My theory on the pictures of Nibiru

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: hellobruce

Well, there are the misindentification of celestial objects like this:
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And various versions of cosmic ray strikes on the sensors of Solar imaging satellites.

And the ever popular internal reflections (also known as lens flares).

Even clouds. There is an ATS member who posts pictures of clouds.

I was intrigued with your link so here is more.

Allow me to say I'm not into Sitchen (never had any interest in reading his material despite coming across his name constantly during my early years on the Internet)) and his Nibiru story but do you have any thoughts on this article?

originally posted by: DarkStarRising
You know I was thinking about these pictures of Nibiru or the red, blue, green cachina. What ever you want to call them.

They are being taken by new digital cameras.

Well we know that people have been catching all kinds of artifacts in these cameras since there inception. They are now used in all forms of paranormal research as well as in other fields. These cameras seem to see things that our normal human eyes can not see. Some say that they can see through the Veil because the veil has become very thin.

What if this is true? What if what everyone is seeing in our skies in these photos is what we would see if on the other side of the veil? If these cameras are truly picking up artifacts that we can't see then may this is the answer.

Maybe these planets, nibiru, what ever they are are not truly in our skies but on the other side in another alternate reality that the veil is almost to thin to block from vision with these cameras. This would explain why sometimes they can be seen and others they can not.

I know this is probably a crazy idea. But it is truly no crazier than any other theory I have heard in the last few months.

What do you think?

I think your questions are valid and not crazy at all. (I'm not into the widely spread Nibiru myth but that doesn't mean I don't consider there could be celestial bodies which pass through or very close to our solar system on occasion.)

Digital imagery captures effects and objects which traditional cameras don't and that most people's eyes can't discern. It doesn't mean what's in these digital images isn't "real," they are just visible via different parts of the light spectrum which a digital camera can access. Not only that but I've come to the conclusion the nature of our atmosphere has changed due to many causes.

I would have to agree in that on the other side of the veil much more is visible, plus I want to say there are people in the physical who can see beyond the veil and don't need a digital device to do so.

What I am discerning is that a portion of the population has been moving beyond the strictly 3D/5 senses experience and there is somewhat of a clash going on between some of them and some of those who aren't moving beyond that paradigm.

(Just my Harriet Tubman's 20 bucks worth!)

a reply to: intrptr

I understand what you mean in regard to taking paranormal images. Not something I have pursued, but understand what you mean.

I'm not sure how that pertains though to "niribu" images. Do you believe that the hypothesized planet/dwarf star might be extradimensional? I have to say that every image that I've seen that was purported to show two suns or similar descriptive, were very obvious that they were either (a) lens flares or (b) intentional hoaxes, such as taking a photo through glass which also had a reflective interior light.

I don't have a clear opinion of whether Nibiru exists; I am quite confident that it isn't visible at this time.

a reply to: intrptr

I can surmise that he's actually afraid of life after a grid shutdown ... as am I, actually, being a lazy modern chattle.

To his credit, if one takes a hundred oddities reported on this site, it could "support" this alleged incoming brown dwarf and planets .. .or it could support the certainty of climactic catastrophe, too, from biz as usual... or any number of things.

But your point is spot on. I'm just hoping I don't catch his meme .. .I've so far been immune to all zillion previous "end-of-the-world" projections, and know all our world's end, life's but a dream, yadda yadda...

but the actuality of such an event would still be .. .unpleasant.

He mentioned some NASA/SOHO pic that "broke the camel's back" as far as his own belief... I guess I missed that one and guess it was a cosmic ray strike, like all the rest... but man, that end-of-it-all meme is a strong bugger and you and Phage (etc) only have so many vaccinations against idiocy on hand!

a reply to: argentus

Agreed on the photo images of lens flare and hoaxes. Sometimes the story involved actual discoveries of planets beyond Pluto, sometimes a companion star, sometimes a comet. Too many people with telescopes in their backyard, all eager to make the discovery of such a thing as a new planet in the sky, closing distance with earth.

Nibiru origins

As far as cloaking a 'death star' intentionally, why not? Plenty of reports of super sized mother ships in the atmosphere appearing and disappearing suddenly. Ever seen, I Know What I Saw? The reports from Phoenix lights (the early sightings, not the military flares seen later), the pilots in France that saw 'mile long' ships, the Alaska JAL sighting, others, reflect they seem to have this ability on some level, could they be hiding a huge object in the solar system or near it?

Would they cover up any real evidence of this to maintain the status quo? Develop fanatical tales with images of lens flare as the only evidence in a psyop to confuse everyone? Not the first time…

a reply to: Baddogma

But your point is spot on. I'm just hoping I don't catch his meme .. .I've so far been immune to all zillion previous "end-of-the-world" projections, and know all our world's end, life's but a dream, yadda yadda…

I was infected by the "yadda yadda" back in the 80's. We had a survivalist bent then too. It blew over, nobody got nuked. Don't trip, we don't usually see the 'gonna get yas' that are gonna get us. No amount of preparation will prevent that.

Common sense also says to carry an umbrella if it looks like rain, wear your seatbelt, check the gas gauge…

For some perspective (hopefully):

There's all sorts of planetary-sized bodies out there (Kuiper Belt area) which would be included inside of our outer solar system boundary. This one was temporarily named the 10th Planet which was before Pluto was downgraded.

a reply to: intrptr

Agree with you for the most part. I can look at supposed "Nibiru" photographs and see how they were produced.

When it comes to a planet/dark star that might have a wide elliptical orbit that may influence cometary bodies flying toward Earth on a regular basis, I'm not so sure. Maybe it is so. There is evidence that it is so that I can't dispute.

Way back when ATS had comments on our 'wall' before we had a wall, my comment was: "Nibiru is my guilty pleasure. I don't really believe in it, but I can't help enjoying tracking it."

a reply to: argentus

"Nibiru is my guilty pleasure. I don't really believe in it, but I can't help enjoying tracking it."

Every time they discover more about the reaches of our solar system, they move those guilt- I mean goal posts.

From tweeties link just above your post:

This places the new planet more or less in the Kuiper Belt, a dark realm beyond Neptune where thousands of small icy bodies orbit the sun. The planet appears to be typical of Kuiper Belt objects--only much bigger. Its sheer size in relation to the nine known planets means that it can only be classified as a planet itself, Brown says.

a reply to: DarkStarRising Hi all, been a while... good to be back.. I find it interesting the PTB here have chosen to put planet x in skunk works when even main stream has come out now and reported on it. It is a reality. Nothing skunky about it lol. My wife and I saw this or some planet last year and I have seen it a few times since then. When we saw it the thing was huge... our sun had just gone down and we had watched and were turning to go inside and we saw it there. It was farther off to the right of where our sun had gone down on the horizon than most of the pics I have seen.

It was also a whitish/bluish color and had a small dark moon or other planet covering part of it's center. We were seeing with the naked eye and stood kinda mesmerized for however long it took it too to fall below the horizon. This is when I first found out about this planet as I started doing research.

I also find it strange that our govt's, like ATS, has chosen not to acknowledge what is so obviously real and out there. It is also very obvious that it is having an effect already on the earth and our solar system. They are seeing many strange things on other planets and we have had more earthquakes and volcano's than any other year they started taking records. We had record 38 volcano's going off at one time this year.

There are other things going on that could be hurting us, CERN being the main culprit and there is also the next generation HAARP weapon that has been used. As for the veil, interesting theory... but, since we and so many others have seen it with the naked eye I am not sure it holds the answer. I tend more to believe most of us are stuck in THEIR BOX in our minds and can't see out side of it. Some of us think and see outside of it for whatever reason.

It is evident that most are brainwashed and are sheep.... I think most people don't see it because of this reason. Plus, they have done a real good job of hiding it with chem-trails that have been serving many purposes for them.

I noticed here for example, on days that it is going to be obviously seen with naked eye they will come through and chemtrail the sunset so no one can see it. Can be perfect blue sky and they come through in an hour before sunset and block it out. It is so obvious they are hiding something. lol...

Nice thread...

The Bot

P.S. Did anyone else notice that the sun was way out of position for sun set tonight. Also noticed the moon out of position and showing during early morning hours couple weeks ago when it should not have been...

Weird..

the bot

p.s.s watched an interesting video by major ed danes, the remote viewer. His team has great record and they forsee a kill shot from the sun. One of the preceeding events is n. korea sets off nuclear explosion. was confused whether they think it was an attack or something else... but, very convincing... should watch his video..

originally posted by: dlbott
P.S. Did anyone else notice that the sun was way out of position for sun set tonight. Also noticed the moon out of position and showing during early morning hours couple weeks ago when it should not have been...

So you are the only person that noticed that....

His team has great record

Of failures!

and they forsee a kill shot from the sun.

Back in 2014, so another failure by Dames!

www.abovetopsecret.com...

originally posted by: hellobruce

originally posted by: dlbott
P.S. Did anyone else notice that the sun was way out of position for sun set tonight. Also noticed the moon out of position and showing during early morning hours couple weeks ago when it should not have been...

So you are the only person that noticed that....

His team has great record

Of failures!

and they for see a kill shot from the sun.

Back in 2014, so another failure by Dames!

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Well, I sure did not miss the sarcastic, negative comments lol. Not sure what the so I was only one comment was about as I asked if anyone else noticed lol. As for Major Dames, well being a Vet who worked in DOD in several labs and contractors after service I knew of His program and He did have very accurate success. So much so he was given very high rewards three times for the accurate work they did, which is classified but suffice it to say they were right on and saved many lives.

As for after His service with His own company if you did your research you would also find that they had many successful and accurate warnings. These were given on national coast to coast and came to pass very accurately, some in as little as two weeks.

If you did any research you would also know that remote viewers are looking out into the future for particular key words and events. When they find one they don't know when in time they occur. It could be tomorrow, or next year. They find something and then try and narrow down events leading up to it to try and give a time line. In doing so they have been very accurate on many many warnings. Such as warning of a kill shot that would be near miss, reported two weeks before it happened. Fukishima warning within a few months and on and on.

Now, are they going to be right all the time.... don't think so... there has been only one way to know exactly what was going to happen and that has been the bible, which despite what you are going to say has been completely accurate and never wrong.

Of which I would say that if you read revelations you will find that it accurately describes death from a kill shot from the sun...

I do prescribe to what the bible says is going to happen and not necessarily Mr. Dames. Like I said in the post, I found it interesting and brought out some of His warnings including the kill shot and simply stated it was worth a look.
You have an uninformed strong view against their work, that is ok too.... don't watch... pretty simple..... no need to be so sarcastic towards me about it lol... peace brother, I am just glad to be back and having great conversation. Look forward to disagreeing in the future....
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