages, we do not always remember what it was that made us deviate from the path nature had set out for us, but the effects environment can have, and the amount of variables to consider are so great that it's not possible for so many kids to be born this way.

But remember, I concede to the fact that in a very small amount of cases it is possibly genetic.

Now that's my perspective. The OP just seems to be focusing on the fact that a lot of trolls are exploiting the current pc culture, and taking it out on the whole LGBT community.

You sound like a salt of the earth fellow, Moonshinne, don't let these things bother you to much until they start to impact your life directly and critically - not your monkey's, not your circus.

originally posted by: MyHappyDogShiner
a reply to: Gryphon66

It's easy to see where all of the issues in this world come from if you step away from it far enough for long enough.

The hypocrisy and ignorance are everywhere, infused into it like it's normal or something.

It's a trap while you're in it, and a trap when you're out of it.

Can't be fixed.

Thankfully we don't live forever, and I don't see who would want to except the ignorant or self absorbed narcissistis of us.

A lot of us.....

That reads a lot like a Zen koan.

Granted hypocrisy and ignorance are everywhere. As are constancy and knowledge ...

It's a mixed bag, this "vicked vorld" of ours, no?

Thread closed for now for some cooling off, and to review some posts in here.