Undetected Biowarfare

a reply to: VictorVonDoom

I accentuated part b) because I felt it was the important part.

I prefer the full context. Always.

Unethical human experimentation in the United States

Yes. I know. That's why laws have been enacted. Laws like the one which you (partially) cited.

originally posted by: Phage

I prefer the full context. Always.

Which is why I provided the link, so that people could read the full law from a reputable source. If you think I should have copied and pasted the entire text into my post, I'll keep that in mind next time I see you post a few lines from a multi-page document.

originally posted by: Phage
Yes. I know. That's why laws have been enacted. Laws like the one which you (partially) cited.

I can appreciate that you believe that the US Department of Defense would follow the law or ethical standards when it comes to medical testing on humans. I don't share that faith, however. There are far too many examples of three letter agencies ignoring the law when convenient.

a reply to: VictorVonDoom

There are far too many examples of three letter agencies ignoring the law when convenient.

In which case, your selective quoting of the law is irrelevant.

You attempted to make it sound like the law allows unrestricted testing by the military. It doesn't.

You now claim that the law doesn't matter anyway.

originally posted by: elementalgrove
a reply to: riley

Gonna want to add the variety of Lymes disease to this list!

yup. Beat me to it. I have Lyme with a bartonella coinfection (at the very least). It is all of this and more. 98% of alzheimers patients have Lyme in their brain fluid. Scary, and very little help to be found. Thanks to the OP for the post.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: VictorVonDoom

There are far too many examples of three letter agencies ignoring the law when convenient.

In which case, your selective quoting of the law is irrelevant.

You attempted to make it sound like the law allows unrestricted testing by the military. It doesn't.

You now claim that the law doesn't matter anyway.

Yes, the law does allow biological warfare testing by the Department of Defense specifically because of the exceptions I selectively quoted. Those exceptions are legal loopholes big enough to float a battleship through, which was the point of my post, so my selective quoting was entirely relevant to my post.

And yes, the law doesn't matter anyway because there are no significant penalties for breaking the law. If Bayer, working under the DoD, were to get the "consent" of some illiterate prisoners for Anthrax testing, and those prisoners die, no one would serve a day in jail over it. At worst, their families might get some taxpayer money after a decade or so. And that's only if it were discovered and proven.

originally posted by: VictorVonDoom

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: VictorVonDoom

There are far too many examples of three letter agencies ignoring the law when convenient.

In which case, your selective quoting of the law is irrelevant.

You attempted to make it sound like the law allows unrestricted testing by the military. It doesn't.

You now claim that the law doesn't matter anyway.

Yes, the law does allow biological warfare testing by the Department of Defense specifically because of the exceptions I selectively quoted. Those exceptions are legal loopholes big enough to float a battleship through, which was the point of my post, so my selective quoting was entirely relevant to my post.

And yes, the law doesn't matter anyway because there are no significant penalties for breaking the law. If Bayer, working under the DoD, were to get the "consent" of some illiterate prisoners for Anthrax testing, and those prisoners die, no one would serve a day in jail over it. At worst, their families might get some taxpayer money after a decade or so. And that's only if it were discovered and proven.

Not unlike the WHO and the Melinda Gates Foundation working together eradicating polio with vaccines that were banned in western countries..

a reply to: riley

I don't know if you've seen this yet, but I highly recommend it.



It's kind of long, but it covers a lot of information, including the mycoplasmas that you mentioned in your original post. The video indicates that Africa is the go to spot these days for human pharmaceutical testing. They are told they are getting free vaccines or medicine, but they have no way of understanding what else is included in those doses.

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