Atheist, why are you so offended at anothers display of faith?

originally posted by: Klassified

originally posted by: TerryDon79

originally posted by: Klassified

originally posted by: TerryDon79
a reply to: ChesterJohn

Someone got offended by a cross being built and they had to drive pass it?

Talk about a stupid thing to complain about.

A whole bunch of Christians got offended by an atheist billboard, because they had to drive "pass" it.
Talk about a stupid thing to complain about.

I didn't hear about that. But surely a cross is just a display and the atheist billboard would more likely mock or demean religion?

Surely you are wrong and narrow-minded about atheists...

Turns out some locals were very unhappy by that message even though it was aimed at non-religious people:

Link

So I'm narrow minded about atheists even though I am one myself?

I can't see why anyone would be upset by that billboard apart from the "everyone has to be a Christian and if you're not I'll make you one" types.

I think it's just comes down to some devout religious people and devout agnostic/atheist people who take offence at anything the other does/says that contradicts their belief/lack of belief.

originally posted by: TerryDon79

originally posted by: ChesterJohn
a reply to: TerryDon79

Thanks terrydon79, your input is insightful.

I'd just like to point out that what I posted is my opinion. I don't speak for every atheist out there.

I also know there are some atheists that literally go out of their way to demean anybody of any religion. Why? I have no idea as I find it pointless to do so as it is just a waste of time and they could be doing something more productive.

here here I also think that when religious people go out of their way to demean others of religions and non belief it is also pointless.

a reply to: BELIEVERpriest

I have faith in eternal reward and paradise, and I assure you I am not a killer. So faith cannot be made the scapegoat for human volition.

If your faith teaches something, it is more likely you will abide by the tenants than do the opposite. If your faith professes a specific path to your eternal reward and paradise, it is more likely you will follow it than go in the opposite direction.

a reply to: ChesterJohn

When you hear something that just defies logic, sometimes it's just really hard not to comment on it.

For example, my aunt told me about her daughter in law getting into a horrible car crash. The daughter in law is okay but the car got totaled and her dog died in the crash. My (very religious) aunt kept saying that it was God who saved the daughter in law's life (but somehow thought it was okay to kill the innocent dog?), and it was God who changed my aunt's plans to be out of town that day so she could be there for her son and daughter in law. Ain't God great! I literally had to bite my tongue not to ask why God let the wreck happen in the first place, if he could control my aunt's travel plans?

I wasn't offended exactly, but the lack of common sense just boggles my mind.

a reply to: ChesterJohn

Why would an Atheist go out of their way to counter people of faith if they are more enlightened than those whom they oppose?

You answered your own question, Chester.

I know why the religious do as they do it is usually mandated in their text to share and proselytise.

We don't care that it is mandated in your texts. We have grown weary of the 2000 years of oppression of those who do not believe in Christian mythology, and having that mythology shoved down our throats. Tired enough that many are now shoving back, and Christians are crying persecution. "Persecution" that Christians have brought on themselves with their self-righteous bigotry.

Yes, we do have a "mandate". To show people there is life outside religion. They don't have to be afraid of the Christian privileged in the U.S. any more. They don't have to tolerate the heavy handed Christian tactics any more. Atheists and other non-Christians have just as much right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness as Christians do.

a reply to: nonspecific

While I agree that some of the societal practices found in some religious text would not fit today. I do find many an application from the Holy Bible that work very well in my personal walk.

I would share my walk with those who are interested but I would not force it on anyone who does not want to hear it.

a reply to: Klassified

Oh so an Atheist is never ever narrow minded, hypocritical or legalistic?

a reply to: TerryDon79
I'm not sure I believe you are an atheist. If you were, you would know better than to have said...

I didn't hear about that. But surely a cross is just a display and the atheist billboard would more likely mock or demean religion?

originally posted by: ChesterJohn
a reply to: Klassified

Oh so an Atheist is never ever narrow minded, hypocritical or legalistic?

I never said that.

But the difference between us, is that I don't think you need to be an atheist. Unfortunately, the same cannot be said the other way around.

a reply to: Klassified

oh so now some Atheist are militaristic and highly offended because you were oppressed over the last 2000 years?

Do you see this TerryDon79. I think we have found why there are some who think Atheism is a religion.

Do you see for this one and those he claims to represents it is fight fire with fire. Not a live and let live like other Atheist do.

I think I have now come to see why SOME not ALL, Atheist are offended at Christianity, yes you limited your rhetoric to the Christian faith when you said 2000 years and then went on a rampage against Christianity. But I was generalizing and encompassing you were not.

There is not one instance in at least 60 years of any one Christian group being heavy handed in tactics.

would you mind enlightening us ignorant fools of which heavy handed tactics you speak of that have happened in your life time?

Very interesting to see such hatred towards Christianity come from such an enlightened being?

This is just another troll thread, in essence..IMHO .a transparent trick ,and excuse to proseletize in reverse psychology fashion by getting the discussion itself going...meh....nothing serious going on here eh Chester?

Just wondering what the rabble thinks are we?
Watching faith based activity is like watching somebody pay good money for a lotto ticket with a sure faith they are gonna cash in .....good luck with that....

a reply to: Klassified

oh between us and them is that how you see it?

So it is not really about being offended now is it?

It is something entirely different from being offended.

Why don't you say that in the newspapers and the court rooms?

And you call us narrow minded and ignorant.

a reply to: bandersnatch

actually I am now seeing there are two different types of Atheist.

One that live and let live and another that is militaristic in their intolerance of Christianity. Notice I did not say religion in this case because one Atheist made it very clear it is Christianity he hates.

I never thought an Atheist would be so hateful.

originally posted by: Klassified
a reply to: TerryDon79
I'm not sure I believe you are an atheist. If you were, you would know better than to have said...

I didn't hear about that. But surely a cross is just a display and the atheist billboard would more likely mock or demean religion?

Oh I am. You can even ask Chester as we got into quite a debate before.

And like I said in that post, I hadn't heard about the billboard before. Atheists/religious people do like to go out of their way to mock or demean each other. I find it pointless.

originally posted by: Klassified
a reply to: TerryDon79
I'm not sure I believe you are an atheist. If you were, you would know better than to have said...

I didn't hear about that. But surely a cross is just a display and the atheist billboard would more likely mock or demean religion?

He is right you know. If an Atheist goes out of his way to mock a religion there is something wrong with that person, minimally they are being narrow minded and intolerant.

I met two Atheist here on ATS and they are nothing like you.

originally posted by: ChesterJohn
a reply to: nonspecific

While I agree that some of the societal practices found in some religious text would not fit today. I do find many an application from the Holy Bible that work very well in my personal walk.

I would share my walk with those who are interested but I would not force it on anyone who does not want to hear it.

I do not see how any of the religious social practices fit the world I personally live in.

I live in the UK in the year 2016, how do the teachings of people in a now defunct culture several thousand miles away that have been manipulated for getting on for 2000 years by those who choose to exploit the poor and ill educated possibly have any relation to how I should live my life?

This is a genuine question and I am interested in your answers.

I'm agnostic, but one argument I constantly see militant atheists use is that "religion" is responsible for the worst atrocities in history, completely ignoring the fact that about 160 million people were killed in the last century under atheist regimes like Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot.

Like a firearm, religion doesn't kill. People kill. And they will always find a way to justify their actions.

a reply to: TerryDon79

TerryDon79, you are a person I do respect. I learned a lot from the other thread about what makes a true Atheist.

But this guy and the ones that agree with him are what I termed militaristic. They are actively going out of their way to counter anything Christian.

originally posted by: ChesterJohn
a reply to: Klassified

oh so now some Atheist are militaristic and highly offended because you were oppressed over the last 2000 years?

Do you see this TerryDon79. I think we have found why there are some who think Atheism is a religion.

Do you see for this one and those he claims to represents it is fight fire with fire. Not a live and let live like other Atheist do.

I think I have now come to see why SOME not ALL, Atheist are offended at Christianity, yes you limited your rhetoric to the Christian faith when you said 2000 years and then went on a rampage against Christianity. But I was generalizing and encompassing you were not.

There is not one instance in at least 60 years of any one Christian group being heavy handed in tactics.

would you mind enlightening us ignorant fools of which heavy handed tactics you speak of that have happened in your life time?

Very interesting to see such hatred towards Christianity come from such an enlightened being?

Nice try Chester, but I think most here are sharp enough to read the posts, and see the tactic you're using.

There is not one instance in at least 60 years of any one Christian group being heavy handed in tactics.

You might want to re-consider that statement...
WBC ring any bells?
Jesus camps?
Stoning of witches and "adulterers" in Africa.
Christians put up the biggest fight against interracial marriage, Segregation, Gay marriage, etc.
Go Jesus or go to hell.
God is judging this nation! Be afraid! Be very afraid!
The list goes on.

Very interesting to see such hatred towards Christianity come from such an enlightened being?

Your hypocrisy is showing again. It is Christianity/religion that claims the moral high ground/enlightenment.

But now it's just a pissing match. You'd think the elect of god wouldn't bother getting into such with us fools.

originally posted by: ChesterJohn
a reply to: Klassified

oh so now some Atheist are militaristic and highly offended because you were oppressed over the last 2000 years?

Do you see this TerryDon79. I think we have found why there are some who think Atheism is a religion.

Do you see for this one and those he claims to represents it is fight fire with fire. Not a live and let live like other Atheist do.

I think I have now come to see why SOME not ALL, Atheist are offended at Christianity, yes you limited your rhetoric to the Christian faith when you said 2000 years and then went on a rampage against Christianity. But I was generalizing and encompassing you were not.

There is not one instance in at least 60 years of any one Christian group being heavy handed in tactics.

would you mind enlightening us ignorant fools of which heavy handed tactics you speak of that have happened in your life time?

Very interesting to see such hatred towards Christianity come from such an enlightened being?

I think that was something of a low blow and does nothing for the cause you seek to promote.