Time to raise the voting age.

a reply to: xstealth

Might as well lower it and have anyone who can read vote

Voter turnout is ~55% since the 1940s. link

21-23% of voters can't read well enough to find information in text link (p17)

Then again, most voters are over 45 and have graduated college.

Looks like educated, mature voters use their votes more than anyone else.

a reply to: Sremmos80

People trying to get higher education are "losers". You read that right folks.

Wtf kind of world are we turning into when education is looked down upon like this?

a reply to: xstealth

BTW , in reality the group of people that are focusing on the real issue that is effecting this country are those college kids.

While their parents and likely yourself are preoccupied discussing the same things for the last century such as medicaid,ss,taxes,jobs,economy, healthcare, etc They are actually focusing on the real issue of corruption , lobbying, and conflict of interest.

So thinking about it again, perhaps only 18-25 should be voters because they haven't been indoctrinated by the GOP,DNC, MSM, and the Oligarch when it comes to politics.

If the government takes taxes out of your pay check then you are old enough to vote,no matter what your age is, otherwise it`s taxation without representation.
If you`re old enough to be legally responsible for yourself then you`re old enough to vote otherwise as a legal adult you would have no say in the laws that you have to live by.

originally posted by: interupt42

originally posted by: rickymouse
Thirty five is a better age, since you have to be thirty five to be president, you should be thirty five to vote for president.

That way the young people will learn how to tell which candidate is telling the truth. Oh yeah, none of them tell the truth. Never mind.

LOL, What we really need todo is revoke the voting rights of all those that Still believe the two party system is not owned by the Oligarch. So all democrats and Republcans should have their voting privileges revoked.

Its the only way

We need to revoke the voting rights of the people who think they actually choose the president. Obviously they are delusional and crazy people should not be allowed to vote.

It will be a lot cheaper if only a million people are allowed to vote.

The reason the voting age is 18 instead of 21 is only because you can join the Army at 18 and die for your country. That was the impetus to change the voting age. It was done with the 26th amendment and ratified in 1971, when there was still a draft. As part of the Constitution it would be pretty near impossible to rescind it. In the Senate it was 94-0 and in the House it was 401-19. It was ratified faster than any other amendment in history.

a reply to: and14263

Conditioned? Perhaps it's an absolutely retarded idea to force people to take a test to vote?

I'll say it again. The Constitution was created to prevent oppression from people just like you.

a reply to: rickymouse

We need to revoke the voting rights of the people who think they actually choose the president. Obviously they are delusional and crazy people should not be allowed to vote.

It will be a lot cheaper if only a million people are allowed to vote.

LOL, you are optimistic!

I think taking all of us here on ATS that are aware of the game and others outside ATS we would be lucky to hit 100K.

originally posted by: Tardacus
If the government takes taxes out of your pay check then you are old enough to vote,no matter what your age is, otherwise it`s taxation without representation.
If you`re old enough to be legally responsible for yourself then you`re old enough to vote otherwise as a legal adult you would have no say in the laws that you have to live by.

I guess you didn't read the last sentence in my original post, exemptions to military and working people who pay taxes.

If were really discussing Age limits fine then Set ALL age limits to the point where a person can Legally enter Binding Contracts with out the signature of a parent and or guardian. That Should include all personal and professional choices be it smoking, drinking, prison, military, and voting.

Old enough to die for Uncle Scam old enough to tell Uncle Scam where to Stick it.

originally posted by: BrokedownChevy
a reply to: Sremmos80

People trying to get higher education are "losers". You read that right folks.

Wtf kind of world are we turning into when education is looked down upon like this?

The reason why education is looked down upon is because even though people are equipped with easily Googleable facts they have no common sense.

College doesn't raise your drive, creativity, or critical thinking skills it's just a piece of paper you pay a lot of money too show that you've studied something and it's been verified by an accredited institution.

originally posted by: Tardacus
If the government takes taxes out of your pay check then you are old enough to vote,no matter what your age is, otherwise it`s taxation without representation.
If you`re old enough to be legally responsible for yourself then you`re old enough to vote otherwise as a legal adult you would have no say in the laws that you have to live by.

a reply to: Tardacus

Yep. The concept is so simple. Tbh, it's one of the most basic principles from which America is founded on. We've heard this thing before, if you're young and you're getting an education you're automatically liberal so let's exclude you because you'll vote against my beliefs. Who's more mature here in reality?

a reply to: xstealth

We have adults who keep on voting the same career politicians into office year after year! We have politicians like John McCain, Mitch McConnell, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid and many others who are into their 70's who refuse to step down! It's not the young people, it's the people who think it's ok for politicians to make a career out of something that should only be temporary!

It's why our politicians ignore their constituents and use their office to self-serve their own needs. The old career politicians use their political clout to stifle new ideas from newly elected politicians.

a reply to: xstealth
I disagree completely. If anything, we should both lower AND cap the voting age. Children should gain the vote at age 12, because those children will be living with (an paying for) the consequences of their votes for the next 60, 70, or even 80 years.

At the same time, elderly people - say, people over the age of 65 - should not be allowed to vote because most of them are no longer members of the workforce and many of them are slowly losing their mental faculties, and they will not have to live with the social and economic consequences of their votes for much longer in any case. They're just hanging out in their living rooms watching FOX News and voting however Bill O'Reilly tells them to because they are afraid of change.

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originally posted by: DISRAELI
a reply to: xstealth
It won't happen, because the voting age was lowered in the first place by people who fancied their chances of influencing those who had little knowledge of the world, and who were therefore more susceptible to idealistic theories. The same people are beginning to agitate in my country to lower the age again to 16. Obviously they are going to resist any attempt to disfranchise their [gullible] target voters.

It actually had more to do with the Vietnam War and the fact that people who couldn't even vote were being drafted to go fight and die in a foreign war.

a reply to: theantediluvian
That explanation isn't applicable to the change in Britain.

originally posted by: schuyler
The reason the voting age is 18 instead of 21 is only because you can join the Army at 18 and die for your country. That was the impetus to change the voting age. It was done with the 26th amendment and ratified in 1971, when there was still a draft. As part of the Constitution it would be pretty near impossible to rescind it. In the Senate it was 94-0 and in the House it was 401-19. It was ratified faster than any other amendment in history.

Exactly. There's quite a bit of irony in read a bunch of people who are ignorant of the topic opine that other people shouldn't be allowed to vote because of their supposed ignorance.

a reply to: onequestion

College isn't a slip of paper. A degree is a slip of paper, but the years you spend in college allow you opportunities to acquire knowledge and skills which you can apply however you choose. I'm not sure what your expectations of college or any educational apparatus are, but it doesn't include making or raising someone's creativity. No one expects that ever.

a reply to: xstealth

In theory your post makes sense, but then you really take a look at it and older voters are voting for Trump and Hillary and Jeb Bush, so that just kind of negates everything you just said. It would seem that the older you get the more "stupider" you get, meaning we should lower the voting age. No one over 25 gets to vote. Look at all the people the older generation keeps voting into congress every year. I know that young voters aren't voting for Mitch Mcconnell or Barbara Boxer or Nancy Pelosi. It's the older voters that don't have a clue as to how real life works. Don't take my word for it. Look at who old people keep voting for.