Zoroaster, the forgotten Prophet.

· The Greeks called him Zoroaster, to the Persians he was Spitama Zarathustra, Prophet of Ohramazd or Ahura Mazda, Wise God of the ancient Persians. Plato claims he lived 6000 years before him, most place his birth date later though.

Legend has it that Abraham was his mentor before arriving at Ur. Zoroaster was a pioneer in organizing agriculture, hygiene, morality and duality. His doctrine is easily summed up:

Good thoughts, good words, good deeds.

Zoroastrianism developed in opposition to the Hindu daevas, which would become Demons in Zoroastrianism. They had/have a system of angelology and demonology that influenced Judaism, and later, Christianity. Judgement day, heaven and hell and Gods Word becoming flesh are all concepts of Zoroastrianism that would show up in Christianity. And the promotion of the satan to Satan, enemy of God and not just enemy of man owes to Angra Mainyu, the fiend, as the Zend Avesta puts it. He was the source of all evil by his witchcraft, the destroying spirit is Angra Mainyu.

The rise of Islam would convert Persia from their faith except for those who would pay a tax or flee, Ironically to India, home of the Hindus who welcomed them despite the ancient semi-rivalry between the two.

They live on today as the Parsees of India and Iran as well as the US and Australia. They are all but unknown to the rest of the world, so I dedicate this thread to them and to Spitama Zarathustra/Zoroaster.

Interesting fact: Magi is what Zoroastrian priests were called, the "3" wise men or Magi of gospel fame were Zoroastrian. Christianity is a mix of Jewish, Greek, Persian and pagan concepts.

I'm not writing a book in my intro, so if you have any questions just ask, I will respond.

Good thoughts, good words, good deeds.

He wasn't forgotten, he never existed and the books he made up were all storys to manipulate people and control their miserable lonely lives
A Jewish rabbi told me Zorastiasts was actually a real cow, that's why Hindus and some other Indians let cows do what they want

So many pagan beliefs about this cow man, so much corrupted teaching

Their God was called Mazda, that's why Mazda makes such good cars, they are devine, if you sit in a Mazda it's like sitting in a cloud, clouds are linked to heaven

See the link

Anyone?

a reply to: Rasalghul

Thank you for posting this, Zoroastrianism was my starting point; the first doctrine I studied before delving deeper into the metaphysical aspects of many religions.

Hmm, some of the claims in this thread so far are rather 'unique'

Here is an excellent documentary on zoroastrianism in Iran of all places. It explains the religion well.

A lot of Christians would be unaware that the three wise men who followed the star of Bethlehem to Jesus' manger to bestow gifts upon him were Maggi - zoroastrian priests for instance.

originally posted by: markosity1973
Hmm, some of the claims in this thread so far are rather 'unique'

Here is an excellent documentary on zoroastrianism in Iran of all places. It explains the religion well.

A lot of Christians would be unaware that the three wise men who followed the star of Bethlehem to Jesus' manger to bestow gifts upon him were Maggi - zoroastrian priests for instance.

Which claims are unique?

Iran IS Persia, the motherland of Zoroastrianism.

And I already mentioned the Magi, which you spelled wrong, starting to think you didn't read the whole thread.

Would I be posting a thread about Zoroaster if I didn't already know about it? I have their holy books. I read them. I studied the religion, as I admire it. Someone else might like it though so thanks for the link.

a reply to: Rasalghul

None of yours - I'm referring to the cow and the car

a reply to: Rasalghul

what if that Zoroaster guy had the affliction where parts of his skin turn white and the others are brown "Vitiligo"

people back in the day would probably call them a cow person. Unless he is given cloven feet and a ring through his nose.

a reply to: markosity1973

Oh, yeah. I get a lot of fundaMENTAList christian haters on my posts. It comes with the truth telling lifestyle. Zarathustra was a great prophet, still acknowledged as such by Islam even. Pretty much just christians that hate on him because they owe most of their NT concepts to him and that scares them.

a reply to: threeeyesopen

My pleasure, keep seeking!

Humata, Hukhta, Huvarshta, which mean: Good Thoughts, Good Words, Good Deeds.
There is only one path and that is the path of Truth.
Do the right thing because it is the right thing to do, and then all beneficial rewards will come to you also.

I might not agree with the first one since there are limits to Good Thoughts, Good Words, Good Deeds since you can be manipulated to enslave yourself to insane people if you are to nice.

"Less well known is the paradox of tolerance: Unlimited tolerance must lead to the disappearance of tolerance. If we extend unlimited tolerance even to those who are intolerant, if we are not prepared to defend a tolerant society against the onslaught of the intolerant, then the tolerant will be destroyed, and tolerance with them."

The other 2 ideas are spot on from my point of view. Speaks like a blessed one so he probably was a blessed one.

originally posted by: Raggedyman
He wasn't forgotten, he never existed and the books he made up were all storys to manipulate people and control their miserable lonely lives
A Jewish rabbi told me Zorastiasts was actually a real cow, that's why Hindus and some other Indians let cows do what they want

So many pagan beliefs about this cow man, so much corrupted teaching

Their God was called Mazda, that's why Mazda makes such good cars, they are devine, if you sit in a Mazda it's like sitting in a cloud, clouds are linked to heaven

See the link

Anyone?

That was quite a show of ignorance and misspellings. Qabbalah, Jewish mysticism, was learned from the Magi.

And I don't believe you. You don't know what you are talking about. What rabbi wwould waste his time talking to you?

originally posted by: Raggedyman
He wasn't forgotten, he never existed and the books he made up were all storys to manipulate people and control their miserable lonely lives...
Anyone?

I think you're thinking of Christianity.

Also, you say he never existed yet still you say he was an author. One sentence is all it takes for you to contradict yourself. Amazing.

The off topic trolling on this thread is worse than normal. Sorry Rasaighul that you do not get more interesting discussion on Zoroaster.

a reply to: LittleByLittle
Not your fault, I only posted it hours ago, it will catch on I hope. If not I just made a thread on Miriam the O.T. prophetess too.

originally posted by: Raggedyman
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Their God was called Mazda, that's why Mazda makes such good cars, they are devine, if you sit in a Mazda it's like sitting in a cloud, clouds are linked to heaven

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Mazdas are garbage. Maybe you're referring to what it would actually be like sitting in a cloud, rather than the fantastical imagery version. Cold, wet, rusting...

a reply to: dogstar23

Hey anubis, stop crapping on my Zoroaster thread please. The man was a great prophet if you don't respect religion at least have some decency.

Nietzsche didn't forget

Neither did Don Diego, the movie star.

Oh and the cow thing is right on: the ruling class of India is remembered today as originating from Persia.
Good words.

Not only cows and mazdaz, Zorastiasts is a plagiarist who stole many religious beliefs of his time and added it to his own teachings
A veritable early scientologist

Just go search cult of Zorastiasts

Pretty sure he was the reason tom hanks turned into a little boy in the movie Big
We can thank him for that


Ok maybe a different zoro in the movie big, but the original Zorastiasts was a total plagiarist, he stole from many religions and cults in his day

Hey who's Mary Boyce, didn't she make some stuff up on Zorastiasts some 8000 years after he died

Outside mazda and clouds, the movie big, these are facts and according to my study Zorastiasts plagiarized multiple religions of the day
Yet Ras wants us to believe he inspired every religion on earth though he came after just about every religion on earth was established
The Muslims thought Zorastiasts was so bad they swapped it to worshiping a moon god

As for the claim he lived 8000 years ago, seems like he lived only just over a couple of thousand years and was to late for other religions to borrow from him
But hey lets go find the evidence for when he existed, what we can't?

I think someone drank the cool aid