An Advocate for Rape? or just exercising his right to Free Speech ? You decide

a reply to: BatheInTheFountain

Return of Kings is what he called his events.
Roosh V

is that significant ?

originally posted by: cosmickat
a reply to: BatheInTheFountain

Return of Kings is what he called his events.
Roosh V

is that significant ?

I thought it was some other guys.

Not important.

a reply to: amazing

Not sure about that, but they are anti-feminist, so possible I guess.

a reply to: TrueBrit

You cannot offer reparation for a rape!

The sort of damage done to rape victims is not something you can correct with money, or even enough therapy to fix that Trump fellow. We are talking about the total collapse of a persons ability to accept the presence of other individuals in their personal space, sometimes for years at a time, denying them the ability to even receive a simple hug, something which in any other situation would be good for a person, taking on terrifying post traumatic stress related dimensions.

You either have no idea about the psychology involved, or are deliberately skirting the issue because you understand that to engage with the full, horrific reality of what rape is, and what it does to people, would invalidate your position entirely. There is no way you could make such an outrageous statement otherwise...reparations...laughable.

Are you claiming that:

1. There is no difference in the degree of the severity of a rape (violent rapes vs. having sex with someone who was unconscious at a party).

2. That all victims will react the same to all varying degrees.

And

3. That restitution to a victim to restore them shouldn't be our primary concern??

I was involved in a LOT of the community for years. I studied and hung with guys that were really into this in Hollywood, Santa Monica, etc.

There's no way they would advocate this. Even the dirtiest of the dirtbags. The most aggressive Pick Up guys couldn't condone this. It's just not 'pick up'. It's the opposite.

I don't understand how this guy even has followers. "The Game" has taken a bad turn if this is becomes acceptable.

a reply to: BatheInTheFountain

His forum seems to be on lock down atm
I did browse it yesterday before I started this thread, and some of the stuff I read was not about how to pick up women. But then to be honest I didn't search for those threads.
There were one or two that stuck out in my mind, one titled Is She Lying ? was mainly about if a woman has drunk alcohol before you have sex with her then basically she cannot claim afterwards that she had been raped, even if she was. It was like a cheat sheet for getting away with it.

You mentioned " the game " and that rung a bell, definitely seen that being mentioned quite a few times when i was reading his forum.

Following the widespread condemnation he has received, maybe he will be busy " cleaning up his game "

a reply to: CharlestonChew

Are you saying that a rape is ever nonviolent?

a reply to: TrueBrit

Are you saying that a rape is ever nonviolent?

Yes.

There are many examples where violence wouldn't be required. It wouldn't take much physical effort to have sex with a person who is unconscious. Still rape, though.

originally posted by: CharlestonChew
a reply to: TrueBrit

Are you saying that a rape is ever nonviolent?

Yes.

There are many examples where violence wouldn't be required. It wouldn't take much physical effort to have sex with a person who is unconscious. Still rape, though.

Wrong. Rape, in and as of itself, is violence. Whether there are bruises or not.

myth of non violent rape

a reply to: cosmickat


Nah, he's a pariah till the end to the real "PUA"s. He won't get far.

About "The Game" is was basically a term coined by a guy named Neil Strauss, they say, but we called it 'game' when I was a kid, so that's not accurate.

He wrote a book called "The Game" which is thought of by many as the first Bible of Pick Up or "Venusian Arts"

I actually hate the term "Pick Up Artist" or PUA...it's been lame since the beginning.

a reply to: cosmickat

Wrong. Rape, in and as of itself, is violence. Whether there are bruises or not.

I can call yelling violence, that doesn't make it true.

originally posted by: CharlestonChew
a reply to: cosmickat

Wrong. Rape, in and as of itself, is violence. Whether there are bruises or not.

I can call yelling violence, that doesn't make it true.

Why would you ? it has no bearing whatsoever on this topic... but go ahead if it makes you feel validated.
I only yell when I get emotional.

a reply to: cosmickat

Why would you?

To illustrate the absurdity of calling a thing something it isn't.

it has no bearing whatsoever on this topic...

If I've posted something off-topic, may the mods strike me down...

but go ahead if it makes you feel validated.

I have no emotional investment in our debate, my only incentive for participation is in discovering the truth.

I only yell when I get emotional.

I could just imagine you yelling at me through your monitor : )

originally posted by: CharlestonChew
a reply to: TrueBrit

Are you saying that a rape is ever nonviolent?

Yes.

There are many examples where violence wouldn't be required. It wouldn't take much physical effort to have sex with a person who is unconscious. Still rape, though.

Are you Bill Cosby?

originally posted by: CharlestonChew
a reply to: cosmickat

Why would you?

To illustrate the absurdity of calling a thing something it isn't.

but you already did that..when you said that non violent rape is a thing, it isn't.

it has no bearing whatsoever on this topic...

If I've posted something off-topic, may the mods strike me down...

they don't havequitethat power, I don't think

but go ahead if it makes you feel validated.

I have no emotional investment in our debate, my only incentive for participation is in discovering the truth.

I tried to give you that, you knocked it back

I only yell when I get emotional.

I could just imagine you yelling at me through your monitor : )

It must be vivid, your imaginings

originally posted by: cosmickat
a reply to: amazing

Not sure about that, but they are anti-feminist, so possible I guess.

I'm pretty sure it was them. It's one of those Men's rights websites. Kind of like "A voice for men." Another one that's not quite as radical but full of whiny men who think they are victims for some reason. LOL

a reply to: mamabeth

ha lorena bobbed it once or was it twice?

a reply to: amazing

looks like you remember it right.
their planned boycott failed to have much impact though according to this article
link

and the Men's Rights Activist site didn't want to be associated with RooshV and his fans and vice versa.....figures

Note: The original post described Return of Kings as a “Men’s Rights Activist” website. It turns out the site distances itself from that movement, and that movement distances itself from that site.

originally posted by: angeldoll

originally posted by: CharlestonChew
a reply to: TrueBrit

Are you saying that a rape is ever nonviolent?

Yes.

There are many examples where violence wouldn't be required. It wouldn't take much physical effort to have sex with a person who is unconscious. Still rape, though.

Are you Bill Cosby?

a reply to: angeldoll

Are you Bill Cosby?

Are you Irma Grese?

Seriously, I can't believe that the mods, on a website with a slogan like "Deny Ignorance," tolerate people using logical fallacies.

They should issues warnings for such things.