The Mandela Effect Can No Longer Be Denied: Berenstein Was The Tip of The Iceberg

originally posted by: queenofswords
The one I am absolutely positively 100% sure of is that it was "Mirror Mirror on the wall, who's the fairest of them all?" 100% sure. No doubt. Not one little smidgen. I know it for a fact.

So when did you last watch that movie?

originally posted by: TerryDon79

originally posted by: queenofswords

originally posted by: itanosam
a reply to: hellobruce

Stop assuming things about me. Things did change. I am so tired of people trying to disprove Mandela Effect like a chore.

Also, South America is way further east than it was in the past.

It was "Mirror Mirror on the Wall, who's the fairest of them all?" not "Magic Mirror on the Wall, who is the fairest one of all?"

It was Chic-Fil-A not Chick-fil-A.

It was Fruit Loops not Froot Loops.

It was Febreeze not Febreze.

The one I am absolutely positively 100% sure of is that it was "Mirror Mirror on the wall, who's the fairest of them all?" 100% sure. No doubt. Not one little smidgen. I know it for a fact.

Would that be according to your memory, by any chance?

That's like asking me if telling you my name is according to my memory.

originally posted by: queenofswords

originally posted by: TerryDon79

originally posted by: queenofswords

originally posted by: itanosam
a reply to: hellobruce

Stop assuming things about me. Things did change. I am so tired of people trying to disprove Mandela Effect like a chore.

Also, South America is way further east than it was in the past.

It was "Mirror Mirror on the Wall, who's the fairest of them all?" not "Magic Mirror on the Wall, who is the fairest one of all?"

It was Chic-Fil-A not Chick-fil-A.

It was Fruit Loops not Froot Loops.

It was Febreeze not Febreze.

The one I am absolutely positively 100% sure of is that it was "Mirror Mirror on the wall, who's the fairest of them all?" 100% sure. No doubt. Not one little smidgen. I know it for a fact.

Would that be according to your memory, by any chance?

That's like asking me if telling you my name is according to my memory.

And memories can be faulty. Scientific studies have proven that.

You can also forget your name. Ever hear of Alzheimer's or dementia?

originally posted by: TerryDon79

originally posted by: queenofswords

originally posted by: TerryDon79

originally posted by: queenofswords

originally posted by: itanosam
a reply to: hellobruce

Stop assuming things about me. Things did change. I am so tired of people trying to disprove Mandela Effect like a chore.

Also, South America is way further east than it was in the past.

It was "Mirror Mirror on the Wall, who's the fairest of them all?" not "Magic Mirror on the Wall, who is the fairest one of all?"

It was Chic-Fil-A not Chick-fil-A.

It was Fruit Loops not Froot Loops.

It was Febreeze not Febreze.

The one I am absolutely positively 100% sure of is that it was "Mirror Mirror on the wall, who's the fairest of them all?" 100% sure. No doubt. Not one little smidgen. I know it for a fact.

Would that be according to your memory, by any chance?

That's like asking me if telling you my name is according to my memory.

And memories can be faulty. Scientific studies have proven that.

You can also forget your name. Ever hear of Alzheimer's or dementia?

Is there nothing that you, TerryDon79, know for a certainty? Nothing?

originally posted by: queenofswords

originally posted by: TerryDon79

originally posted by: queenofswords

originally posted by: TerryDon79

originally posted by: queenofswords

originally posted by: itanosam
a reply to: hellobruce

Stop assuming things about me. Things did change. I am so tired of people trying to disprove Mandela Effect like a chore.

Also, South America is way further east than it was in the past.

It was "Mirror Mirror on the Wall, who's the fairest of them all?" not "Magic Mirror on the Wall, who is the fairest one of all?"

It was Chic-Fil-A not Chick-fil-A.

It was Fruit Loops not Froot Loops.

It was Febreeze not Febreze.

The one I am absolutely positively 100% sure of is that it was "Mirror Mirror on the wall, who's the fairest of them all?" 100% sure. No doubt. Not one little smidgen. I know it for a fact.

Would that be according to your memory, by any chance?

That's like asking me if telling you my name is according to my memory.

And memories can be faulty. Scientific studies have proven that.

You can also forget your name. Ever hear of Alzheimer's or dementia?

Is there nothing that you, TerryDon79, know for a certainty? Nothing?

At this moment in time? Plenty.

Could I be wrong about song lyrics, sentences in films/books, where countries are and what they look like on a map, human anatomy and a bunch of other things? Of course I can. So can everyone else.

originally posted by: TerryDon79

originally posted by: queenofswords

originally posted by: TerryDon79

originally posted by: queenofswords

originally posted by: TerryDon79

originally posted by: queenofswords

originally posted by: itanosam
a reply to: hellobruce

Stop assuming things about me. Things did change. I am so tired of people trying to disprove Mandela Effect like a chore.

Also, South America is way further east than it was in the past.

It was "Mirror Mirror on the Wall, who's the fairest of them all?" not "Magic Mirror on the Wall, who is the fairest one of all?"

It was Chic-Fil-A not Chick-fil-A.

It was Fruit Loops not Froot Loops.

It was Febreeze not Febreze.

The one I am absolutely positively 100% sure of is that it was "Mirror Mirror on the wall, who's the fairest of them all?" 100% sure. No doubt. Not one little smidgen. I know it for a fact.

Would that be according to your memory, by any chance?

That's like asking me if telling you my name is according to my memory.

And memories can be faulty. Scientific studies have proven that.

You can also forget your name. Ever hear of Alzheimer's or dementia?

Is there nothing that you, TerryDon79, know for a certainty? Nothing?

At this moment in time? Plenty.

Could I be wrong about song lyrics, sentences in films/books, where countries are and what they look like on a map, human anatomy and a bunch of other things? Of course I can. So can everyone else.

I agree with that. However, as an example to differentiate what I think some of the ME people are saying, take this sentence: "In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth." (Gen. 1:1)

You have read that scripture a thousand times over the span of years. What if suddenly, in the same Biblical translation that you have always used, that scripture suddenly reads, "In the beginning, God created the sky and the world", and people were telling you that it has ALWAYS read that way.

That's all I'm saying. Some of these ME people are just THAT sure of certain things, and although a faulty memory may account for some things regarding individual remembrances, it cannot account for this widespread phenomenon regarding very certain specifics.

a reply to: queenofswords

Actually, it can.

Here's my point.

Before my grandmother died she had both Altzheimers and dementia. Now, I in my late 20s, my mum in here early 50s, my sister in her late 20s and my stepdad in his mid 60s. Obviously she had known my mum, me and my sister, all of our lives. She had known my stepdad for about 5 years. We went to see her one day at the hospital. She called EVERYONE John. John was my stepdads name.

She had known my mum for 50 odd years and thought her name was John. She had known my for close to 30 years and she thought my name was John, same as my sister.

She was adamant that all of our names were John. To the point of getting angry when we told her that our names weren't John (apart from John, of course).

She also thought that her stuffed dog was her real dog. Again, she was adamant about that. Getting angry at us telling her it wasn't.

See my point? Just because you can be 100% sure in yourself that what you remember is correct, doesn't mean you are actually correct.

a reply to: TerryDon79

Do you really not see the difference in someone with Alzheimer's or dementia and this strange widespread phenomenon involving highly specific small changes in perfectly normal individuals? (Small in the grand scheme of things.)

originally posted by: queenofswords
a reply to: TerryDon79

Do you really not see the difference in someone with Alzheimer's or dementia and this strange widespread phenomenon involving highly specific small changes in perfectly normal individuals? (Small in the grand scheme of things.)

How can you be sure that they ARE perfectly normal individuals? It's possible that there could be early onset mental illness. It's possible that it could just be a bunch of hoaxers feeding the masses and the numbers aren't as big as it seems. It could be that people just remembered wrong, but instead of going "Oops!" they're just too arrogant to admit fault. Could be any possible number of things that have been studied and have real evidence behind them.

a reply to: TerryDon79

It could be. But, then, it could be they are having this experience and it really is some kind of "glitch in the matrix" so to speak. Why rant and rave on them because you don't understand it, or because you have some kind of fear of not knowing what is happening.

originally posted by: queenofswords
a reply to: TerryDon79

It could be. But, then, it could be they are having this experience and it really is some kind of "glitch in the matrix" so to speak.

Instead of the known causes, go with the unknown causes? Makes sense

Why rant and rave on them because you don't understand it, or because you have some kind of fear of not knowing what is happening.

Who's "ranting and raving"? I'm quite calm and relaxed actually. As for "fear of not knowing what is happening"? I think I will go with the scientists on this one and the hundreds of years of studies instead of a "theory" that's been around for such a short while that has ZERO evidence for it to even be true.

a reply to: TerryDon79

Okay then...that's your prerogative.

Others may be interested in these experiences and curious about possible alternative explanations. ATS is the perfect place to explore those alternative explanations.

originally posted by: queenofswords
a reply to: TerryDon79

Okay then...that's your prerogative.

Others may be interested in these experiences and curious about possible alternative explanations. ATS is the perfect place to explore those alternative explanations.

I completely agree. ATS is the perfect place to explore both sides of the argument too.

a reply to: queenofswords

Why rant and rave on them because you don't understand it, or because you have some kind of fear of not knowing what is happening.

Just popping in to point out that it is the "Mandela Effect experiencers" who report anxiety and fear, not the ones who admit that their capacity to be mistaken can account for the entire "phenomenon."

originally posted by: queenofswords
Why rant and rave on them because you don't understand it,

Those pushing the ME are the ones ranting and raving...

or because you have some kind of fear of not knowing what is happening.

We know what is happening, some people refusing to admit they have imperfect memory!

I am not a religious person but have you guys noticed Luke 19:27?

"But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me."

Is this really Jesus and what he would have done? Come on. This definitely changed.

originally posted by: itanosam
I am not a religious person but have you guys noticed Luke 19:27?

"But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me."

Is this really Jesus and what he would have done? Come on. This definitely changed.

I've found around eight people now who noticed that one. I noticed it right away when I started studying the Biblical 'changes.' Here's a thread about it:

Luke 19:27 Jesus: 'But those mine enemies...slay them before me.'

I want to start a thread about the following verse. I want a theologian to explain to me the science of how putting new wine into old bottles causes the bottles to break. I've never heard of such a thing. How about you?

In my old world, it was wineskins and it made perfect sense.

Matthew 9:17
Neither do men put new wine into old bottles: else the bottles break, and the wine runneth out, and the bottles perish: but they put new wine into new bottles, and both are preserved.

I found a theologian talking about Mathew 9:17 in the video below (at 15 min. in). He only talks about wineskins, not bottles. Using the word bottles makes NO SENSE.


www.youtube.com...

a reply to: Profusion

How did he end up here in our timeline then ?
See, clips like this actually disprove your argument :/

originally posted by: tweetie
a reply to: SheeplFlavoredAgain

Your experience in church is fascinating to me! It makes a lot of sense according to my book of Life on Planet Earth. I've had similar experiences but not as clear cut as I find yours to be. Mine were more like I was beginning to see the unseen at various times and the access was almost instantly shut off.

The other event where you and your daughter both experienced the brief moment of complete darkness is also fascinating. I wonder if the two of you caught only a tiny part of what may have been a longer event. The "three days of darkness" comes to mind. You wrote it happened a few months ago? Would you say February or March?

I catch a lot of things; brief moments of something major going down outside of mundane reality but not long enough for me to see the whole picture. My senses are on alert and then it passes leaving me with distinct impressions that, of course, I can't verify.

Hi I'm terribly sorry to both you and others on this thread who addressed me directly. I had to volunteer at school to help the teachers and children get everything finished up in time for the end of the school year. And we also traveled as a group for a sporting event.

In answer to your question, the total darkness for a moment phenomenon happened in January. I have the exact date noted in another post on ATS and in a text to a friend but I don't have easy access to either at the moment.

This thread grows far too quickly to keep up with. I just wanted to point something out regarding maps.

As most of us know, the world is a globe, but it's not an exact sphere. It's wider at the equator, so it's actually an ellipse rather than a perfect sphere. I think this is partially why many of the older globes had countries portrayed slightly off. When you look at a globe and then look at a rectangular map you will also notice big differences. This is because the globe naturally is not like that, so the upper portions of rectangular maps are often stretched. This is why Greenland looks so big on many maps. It's not really as big as it looks.