Galatians; The Spirit and the flesh

a reply to: DISRAELI

Why areyou trolling your own thread?

Just because more than one person in the world apparently doesn't agree with you doesn't mean that they are all one person.

Inoticed you offer nothing in the form of a rebuttal. Is it because you know the facts are not in your favor?

a reply to: DISRAELI

Yeah, it gets so boring hearing the same old unfounded opinions of men railing against God's Preserved word day in and day out.

Telling us the English name Jesus was not his real name, But that it is the Hebrew name Yeshua. It is as if he doesn't understand that Jesus is the English transliteration of Yeshua.

Telling us Paul is a phoney and liar while they become very rude, indignant and call people names. then they get banned they have to quickly change to a VPN or and IP masking so they can come back and do it all over again all the while acting if they are new to the forum.

But guys like this will believe men over God's word any day.

And ATS will do their job and ban him again.

a reply to: ChesterJohn
This is all another aspect of "the flesh" striving against the Spirit.

a reply to: DISRAELI


Yes so true.

How long will he battle the Spirit.

He has become a joke the odd thing is there are some who will take him serious but that is what deceivers want.

I look forward to your conclusion of Galatians.

originally posted by: ChesterJohn
a reply to: DISRAELI


Yes so true.

How long will he battle the Spirit.

He has become a joke the odd thing is there are some who will take him serious but that is what deceivers want.

I look forward to your conclusion of Galatians.

I have the Holy Spirit in me which is why you oppose my position. The Holy Spirit is the Advocate and the Spirit of Truth.

I tell the truth even when hideous souls oppose me because I know I am protected by the Spirit of Truth.

I have been Baptized with the Spirit and the fire, as well as water.

Nothing you can do or say will ever derail my mission.

a reply to: Mazzini

yeah you have told us that before but we are beginning to doubt it very much.

You do know that that if one is baptised by fire it is JUDGEMENT and not something good?

You have been duped into believing an out of context teaching. You would do best to get a preserved Bible and study that verse in Context. Because the last thing you want is to be baptised with Fire.

Great to have you back Gnosisisfaith and your other 18 plus user account names you use here at ATS.

I wont stop you but ATS will and then you will have to come up with another name and start all over.

originally posted by: ChesterJohn
a reply to: Mazzini

yeah you have told us that before but we are beginning to doubt it very much.

You do know that that if one is baptised by fire it is JUDGEMENT and not something good?

You have been duped into believing an out of context teaching. You would do best to get a preserved Bible and study that verse in Context. Because the last thing you want is to be baptised with Fire.

Great to have you back Gnosisisfaith and your other 18 plus user account names you use here at ATS.

I wont stop you but ATS will and then you will have to come up with another name and start all over.

You obviously have no intentions other than attacking me. I can take comfort that you have no say in the judgment of my soul.

I have the Holy Spirit. I am like the wind. You know not from where I come or go, but you know I speak the truth. That's why you choose to oppose me because I am a threat to the lies told by men about God. As a defender of the truth you see me as an enemy. That's how I know I am doing a good job. Everything you say makes me smile and laugh. I ridicule lies and as such, liars hate me.

a reply to: ChesterJohn

I am going to quote John the Baptist and prove you don't know what you are talking about regarding baptism by fire.

Matthew 3:11 " I baptize you with water for repentance, but one who is more powerful than I is coming after me; I am not worthy to carry his sandals. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit AND WITH FIRE..."

So I guess you don't know # about the baptism of fire and the Spirit.

That's why you oppose me, because you don't read your bible apparently. You just equated Jesus baptism of fire with going to hell.

I just proved you wrong. How does that feel?

a reply to: ChesterJohn

That's a quote, nothing to do with hell or punishment. Baptized with the Spirit and with fire is something that happens when you receive the Spirit, and it occurs simultaneously with each other. Do you think that John was telling his followers that the baptism of fire was bad? He clearly was saying that it's superior to water baptism.

I look forward to my judgment.

a reply to: Mazzini

It was baptism with the spirit for those who believed and fire for those who don't.

But for someone who only believes in men and not the word of God I can't expect you to understand the Bible.

I don't worry as my Judgement was carried on the cross never to come up again.

a reply to: ChesterJohn

That's incorrect baptized with the Spirit and the fire happen to the same person.

You are baptized with both the Spirit and fire, not either or.

You are dead wrong. It's simply not what John said and you would prefer twisting the truth than admit you are wrong. That speaks volumes of your character.

a reply to: ChesterJohn

If what you are saying was true John would have said:

"... with the Spirit or with fire."

But he said:

"...with the Spirit AND with fire."


You don't have a leg to stand on in this argument.

a reply to: Mazzini

No not if you understand that he was speaking to one people, ISRAEL. If you keep the context you see judgement on both sides of the baptized quote you make

Mt 3:7 ¶ But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism, he said unto them, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?
8 Bring forth therefore fruits meet for repentance:
9 And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.
10 And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: therefore every tree which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
11 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire: (see the comma it separates the baptism of the Holy Ghost from the baptism with fire)
12 Whose fan is in his hand, and he will throughly purge his floor, and gather his wheat into the garner; but he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire.

Baptism with the HOLY GHOST is not the same thing as Baptism with fire. the context shows that John is speaking of one who would come a judge rightly and when he does one will be filled with the Spirit of God the other with indignation and wrath. When Jesus appeared he divided the Jews.

originally posted by: ChesterJohn
a reply to: Mazzini

No not if you understand that he was speaking to one people, ISRAEL. If you keep the context you see judgement on both sides of the baptized quote you make

Mt 3:7 ¶ But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism, he said unto them, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?
8 Bring forth therefore fruits meet for repentance:
9 And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.
10 And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: therefore every tree which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
11 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire: (see the comma it separates the baptism of the Holy Ghost from the baptism with fire)
12 Whose fan is in his hand, and he will throughly purge his floor, and gather his wheat into the garner; but he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire.

Baptism with the HOLY GHOST is not the same thing as Baptism with fire. the context shows that John is speaking of one who would come a judge rightly and when he does one will be filled with the Spirit of God the other with indignation and wrath. When Jesus appeared he divided the Jews.

If you believe that he was only talking to Jews then this conversation is over as you are clearly misreprenting the teachings of Jesus to be some form of racism.

That's just not true and if you really believe the filth you are spewing you are insane.

The world is NOT divided into Jew and Gentile.

Jesus didn't teach the fallacy you are spewing. That's a false interpretation of his teachings.

I suspect you know I have proven you wrong and you are just using the "that only applies to Jews" as a way to save face. It didn't work.

a reply to: Mazzini

racism that's good.

The good news of the Kingdom was for Israel your failure to see that tells me you don't have the holy Ghost.

spewing filth, oh my 3 d's in action dismiss, debunk and demean yet you skipped right by debunk.

No the world is divided into Jew, gentile and the church of God and that by God's word 1 Cor 10:32

No fallacy when you look at the context, which you failed to do, it showed the verse means that He Jesus would baptise the believers with the Holy Ghost and the unbelieving Jews with Fire of judgement.

Just because you do not know how to rightly divide the word of truth doesn't mean we all don't.

originally posted by: ChesterJohn
a reply to: Mazzini

racism that's good.

The good news of the Kingdom was for Israel your failure to see that tells me you don't have the holy Ghost.

spewing filth, oh my 3 d's in action dismiss, debunk and demean yet you skipped right by debunk.

No the world is divided into Jew, gentile and the church of God and that by God's word 1 Cor 10:32

No fallacy when you look at the context, which you failed to do, it showed the verse means that He Jesus would baptise the believers with the Holy Ghost and the unbelieving Jews with Fire of judgement.

Just because you do not know how to rightly divide the word of truth doesn't mean we all don't.

The good news is for Israel only?

Yeah right, you are preaching lies pal. Jesus is for everyone. We are all one people there are no special rules for the Jews and seperate ones for non Jews.

A Christian is a Christian.

Anyone who preaches seperate Gospels for Jew vs Gentile is a liar and of the Devil.

a reply to: ChesterJohn


That is factually the most vile thing I ever heard anybody claim about the Gospel of Christ.

a reply to: ChesterJohn


Romans 10: 11-13

The scripture says, " No one who believes in him will be put to shame." FOR THERE IS NO DISTINCTION BETWEEN JEW AND GENTILE; the same Lord is Lord of all and is generous TO ALL WHO CALL ON HIM. FOR, " EVERYONE WHO CALLS ON THE NAME OF THE LORD SHALL BE SAVED."

Now, tell us again how there are are seperate Gospels Good News or a Kingdom that distinguishes between Jew and Gentile.

I have just proven that there is no difference between Jew and Gentile. See how the serpent of lies fills people with false doctrines. I am sure I will receive at some point an aggressive response from the one who claims seperate Gospels saying how it doesn't actually mean what it says and that it really means this.

But it will be more lies for me to expose.

I live to expose false preachers of unbiblical doctrine.

I can only imagine the lies that will be cooked up to explain away that particular fallacy, but I can not see how anyone could possibly read that SCRIPTURAL QUOTE A and turn around in the same sentence and say that there is a Gospel only available to Jews.

This will either be really interesting or he will cower and not respond.

Either way, if anybody ever tells you that Jesus was only preaching to the Jews you can quote Paul himself and refute them easily.

Don't be seduced by serpents.