Islam is closer to the teachings of Jesus than Christianity.

· Islam believes in the virgin birth, that Jesus is the Messiah, reveres the virgin Mary, and adores Jesus. They also reject Paul and lighten his heavy yoke to restore the simplicity of Christs light yoke. They know there is only one God as Jesus taught and the reason they say God doesn't have a son is because God doesn't have sex. But believing in the virgin birth makes it clear they agree about how he was concieved.

With the ridiculous false teachings of the fauxpostle Saul, and the pagan concept of the trinity, I get why God made Mohammed a prophet.

Christianity is hopelessly ignorant of what the Most High God (Allah) wants, if they would read the Qur'an they would realize that Islam is the will of God, and that they are polytheist.

a reply to: Rasalghul

What would make this better is if you showed some of the stuff you are talking about. Throw a couple links/sources to the scriptures your are referring to.

Bwhahahahaha!!!

I dont think Jesus was running around snackbarring and chopping peoples heads off in a blood lusting rage...

a reply to: RustyNailer

You're getting "Muslim" and "terrorist" confused. Compared to the amount of muslims in the world the ones cutting peoples heads off are a tiny percent.

Oh, and "Allah Akbar" just means "God is great," which I hear Christians say constantly.

Radical muslims are just taking their book literally, and the bible is just as awful as the Qur'an when it comes to violence and hatred.

a reply to: RustyNailer

Well people did so in his name plenty.

a reply to: Slanter

There is no difference between the two, unless the other stands up and says NOT IN OUR NAME. But they won't, so I won't either. Islam is a death cult...

So we have learnt and evolved to the state that we do not need to have sex to produce babies. So saying God do not have sex and do not have a son because it is impossible without sex.. We today, are we more intelligent and able than God ?
Someone who creates heaven and earth and all around suddenly is not capable to do that ?

Could we also say that Islam is most ignorant of what God is able to do ?

originally posted by: Rasalghul

Christianity is hopelessly ignorant of what the Most High God (Allah) wants /quote]

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originally posted by: Sremmos80
What would make this better is if you showed some of the stuff you are talking about. Throw a couple links/sources to the scriptures your are referring to.

Good luck with that...

I'm sure Mr. Rasalghul will be along shortly to dispel all the usual requests for evidence with a simple wave of his hand and a few more of these:

"retarded feeble brain"
"you're the epitome of ignorance"
"your a moron"
"don't know $hit"

originally posted by: Rasalghul
· Islam believes in the virgin birth, that Jesus is the Messiah, reveres the virgin Mary, and adores Jesus. They also reject Paul and lighten his heavy yoke to restore the simplicity of Christs light yoke. They know there is only one God as Jesus taught and the reason they say God doesn't have a son is because God doesn't have sex. But believing in the virgin birth makes it clear they agree about how he was concieved.

With the ridiculous false teachings of the fauxpostle Saul, and the pagan concept of the trinity, I get why God made Mohammed a prophet.

Christianity is hopelessly ignorant of what the Most High God (Allah) wants, if they would read the Qur'an they would realize that Islam is the will of God, and that they are polytheist.

Islam means submission. Why would a COMPLETE being need anyone else to submit to its will? Or does that hide a desperate NEED of controlling others because it knows when its game is known it's toast?

If you want to see what Islam is really about, check what Saudi Arabia does to the Syrian refugees - all their lives praying to Mecca, in exchange for...a wall.

Just because Paul was a false prophet do not make Muhammad a true prophet.

There is to many similarities between Hitler and Muhammad behavior and duallistic teaching for me to not see the insanity they both have brought to humanity.

Where Yeshua made sure he did not go over "eye for an eye"/"The mirror", Muhammad and Hitler in the end missed the mark.

Rumi, Nanak, Zoroaster and Yeshua knew what they where talking about and compered to them Muhammad is predatory and small minded. A soul without self control.

And the curse of duality hate will always follow Muhammad and his followers until he is totally disconnected from the historic person and his words are rewritten to follow the golden rule in all the verses where he logically miss the mark. The curse that will always bring war and genocide and counter war and genocide.

Judaism also suffer from the same curse, but some of them have used secular humanistic thinking to temper some of the problem. Except the Zionist of course that still suffer from the full curse that will bring war not peace to all humankind.

originally posted by: Slanter

Oh, and "Allah Akbar" just means "God is great," which I hear Christians say constantly.

Not when they are squeezing triggers, letting loose rockets and otherwise ending life with frantic joy. Mostly, it seems in killing their fellow Muslim.

To topic. I don't think Christianity is "hopelessly ignorant of what Allah wants", it's just Christians don't care. Allah is nothing to a Christian. He's certainly nothing to me.

a reply to: RustyNailer

Here Is a link from a christian website citing examples of muslims rejecting extremism, pretty much addressing the statements you are making. What about all the muslims that are fleeing their homes because of the violence and hate extremism has brought to their homes?

I'm not sure what a "death cult" is, but like I said, the bible says you should do some pretty awful stuff, Christians have just realized that some of the stuff in the bible is awful so they just kinda skip over those parts. Education is usually a large factor in this. If your world view is dictated by one book your your viewpoint will be skewed.

a reply to: yosako

God/Allah wants us to be good people, do good things. I'll follow God on thatvanyday.

Your confused about Islam it is a peaceful religion. Not all Muslims are peaceful and the same is true with Christians.

War has nothing to do with Islam, it's about power and territory. I can see you don't know much about Islam. You wouldn't have made such an ignorant comment.

Every group has bad apples, lets not confuse them with the good.

Most Muslims are awesome people.

originally posted by: paraphi

originally posted by: Slanter

Oh, and "Allah Akbar" just means "God is great," which I hear Christians say constantly.

Not when they are squeezing triggers, letting loose rockets and otherwise ending life with frantic joy. Mostly, it seems in killing their fellow Muslim.

To topic. I don't think Christianity is "hopelessly ignorant of what Allah wants", it's just Christians don't care. Allah is nothing to a Christian. He's certainly nothing to me.

Allah is the Most High God.

We have done more bombing than they ever will. WE invaded Iraq under a false pretense, and the Jews stole Palestine. No one has clean hands in this new war.

a reply to: Rasalghul

Muhammad was all into war and territory also all for power. What happened to people during the time of Muhammad when they disagreed with Muhammad ?
Is Muhammad the ultimate role model of every muslims ?

There are peaceful muslims but there are also those who sees how Muhammad treated nonbelievers as only way

Timeline of Muhammad's Life (A.D)

570 - Born in Mecca
576 - Orphaned upon death of mother
595 - Marries Kadijah - older, wealthy widow
610 - Reports first revelations at age of 40
619 - Protector uncle dies
622 - Emigrates from Mecca to Medina (the Hijra)
623 - Orders raids on Meccan caravans
624 - Battle of Badr (victory)
624 - Evicts Qaynuqa Jews from Medina
624 - Orders assassination of Abu Afak
624 - Orders assassination of Asma bint Marwan
624 - Orders the assassination of Ka'b al-Ashraf
625 - Battle of Uhud (defeat)
625 - Evicts Nadir Jews
627 - Battle of the Trench (victory)
627 - Massacre of the Qurayza Jews
628 - Signing of the Treaty of Hudaibiya with Mecca
628 - Destruction and subjugation of the Khaybar Jews
629 - Orders first raid into Christian lands at Muta (defeat)
630 - Conquers Mecca by surprise (along with other tribes)
631 - Leads second raid into Christian territory at Tabuk (no battle)
632 - Dies

He seemed rather peaceful guy .. didn´t he ?

originally posted by: Rasalghul

God/Allah wants us to be good people, do good things. I'll follow God on thatvanyday.

Allah, if you follow the Koran and Sharia, just wants to control. He wants women and girls to be secondary. He wants medieval punishments for crimes that do not fit with the world we live in.

When I say "He", who knows what Allah wants. However, this is what his followers want. If they didn't, then women would not be treated so badly in Muslim countries.

a reply to: paraphi

Well Allah certainly matters to Arabic christians, because that's what they call the Christian god too, because "Allah" is just arabic for "God."

Just like the japanese christians refer to god as "Kami-sama" and the spaniards/mexicans call him "Dios."

a reply to: Rasalghul

It also DENIES that christ was crucified, that the Resurrection was real and claim's that he Killed a child whom interrupted him whilest he was writing in the sand with his finger and all these claim's were made 650 years after christ by a former salesman whom had been outcast from mecca by the meccan elders.

As a young man he worked in what today would be called an Import Export business as what we would call a salesman or trade negotiator, in other word's a merchant and his boss was a Widow, he later married her when she was old and he was only a young man.

The Alleged prophet Muhammad also made the infamous Satanic Verses during several rant's which Salman rushdie was put under Fatwa for writing a book about, He was in his mid 50's when he told a close follower that it was Allah's will that he marry his small daughter Aisha whom was just six, She went bald from the trauma on the wedding night but the Saura's talk about her beauty constantly as well as making reference to her bringing her doll's with her, he also practiced Thighing which is non penetrative sex holding the child's legs together and using her thigh's because under his own law's he could not lie with her again until her hair grew back as it meant she was unclean.
He told his followers the Persian woman would lie on there backs and let them RAPE them.]
He snuck, crawling by night and hiding under there robes and sand by day with hundreds of his followers into the camp of the Kuffiri tribe, a powerful but peaceful tribe whose leader was called Um Kirfa, she was the young widow of the former chief of the Kuffiri and mother the of his only child a young daughter, Um Kirfa had over 50 sword's hung in her tent as a symbol of allegiance from other tribal leaders for she was known as a peacemaker and many of them had gone to her to seek her guidance in resolving dispute's and this made her a potentially even more powerful leader whom could have rallied hundreds of thousands of Arab warriors, christian, jewish and pagan to her banner.

Muhammad looked upon her as a threat therefore so over the several day's the crept ever deeper into her camp until at last with a distraction to lure her guards away they launched a surprise attack, she was raped by Muhammad's men as he sat eating her food in her tent, then they tied her between cammal's and tore her broken body apart before giving him her head as a trophy, he then GAVE her young daughter to his uncle as a slave or plaything.

Muhammad never heard the voice of God but rather he claimed to have heard the voice of the Angel Gabriel, also if it did not come from God then he is not and can not be a Prophet.

When he finally took Mecca his strength unchallenged having disposed of those that could have stopped him including the young woman Um Kirfa he then took personal revenge upon two of his old rival's whose complaint's to the elders may have been why he had been exiled in the first place.

When he finally reached the Kabba a place he must have prayed many time's as a young PAGAN man he declaired the soulless Idol's were the high Flying Crane's and could intercede carrying his followers prayer's to heaven but later recanted as this had thrown his own followers into confusion.

He said that the faithful should strike the non believers on the neck (Behead them).

NO NOTHING LIKE CHRISTIANITY AT ALL.

We in the west may be a poor example of Christianity but many whom were a far better example have been murdered in recent years by Islamic extremists (now let's look at that what is an Islamic Extremist, well he is the Islamic version of a methodist, he tried to put into actual practice what his religion preaches so by the word of Christ YOU SHALL KNOW THEM BY THERE FRUIT) but also right through the history of the beligerant and conquering Islamic expansion Christian's and Jew's were persecuted (jew's were persecuted by everyone though as is the fate of a homeless people) and though Muhammad later spoke of the christians and Jew's as People of the Book he actually led his men on the Slaughter, conquest and enslavement of Christian and Jewish tribes in Arabia and many of his statement's are totally contradictory, unlike the bible which cover's many time periods and many prophets and chroniclers this was in one man's lifetime so this Self Contradiction about Christian's and Jew's is even more glaring.

Lastly he was a manipulative and extremely cunning, clever man whom had in his time as a merchant learned the tradition's, belief's and languages of many different people's whom had come via Mecca an important perhaps the most important city on the frankincense trade route and though the passages of the Koran were written by those whom knew him rather than himself they have also not remained unchanged with many milder version's or interpretations of his word's arising after his death as more tollerant and kinder hearted scholars tried to make sense of them.

Not all however in the Islamic world was totally evil, indeed the most progressive and tollerant culture of the 11th, 12th, 13th and eary 14th century's was non other than Iberian Spain which had been conquered by North African islamic invaders 711 ad a mere 79 years after muhammad had died in 632 ad, the Islamic religion had spread like wildfire once the Arab tribes had been united over the dying emperse of the Roman world's north african colony's and reached as far west as spain, it never really gained a strong presence in souther africa until much later though as the natural barrier of the Sahara proved too formidable and the arabs saw the black africans as slave's anyway but Islamic city's did spring up down the east coast of Africa replacing older Pagan city's and society's growing wealthy on the trade between india and africa of Gem's, Gold and Spices.

Admittedly during this period Christianity was not adhered too by the mainly pagan masses of Europe whom were still being converted to christianity as late as the 8th and 9th century's (though by this time most of there rulers were christian), this was known as the dark ages in Europe but during this time the EASTERN roman Empire, a decadant empire with much traditional roman style corruption in many but not all of it's rulers and elite class still thrived though the Islamic nation constantly attacked it and it had to contend with the barbarians to it's west and north, over the ensuing century's it was destined to shrink until finally following an act of blackmail the Venetian merchants' whom coveted the trade which passed through Constantinople persuaded the leaders of the last crusade (originally intended to drive the Muhammadans from the holy land but hijacked by the Robber barrons also known as the Normans long before the Venetians had there go) to instead of trying to once again retake Jerusalem to instead attack the tired and already war weary city of Constantinople which was by then ruling over a vastly diminished and dying empire, they DID and sacked the city killing there fellow undefenced civilian christians in the tens of thousand's, the city never recovered and with it's treasury looted, most of it's holy relic's carted off to be used as pilgrim attraction in the new cathedrals these crusaders built back in there own country's it was unable to resist when the Celjik turk's came and surrounded the city, despite a valient last stand it past away.

originally posted by: Slanter
a reply to: RustyNailer

You're getting "Muslim" and "terrorist" confused. Compared to the amount of muslims in the world the ones cutting peoples heads off are a tiny percent.

Oh, and "Allah Akbar" just means "God is great," which I hear Christians say constantly.

Radical muslims are just taking their book literally, and the bible is just as awful as the Qur'an when it comes to violence and hatred.

But that kinda proves that Muhammad is not a persons example you should follow just like Paul and the prophets in the old testament that also preached duality hate.

That most Muslim are more moral than Muhammad I see as them not being totally unaware to become brainwashed with his hate and trying to clean up what he taught. Putting him in a better light than he deserves.

The genocides Islam have created in history are staggering.
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Will Muslim ever learn to coexist with other cultures?

originally posted by: Rasalghul
Your confused about Islam it is a peaceful religion.

Spelling correction: Islam is a pieceful religion...