Russian President Putin orders withdrawal of Russian forces from Syria

originally posted by: theultimatebelgianjoke
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There is an on going genocide, now using chemical weapons.
How many victims does you need before your pull your head out of your own a...

Bollocks , utter and total bollocks .

My cab driver is a Kurd , I eat at a Kurdish restaurant regulary ; my dentist is a Kurd too .

3 million Kurds live in Istanbul and you think there would be some sort of outrage if the allegations are true .

As I said you paint a powerless Kurds who can't defend themselves . Reality is half the police force and quater of armed forces are currently being manned by Kurds .

In your opinon ; these Kurds who are well armed and educated but nevertheless they are just watching Kurds being gassed .

Do you realise how insane you sound ?

Do you realise the belittleing attitude you display towards Kurds ?

Kurds are a rather proud people and they would kill you on the spot for insulting their " Honour " ?


Seriously , you display some kinda vendetta against Turks and your posts are full of misinformation about Turks & Kurds .

originally posted by: theultimatebelgianjoke
a reply to: 23432

My grandfather was a terrorist : that's how the Nazis used to call the resistance fighters under the occupation. I take that kind of empty rhetoric for what it's worth.

Is that your best shot ?
That hardly contradicts dozens of twitter users reporting live from scene ...

So you support ISIS too ?



Tweeter feeds of unanonymous nature is your source ?

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There is no worse blind man than the one who doesn't want to see.

HDP deputy reports claims of chemical gas use in Gever

HDP Hakkari deputy Nihat Akdoğan said locals in Hakkari's Gever (Yüksekova) district told him that Turkish forces used chemical gas in civilian areas.

Voicing concerns over the safety of life of Gever people, HDP MP Akdoğan said he called the governor of Şırnak and district governor of Gever numerous times to ask about the allegations of chemical weapon use, but he wasn't answered.

Akdoğan told the following; “The town is under bombardment for 7 days. Announcements are being made from armored vehicles in order for the evacuation of civilians who are, however, not allowed to get out either. Locals from Eski Kışla, Mezarlık and Orman neighborhoods have called us and asked for help as they cannot breathe due to the gas, the kind of which we do not know but it certainly leaves our people in a very difficult position. Some other reports say that 30 to 40 people were killed by chemical gas, and their bodies are completely burned. An elderly mother called and asked us to save them from 'this gas'.”

Pointing to the threat of an imminent massacre against Gever people, Akdoğan said; "Neither the governor nor a military official can endure the responsibility of a savagery that might be committed here. Crimes against humanity do not drop due to prescription."

HDP deputy called upon all political parties and institutions, NGOs and everyone with conscience to break this silence on the ongoing massacre of Kurds.

Is HDP listed as a terror organisation ?

originally posted by: 23432

So you support ISIS too ?

Tweeter feeds of unanonymous nature is your source ?

Don't try to change roles, YOU back an Islamic Cliphate with Erdogan as leader as expressed in the following thread :

Erdogan cites Hitler's Germany as effective executive presidency

The problem is that this united muslim world is only OK if you avoid taking Shiites and uncooperative Kurds into consideration.

COLUMBIA UNIVERSITY
IN THE CITY OF NEW YORK

INSTITUTE FOR THE STUDY OF HUMAN RIGHTS

Research Paper: ISIS-Turkey Links

By David L. Phillips

Introduction

Is Turkey collaborating with the Islamic State (ISIS)? Allegations range from military cooperation and weapons transfers to logistical support, financial assistance, and the provision of medical services. It is also alleged that Turkey turned a blind eye to ISIS attacks against Kobani.

President Recep Tayyip Erdogan and Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu strongly deny complicity with ISIS. Erdogan visited the Council on Foreign Relations on September 22, 2014. He criticized "smear campaigns [and] attempts to distort perception about us." Erdogan decried, "A systematic attack on Turkey's international reputation, "complaining that "Turkey has been subject to very unjust and ill-intentioned news items from media organizations." Erdogan posited: "My request from our friends in the United States is to make your assessment about Turkey by basing your information on objective sources."

Columbia University's Program on Peace-building and Rights assigned a team of researchers in the United States, Europe, and Turkey to examine Turkish and international media, assessing the credibility of allegations. This report draws on a variety of international sources -- The New York Times, The Washington Post, The Guardian, The Daily Mail, BBC, Sky News, as well as Turkish sources, CNN Turk, Hurriyet Daily News, Taraf, Cumhuriyet, and Radikal among others.

Research Paper : ISIS - Turkey list

Not twitter - Not anonymous.
I'm still waiting for you to back your allegations.

European decision to call PKK a terrorist organisation is the proof of my claim .

If a gas was used then the Kurds in Army and Police force would switch sides ; what do you take the Kurds for ?

Embessils ?

Lack of reaction from the arm forces tells everything one needs to know about these silly claims .

You claim that the Kurds are gassing other Kurds while millions of Kurds stands by and watch .

HPD is pseudo Kurdish party which defends the interest of Armenian terrorist organisation ASALA ; HDP members are hidden Armenians who are pretending to be Kurds .

You either really ignorant or you are delibrately misinforming people .

There is a conspiracy going on but you are no where near it with your " Blame Everything On Turks " outlook .

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So everybody is a terrorist in Turkey unless your are a follower of the Great Leader ?

The only things you can blame on Turks is the consequence of Turkish actions.
Erdogan gone will not remove the problem, he is a product of Turkey. So maybe seeing Turkey implode in a civil war is the best thing to consider in order to relieve the people living in the area at the moment.
For those who fled abroad, it may be re-assuring to back the Caliph in order to avoid thinking about the reasons why so many Turks already left Turkey.
What can Turkish expats find elsewhere than in Turkey ? Freedom of speech, democracy, safety, secularism ... ?
Or do one hope to bring 'Turkish values' with him : endemic corruption, police state, ethnic tensions, ...

So you will NEVER EVER admit the Caliph used WMDs against his own population just because you can't handle the fact ? Sad.
This is fresh news I admit, it took place this afternoon. Just wait 'til this becomes mainstream.

Gever'den son mesaj: Kimyasal nedeniyle ölümle pençeleşiyoruz

originally posted by: theultimatebelgianjoke
a reply to: 23432

So everybody is a terrorist in Turkey unless your are a follower of the Great Leader ?

The only things you can blame on Turks is the consequence of Turkish actions.
Erdogan gone will not remove the problem, he is a product of Turkey. So maybe seeing Turkey implode in a civil war is the best thing to consider in order to relieve the people living in the area at the moment.
For those who fled abroad, it may be re-assuring to back the Caliph in order to avoid thinking about the reasons why so many Turks already left Turkey.
What can Turkish expats find elsewhere than in Turkey ? Freedom of speech, democracy, safety, secularism ... ?
Or do one hope to bring 'Turkish values' with him : endemic corruption, police state, ethnic tensions, ...

So you will NEVER EVER admit the Caliph used WMDs against his own population just because you can't handle the fact ? Sad.
This is fresh news I admit, it took place this afternoon. Just wait 'til this becomes mainstream.

Gever'den son mesaj: Kimyasal nedeniyle ölümle pençeleşiyoruz

Obviously you like going around circles ; pls spare the reader of your vitriol and do try to stick to topic .

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The topic being Russia :

Moscow slams ‘selective’ human rights approach, urges impartial probe of Kurds’ plight in Turkey

originally posted by: theultimatebelgianjoke
I'm still waiting for you to back your allegations.

originally posted by: theultimatebelgianjoke
a reply to: 23432

The topic being Russia :

Moscow slams ‘selective’ human rights approach, urges impartial probe of Kurds’ plight in Turkey

 

originally posted by: theultimatebelgianjoke
I'm still waiting for you to back your allegations.

Topic is Russian forces leaving Syria .

It is not about Turks or what you or others think about Turks .

If you are going to keep up this diet of vitriol perhaps a Mod is better placed to remind you to stop inserting this anti-Turk views in any thread you want .

We get it ; you think the Turks are bad .

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Can you let me know what this has to do with 'Russia leaving Syria' :

originally posted by: 23432
Turkish Troops will be sitationed in Ukraine at some point in this summer .

Syria is a bygone conclusion , Ukraine is going to get warmer this summer .

If you engage in a discussion be ready to face other posters comments.

Turkish war crimes? Don’t be absurd - they’re in NATO!

Putin meeting with Russian Armed Forces service personnel

At a meeting in the Kremlin’s St George Hall, Vladimir Putin presented state decorations to service personnel and defence industry specialists who distinguished themselves in the performance of special missions in the Syrian Arab Republic.

Our bases in Syria are at Tartus and Khmeimim, the service personnel there are reliably protected from land, sea and air. All the components of the deployed air defence system, including close range Pantsir-F and long-range S-400 Triumph units will be on regular duty.

I would like to note that we have significantly restored the potential of the Syrian air defence forces as well. All the parties concerned have been made aware of this. We proceed from fundamental international norms – nobody has the right to violate the airspace of a sovereign country, Syria in this case.

We have created together with the American side an efficient mechanism to prevent air incidents, but all our partners have been warned that our air defence systems will be used against any target that we deem to be threatening Russian service personnel. I want to stress – any target.

We will of course continue to provide assistance to the lawful Syrian government. This assistance is comprehensive in nature and includes financial aid, supplies of equipment and arms, assistance in training and building Syrian armed forces, reconnaissance support and assistance to headquarters in planning operations. And finally, direct support, I mean, the use of our space force and strike and fighter aviation. The Russian forces that remain in Syria are enough to ensure this.

I would like to note here, for this audience and for the entire country: Russia’s main agenda today is that of peace. It has to do with developing the economy in complicated conditions, with maintaining and improving the wellbeing of our people. However, without ensuring our security, without creating a battle-ready, modern and efficient Army and Navy we would not resolve a single task. Moreover, the very existence of a sovereign and independent Russia would not be possible without it.

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Ok now you are just being a baby. Now you need a MOD to stick up for you? You are having a debate with some one (BelgianJoke) who does not share your mind set. He has an opinion and is backing it up with evidence, there is no vitriol that he is spewing, I seem to recall plenty of your posts against Russia, is that vitriol on your behalf? Grow up, if you can't then don't debate.

On another note, while our dear world leaders kill and maim.........we fight amongst each other instead aiming our anger at them. Well some at least vent in the right direction while others justify their actions. I am no fan of any of our leaders but I will give credit where it is due. This is why I applaud the actions of the Russians in Syria for sticking it to the ones responsible for the mess in Syria.

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Turkish Troops will be sitationed in Ukraine at some point in this summer . Syria is a bygone conclusion , Ukraine is going to get warmer this summer .

your post.

Topic is Russian forces leaving Syria .

also your post.....

Obviously you like going around circles ; pls spare the reader of your vitriol and do try to stick to topic .

annnnnd yep. another one.

are you kidding me with this?

a reply to: 23432

seriously. ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!?!

a reply to: theultimatebelgianjoke

Question -

How is the Syrian government lawful when its a dictatorship?

a reply to: Xcathdra

Assad government is officially representing Syria at the UN assembly.
Give me your definition of a dictatorship ...

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Syria is no different than Saudi Arabia which the US cooperate With. Why are you being so selective about who is allowed to have dictators?

No one dictates more than the US. Who dictates that Assad must go.

a reply to: theultimatebelgianjoke

Moscow slams ‘selective’ human rights approach, urges impartial probe of Kurds’ plight in Turkey

Russia should do something about their horrid human rights problems at home before complaining about another country...

www.hrw.org...

Guess it's okay as long as it happens in Russia.

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Assad government is officially representing Syria at the UN assembly. Give me your definition of a dictatorship ...

Because they are the only government Syria has...who else would do it?

WHat's your definition of a dictatorship, because according to the official definition he is.

: a person who rules a country with total authority and often in a cruel or brutal way

www.learnersdictionary.com...

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Turkish war crimes? Don’t be absurd - they’re in NATO!

You see here is the problem...

Just because a country is a NATO member that in no way means they stand for the whole of NATO...If they commit human rights violations it doesn't mean NATO is involved.

In fact NATO has nothing to do with SYria...those NATO countries involved are doing this on their own accord and not as part of NATO...but of course you don't understand that fact or you would quit blaming them for something one of their members do on it's own.

But hey it's just easier to blame NATO because of your misunderstanding of how they work we get it.