How does the rest of the world deal with race relations?

a reply to: Pyrrho

Except America. You know, the whole melting pot? I'm living proof that it exists and works just fine.

Everyone is different, no two people are not on fire. Awwww.

a reply to: rukia

I agree. Sometimes I think how boring everything would be if we were all alike. I like the diversity.

The coffee mug I keep at my office, has little white cats all over, and only one black cat. It's the black cat that makes it an interesting and neat little cup. Without it, it would be just another silly coffee mug.

Just sayin'.

a reply to: rukia

The reason it worked is because people came together to embrace a new culture, the American culture where freedom, liberty and justice for all was meant to be put above all else.

In the uk its actually quite interesting in the 80s black soccer players used to get a lot of abuse, monkey chants and bananas thrown at them, but in the 90s there was a campaign called, kick racism out of football which has been extremely positive and successful that racism at English football grounds has become almost unheard of. It still exists in European grounds, in places like Spain and the more backward Eastern European grounds, but most teams have numerous black players, it's definitely changed. With teams leaving the field if they hear racist chanting. So things have definitely improved for the better. Football culture is actually a great driver of social change for the better in many ways

originally posted by: onequestion
So I've been sitting here wondering about how the rest of the world deals with racism in their country.

So for instance... Is it just westernized white countries who are constantly dealing with racism, is it just us being called racist all the time or is this going on in let's say... Japan?

Do people illegally immigrants to Japan and when they get deport or jailed by the Japanese government are the Japanese people considered racist? Would the Japanese people even care if they got called racist?

That's just one of many examples. I really am curious to get some insight into other countries and cultures.

I'm ignorant of other countries because I haven't traveled yet outside of the US and I mainly only get news from the Western perspective.

Thanks.

Yes it goes on in Japan too. They're just not violent about it, they ignore you. They have signs at the entrances to some businesses that say "No Gaijin" which means "no foreigner". I lived there for 5 yrs, saw it more times than i can remember.

originally posted by: gator2001
I have spent the past five years in Asia (Philippines and China) and I have never heard any discussions like in the U.S. about racism, appropriation, priviledge, etc. I only hear that from the U.S.

The only time I have heard any complaints about a racist issue was raised by Americans regarding a Thai ad. They either don't know about those terms or don't care. There aren't exactly a large number of foreigners here where I have been. I occasionally see a foreigner here in the Phil's, but there are more in certain cities. I saw foreigners extremely rarely in China.

I do know that the Chinese prefer white foreigners to black ones. I knew two black fellas in China, but they were from Ivory Coast. We talked some and they never mentioned anything bad happening to them. I think in China it is more about just being a foreigner...a laowai. A foreigner will get stared at constantly. A few times when I sat down on a subway, the person next to me got up and moved. I didn't ask why, but they probably didn't want to sit next to a foreigner.

The staring could be taken different ways. I have gotten some stares that appeared to be hateful, like why was I there, but mostly the stares are curiosity and even admiration.

Here in the Phils, it is about being a foreigner, not a race that I have seen. My wife would always point out foreigners to me when I first came here. She never said "hey...look, a black guy!" She referred to them as foreigners and "hey, your friend!" Also, she would ask me where they were from. Sometimes I could have a good idea if I heard them speak, but I would usually say that it is hard to tell where a white person is from just by looks alone. I guess I was racist...

Now...discrimination is legal here and they are open about it. If a business wants a pretty girl clerk for their store, they will put up a sign "now hiring attractive female 22-25 years old only." I saw the same thing in China. Some would say white preferred.

What someone said previously about skin color is true. They want to look lighter toned. There are many many products that lighten the skin. Deodorant, lotions, soap, etc, line the store shelves and are in many commercials. I was surprised when I saw all of those products. I told them that in the U.S., we bought products to darken our skin and tanned. I learned that people want what they don't have. From what I gather, it is a perception of having more money and feeling more attractive. I told my wife to stop using them because I liked the natural Asian skin tone. Seeing some women with artificially white skin looked fake to me.

I honestly think that discussions about racism, appropriation, priviledge, etc is unique to the U.S. and Europe. That is my opinion. I don't see it existing in the two Asian countries I have lived in.

For the most part, I have been very welcomed in both countries because I was a foreigner. I have never felt not welcomed. I have never had a feeling about being a different race. I was just a foreigner.

In the Philippines when they say "American", they're referring to white. A black (sometimes called Nug Nug) or latino American would be a "foreigner". Filipina women do try to make themselves look lighter skinned. They see it as a higher economic status. Brown skinned Filipina are looked to as being "provincial", country girls working the fields and rice paddy's.

While living in FL it took me about 2 yrs to get my Filipina wife not to cover herself from head to toe and use an umbrella while at the beach. She said she didn't want to like like a "Negra". I finally convinced her otherwise.

Also FIlipino's don't care for the Negrito's who are the actual native aboriginal Filipino's. Kinda like the Aussies and the Aborigines.

originally posted by: Subaeruginosa

a reply to: onequestion

I read an article about a year or so ago about how Japanese people are notoriously discriminatory to anyone living in there country who doesn't look Japanese, even if they were born there... if you don't look like them, then you'll always be considered an outsider, apparently.

I'd imagine that most non-western countries would probably have the same mentality, to differing degree's.

That's what makes western countries superior, imo, we embrace multiculturalism and socially condemn all forms of racism... its not some big socialist agenda to frown on racist opinions, as some would have you believe. Its just an attempt by good people to help society rise above a primitive mentality that the human race is prone too.

Japanese are very homogeneous. You are correct, no matter how many generations say a Korean family has been there, born and raised or not, they are still Korean to Japanese people and government. That goes for any ethnic group there, Chinese, FIlipino, whatever. Many businesses have "No Gaijin" (no foreigner) signs at the entrance.

a reply to: bg_socalif
That is because the Europeans set out to conquer and rule the planet. Everywhere they went they spread their seeds of superiority ànd Godhood.

From the beginning of time people people have chased the idea of someone/something greater. They hunger for a God that produces and controls everything. This God had to look very different from themselves to be considered the true God.

For a long time the unusual men that walked onto their shores and into their villages planted the seeds that they were like Gods. They were better and smarter than those that they came to conquer, and the people believed. The residual of those times remains and is obvious in non-white people hating their aboriginal selves, embracing and coveting the image of the white man.

They now despise any darkness in their skin. They see it as a stain that makes them less than.

well in russia there are two ways to deal with it. you mind your own business, which is the most common. and the other method is a violent beating, not as common but often heavily covered.

a reply to: LesMisanthrope

And by far..........

originally posted by: GuidedKill
a reply to: onequestion

They kill or enslave the minority.......


BOOM all of a sudden the good ole USA isn't that bad.........

Examples?

Where do they do that?

originally posted by: odzeandennz
no worries, blacks are hated everywhere. were not alone

Not true.

Demonized in post-colonial countries but out side of those countries it is no where near as bad.

originally posted by: Pyrrho
Multiculturalism doesn't work anywhere.

What are the alternatives?

originally posted by: bg_socalif

originally posted by: gator2001
I have spent the past five years in Asia (Philippines and China) and I have never heard any discussions like in the U.S. about racism, appropriation, priviledge, etc. I only hear that from the U.S.

The only time I have heard any complaints about a racist issue was raised by Americans regarding a Thai ad. They either don't know about those terms or don't care. There aren't exactly a large number of foreigners here where I have been. I occasionally see a foreigner here in the Phil's, but there are more in certain cities. I saw foreigners extremely rarely in China.

I do know that the Chinese prefer white foreigners to black ones. I knew two black fellas in China, but they were from Ivory Coast. We talked some and they never mentioned anything bad happening to them. I think in China it is more about just being a foreigner...a laowai. A foreigner will get stared at constantly. A few times when I sat down on a subway, the person next to me got up and moved. I didn't ask why, but they probably didn't want to sit next to a foreigner.

The staring could be taken different ways. I have gotten some stares that appeared to be hateful, like why was I there, but mostly the stares are curiosity and even admiration.

Here in the Phils, it is about being a foreigner, not a race that I have seen. My wife would always point out foreigners to me when I first came here. She never said "hey...look, a black guy!" She referred to them as foreigners and "hey, your friend!" Also, she would ask me where they were from. Sometimes I could have a good idea if I heard them speak, but I would usually say that it is hard to tell where a white person is from just by looks alone. I guess I was racist...

Now...discrimination is legal here and they are open about it. If a business wants a pretty girl clerk for their store, they will put up a sign "now hiring attractive female 22-25 years old only." I saw the same thing in China. Some would say white preferred.

What someone said previously about skin color is true. They want to look lighter toned. There are many many products that lighten the skin. Deodorant, lotions, soap, etc, line the store shelves and are in many commercials. I was surprised when I saw all of those products. I told them that in the U.S., we bought products to darken our skin and tanned. I learned that people want what they don't have. From what I gather, it is a perception of having more money and feeling more attractive. I told my wife to stop using them because I liked the natural Asian skin tone. Seeing some women with artificially white skin looked fake to me.

I honestly think that discussions about racism, appropriation, priviledge, etc is unique to the U.S. and Europe. That is my opinion. I don't see it existing in the two Asian countries I have lived in.

For the most part, I have been very welcomed in both countries because I was a foreigner. I have never felt not welcomed. I have never had a feeling about being a different race. I was just a foreigner.

In the Philippines when they say "American", they're referring to white. A black (sometimes called Nug Nug) or latino American would be a "foreigner". Filipina women do try to make themselves look lighter skinned. They see it as a higher economic status. Brown skinned Filipina are looked to as being "provincial", country girls working the fields and rice paddy's.

While living in FL it took me about 2 yrs to get my Filipina wife not to cover herself from head to toe and use an umbrella while at the beach. She said she didn't want to like like a "Negra". I finally convinced her otherwise.

Also FIlipino's don't care for the Negrito's who are the actual native aboriginal Filipino's. Kinda like the Aussies and the Aborigines.

There are a lot of black americans that are married to filipinas.

Filipinos are a very friendly people overall.

They are no where near as race obsessed as us Americans.

a reply to: onequestion

Some countries like the Philippines and Jamaica, still suffers from the brutal legacies of Colonialism. In fact, did you know that some Third World Nations including the ones I mentioned had a ruling white minority that exploited the people of the countries their ruling? Many of the white ruling elite are descendants of Colonial administrators.

originally posted by: starwarsisreal
a reply to: onequestion

Some countries like the Philippines and Jamaica, still suffers from the brutal legacies of Colonialism. In fact, did you know that some Third World Nations including the ones I mentioned had a ruling white minority that exploited the people of the countries their ruling? Many of the white ruling elite are descendants of Colonial administrators.

Colonialism was pure evil. The whole self-hate Stockholm syndrome brainwash they did was insidious.

originally posted by: John_Rodger_Cornman

originally posted by: bg_socalif

originally posted by: gator2001
I have spent the past five years in Asia (Philippines and China) and I have never heard any discussions like in the U.S. about racism, appropriation, priviledge, etc. I only hear that from the U.S.

The only time I have heard any complaints about a racist issue was raised by Americans regarding a Thai ad. They either don't know about those terms or don't care. There aren't exactly a large number of foreigners here where I have been. I occasionally see a foreigner here in the Phil's, but there are more in certain cities. I saw foreigners extremely rarely in China.

I do know that the Chinese prefer white foreigners to black ones. I knew two black fellas in China, but they were from Ivory Coast. We talked some and they never mentioned anything bad happening to them. I think in China it is more about just being a foreigner...a laowai. A foreigner will get stared at constantly. A few times when I sat down on a subway, the person next to me got up and moved. I didn't ask why, but they probably didn't want to sit next to a foreigner.

The staring could be taken different ways. I have gotten some stares that appeared to be hateful, like why was I there, but mostly the stares are curiosity and even admiration.

Here in the Phils, it is about being a foreigner, not a race that I have seen. My wife would always point out foreigners to me when I first came here. She never said "hey...look, a black guy!" She referred to them as foreigners and "hey, your friend!" Also, she would ask me where they were from. Sometimes I could have a good idea if I heard them speak, but I would usually say that it is hard to tell where a white person is from just by looks alone. I guess I was racist...

Now...discrimination is legal here and they are open about it. If a business wants a pretty girl clerk for their store, they will put up a sign "now hiring attractive female 22-25 years old only." I saw the same thing in China. Some would say white preferred.

What someone said previously about skin color is true. They want to look lighter toned. There are many many products that lighten the skin. Deodorant, lotions, soap, etc, line the store shelves and are in many commercials. I was surprised when I saw all of those products. I told them that in the U.S., we bought products to darken our skin and tanned. I learned that people want what they don't have. From what I gather, it is a perception of having more money and feeling more attractive. I told my wife to stop using them because I liked the natural Asian skin tone. Seeing some women with artificially white skin looked fake to me.

I honestly think that discussions about racism, appropriation, priviledge, etc is unique to the U.S. and Europe. That is my opinion. I don't see it existing in the two Asian countries I have lived in.

For the most part, I have been very welcomed in both countries because I was a foreigner. I have never felt not welcomed. I have never had a feeling about being a different race. I was just a foreigner.

In the Philippines when they say "American", they're referring to white. A black (sometimes called Nug Nug) or latino American would be a "foreigner". Filipina women do try to make themselves look lighter skinned. They see it as a higher economic status. Brown skinned Filipina are looked to as being "provincial", country girls working the fields and rice paddy's.

While living in FL it took me about 2 yrs to get my Filipina wife not to cover herself from head to toe and use an umbrella while at the beach. She said she didn't want to like like a "Negra". I finally convinced her otherwise.

Also FIlipino's don't care for the Negrito's who are the actual native aboriginal Filipino's. Kinda like the Aussies and the Aborigines.

There are a lot of black americans that are married to filipinas.

Filipinos are a very friendly people overall.

They are no where near as race obsessed as us Americans.

Yes, i agree. I've been married to one for 30 yrs now.