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originally posted by: roadgravel
a reply to: NoCorruptionAllowed
All the parameters in the world don't matter if it doesn't work. That's makes it just a wish.
Even though the research project was met with early success, the CIA would regularly send independent analysts to test the remote viewing team. After the declassification of the program, during a presentation at the Arlington Institute, Hal Puthoff remarked that, “The CIA was not happy seeing us achieve good results. Their hope was to prove that the research the Russians were doing was simply nonsense. So every time we got excited about a good result the CIA would get more depressed.”
In one instance, a validation target was chosen by a figurehead at the CIA, and he opted to see whether or not the remote viewing team would be able to accurately describe his friend’s vacation cabin in West Virginia. To ensure no collusion could occur within the research project, none of the team members, including the physicists, were told the designated remote viewing target.
Pat Price and Ingo Swann were the two remote viewers who worked on the project. Ingo described that there really wasn’t much going on at the target site, simply some woods and a few cabins. However, unbeknownst to the project tasker, just over the ridge from his friend’s cabin was a top-secret NSA research facility. During the remote viewing session, Ingo quickly picked up on this hidden complex and began to describe it, figuring that it was the intended target since there wasn’t much going on near the original coordinates that were provided. Additionally, it was later discovered that the greater the effort expended to hide a person, place, or thing, the brighter it shines and stands out to a remote viewer.
When Pat Price viewed the validation target, he also picked up on this facility. Being slightly more adventurous than Ingo, he decided to move his mental perception down into the underground hallways and recite the name tags of people walking around in the building. He also stumbled across a room that contained a locked safe with documents inside, and was able to describe what was written within.
After the remote viewing team completed the project and passed the information back to the CIA, the entire intelligence apparatus of the country, including law enforcement, showed up at SRI’s doorstep demanding answers. The NSA facility did actually exist, and the remote viewing report was so accurate that the team was interrogated on the premise of national security.
originally posted by: SallieSunshine
That is interesting. But the future is always changing.
John Hogue over at Hogue Prophecy says that his oracle tells him Hillary will win as long as she doesn't suffer a major health setback.
We live in interesting times. ; )
Sal
a reply to: Informer1958
This thread is about what Remote Viewers saw in a blind study. So what is your "opinion" to Remote viewing? Have you ever researched Remote Viewing?
Remote viewing has always had the mission parameter of past present or future.
“Remote Viewing (RV) is the acquisition and description, by mental means, of information blocked from ordinary perception by distance or shielding, and generally believed to be secure against such access.”
– SRI quarterly progress report for the DIA – Jan 10, 1979 – H.E. Puthoff, Ingo. Swann, Gary. Langford
What Remote Viewing is NOT!
Remote viewing is NOT used to give “psychic readings,” “tell fortunes” or other sorts of popular classical psychic activities of this nature, but is rather a means of doing serious scientific research and for performing operational tasks in criminal investigations, government intelligence work, commercial applications and alike.
originally posted by: Gazrok
Don't ever recall part of it involving making predictions about the future. That's a completely different field of psychic phenomenon...precognition. Remote viewing is all about getting impressions of a distant or unseen target, not the target in the future.
originally posted by: Gazrok
Will have to agree to disagree there. During the military experiments, this was the used definition:
“Remote Viewing (RV) is the acquisition and description, by mental means, of information blocked from ordinary perception by distance or shielding, and generally believed to be secure against such access.”
– SRI quarterly progress report for the DIA – Jan 10, 1979 – H.E. Puthoff, Ingo. Swann, Gary. Langford
One "could" expand "remote" to include being remote in time, but again, there is a completely different field for this phenomenon.
a. Remote Viewing (RV): The name of a method of psychoenergetic perception. A term coined by SRI-International and defined as "the acquisition and description, by mental means, of information blocked from ordinary perception by distance, shielding or time."
Source: Declassified Controlled Remote Viewing Manual - www.firedocs.com...
"It is well known and recently has been widely discussed that nothing in the fundamental laws of physics forbids the apparent transmission of information from the future to the present. Furthermore, there is a general dictum that "in physical law, everything that is not forbidden, is required". With this in mind, we set out to conduct very well-controlled experiments to determine whether we could deliberately design and execute experiments for the sole purpose of observing precognition under laboratory conditions.
The experimental protocol was identical to that followed in previous remote-viewing experiments with but one exception. The exception was that the subject was required to describe the remote location during a 15-min perdiod before the target was selected and 35 min before the outbound experimenter was to arrive at the target location.
... Four such experiments were carried out. Each of them appeared to be successful, an evaluation later verified in blind judging without error by three judges... For reasons we do not as yet understand, (these experiments) show exceptional coherence and accuracy as evidence by the fact that all of the judges were able to match successfully all of the transcripts to the corresponding target locations... Currently, we have no precise model of this spatial and temporal remote-viewing phenomenon. However, models of the universe involving higher order synchronicity or correlation have been proposed by the physicist Pauli and the the psychologist Carl Jung."
Source: H. E. Puthoff & R. Targ, “A Perceptual Channel for Information Transfer Over Kilometer distances: Historical Perspective and Recent Research.” Proc. IEEE, Vol. 64, no. 3, pp. 329 – 254