Technically, it is illegal to protest inside of Trump rallies

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: Blue_Jay33

A rally is not government business or an official function.

Neither is a movie.
So if I disagree with a particular movie's premise, I should be able to go into theaters showing it and disrupt the viewing of the movie, simply because I don't like it?

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: Blue_Jay33

A rally is not government business or an official function.

I guess you missed an important distinction in the law, anywhere the federal secret service are providing protection, the law is effective. So it applies to Sander/Clinton rallies the same as Trump rallies.

Don't even need special laws involving Secret Service. I read a really good allegory this weekend about it.

From Tickerforum

Donald Trump, like all candidates for political office, rents his space for rallies and such. Nobody gives away aircraft hanger and football stadium time for free. He pays for it out of campaign funds he, or some group directly affiliated with him, controls.

You do so with your home or business too. You pay rent or a mortgage. If you rent an apartment, house, hotel room, business location, or have a mortgage, you own, during the time of that rental or payment, that space.

Now let's assume you have a hotel room which you rented for the night. You decide to watch The Superbowl on television, and you rented the hotel room because you intend to drink, and will be too drunk to drive. In other words, you're a responsible adult.

You decide to allow some other people into your room to watch the game too, all of whom tell you they want to watch the game with you.

But, as soon as the game comes on, you find out that some of the people lied. They came to sing loud Christian songs, and one by one they do, standing in front of the TV so you cannot see the game and refusing to stop.

You'd throw them out.

If they refused to leave you'd really throw them out, and whatever reasonable level of physical force was necessary to eject them would not only be ok morally it would be lawful too.

That room is your property during that period of time and those other people came there under false pretense. They lied to you in order to gain admission as they had no intention in participating in the peaceful watching of the Superbowl.

The same applies at your house or apartment, of course. If you invite me over to watch a movie and I instead decide that I'm going to try to prevent you from doing so by rising from my chair and displaying a nasty slogan on my shirt along with blocking your TV, and perhaps screaming epithets at the top of my lungs, you would throw me out.

Wanna protest, do it outside on public property that has not been rented for another use.

a reply to: butcherguy

The theater is a paid venue . You can't protest inside but you can outside.
Now I think it's the same at these kinds of events. Outside fine. Inside not at all.

The constitution's first amendment ...



PS I think you could pay and protest inside the theatre but you'd have to deal with angry patrons. It just might be safer if protests were kept to open public property. Meaning outside these events.

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: butcherguy

The theater is a paid venue . You can't protest inside but you can outside.
Now I think it's the same at these kinds of events. Outside fine. Inside not at all.

The constitution's first amendment ...



PS I think you could pay and protest inside the theatre but you'd have to deal with angry patrons. It just might be safer if protests were kept to open public property. Meaning outside these events.

If Trump pays for the venue, then it should be up to him if disrupters are thrown out.

originally posted by: Rosinitiate
In Alabama, New Orleans and various other states, it's illegal to tie your alligator to a fire hydrant.

Molesting butterflies also carries a $500 fine.

geez.....they actually had to make a law for that???? people down there in the south are so stupid, they can't figure out the "why" for that law????....

It's a clash of 1st amendment rights, and let's be honest, people are going to come down on the side that they favor on this one.

There is NO right to silence the speech of someone else.

That only happens in places like Saudi Arabia,Iran, North Korea, and China.

George Soros is funding MoveOn.org and they are recruiting the young stupid that think they are standing up against someone who in their eyes represents oppression of some minority group. That is as far as these 10-year olds can understand.

George and his ilk have mischaracterized by hyperbolizing. They say racist, xenophobe, mysogynist, homophobe....you name it....and all these 10-year olds hear is "stray dog" and their cause celebre takes over and that is as far as they go. They are pitiful, imo.....used like the tools they are.

What they don't understand is who George Soros really is and what his agenda is. Hell! Most of these kids have probably never even heard of George Soros.

Soros and MoveOn use these impressionable kids hungry to have a reason for their existence. They aren't old enough yet to see the Big Picture. They just want to have something to latch onto to make their lives seem to have purpose.

I call it "The Stray Dog" syndrome.

originally posted by: jimmyx

originally posted by: Rosinitiate
In Alabama, New Orleans and various other states, it's illegal to tie your alligator to a fire hydrant.

Molesting butterflies also carries a $500 fine.

geez.....they actually had to make a law for that???? people down there in the south are so stupid, they can't figure out the "why" for that law????....

Wow ... bigoted comment much? You do know some of the greatest inventions in the US came from the south. SO its not all people who are stupid down here.

originally posted by: Swills
Then it's also illegal to protest Sanders and Clinton at their rally's. Someone better tell Trump!

Since that has yet to happen outside of big talk ... I fail to see your point.

But we can discuss it when it happens. Let's be real, it would only take about 5 people to overwhelm the average turnout of a Hillary rally.

a reply to: Blue_Jay33

Does having the secret service make 'an event' government business or official?

I don't think so.

originally posted by: FyreByrd
a reply to: Blue_Jay33

Does having the secret service make 'an event' government business or official?

I don't think so.

Maybe this helps....

Protesting Donald Trump is Now a Federal Crime As is protesting any candidate with Secret Service protection

Signed into law by President Obama, this supposed tweak of a pre-existing law effectively criminalized protest of any person under the protection of the Secret Service, a select group which includes both major parties' front-runners for the presidential nomination. During the general election, the nominees of both parties are automatically assigned Secret Service protection, but Hillary Clinton, as a former first lady, is entitled to a Secret Service detail for the rest of her life, and Donald Trump has had a detail assigned to him since last November.

Democrats need help especially when they run out of dialog.

originally posted by: butcherguy

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: Blue_Jay33

A rally is not government business or an official function.

Neither is a movie.
So if I disagree with a particular movie's premise, I should be able to go into theaters showing it and disrupt the viewing of the movie, simply because I don't like it?

Well, of course, just like if you don't like the opposing team at a sporting event and they start to win, you can then charge on to the field to prevent the game from being played in protest.

We all know that happens all the time and is perfectly allowed and expected.

a reply to: Rosinitiate

If an elephant is left tied to a parking meter, the parking fee has to be paid just as it would for a vehicle.

Florida.

a reply to: Blue_Jay33
A fundraising "rally" is niether "government business" or an "official event" so the statute is inapplicable.

I went to trump rally this past weekend. There were a lot of protestors. I can state with certainty I couldnt bring any of the females home to mom, and none of the males would have been invited to my birthday parties.

They weren't exactly clean cut all American types.

originally posted by: F4guy
a reply to: Blue_Jay33
A fundraising "rally" is niether "government business" or an "official event" so the statute is inapplicable.

According to the SS agents being assigned it has been deemed a government santioned event. They dont just give you SS agent protection fo r nothing.

Some people are having comprehension issues it seems.
SS protection for any candidate of any party once it kicks in; so does the law.
You can disagree with the law, but it's on the books.

The knee jerk reaction seems to be "why does this apply to Trump"?
Obama made the law, not Trump, but now he benefits from it.
And before this is over I think Hillary might need it too.

originally posted by: grey580
a reply to: Rosinitiate

If an elephant is left tied to a parking meter, the parking fee has to be paid just as it would for a vehicle.

Florida.

Throughout the state of Kentucky, it is illegal for a woman to appear in a bathing suit on a highway unless she is: escorted by at least two police officers; armed with a club; or lighter than 90 pounds or heavier than 200 pounds. The ordinance also specifically exempts female horses from such restrictions.

a reply to: butcherguy

He only has to declare it private. Someone is renting the venue.